Can Cash Be "Retrieved"

[jw5]

I'll try to explain what I'm asking.
Let's say that A is about to make an illegal payment in cash to B. A bribe perhaps. But A decides to come clean with the authorities and the authorities manage to "mark" the cash.

First scenario: For some reason or other, B decides not to use the cash or perhaps he knows that it's marked and decides not to use it. Is the authorities able to return the cash to B or can he manage to "retrieve" the cash he paid out, just because it's marked? Or is the cash gone forever, even if it is never used or in circulation?

Second scenario: B uses the cash to buy lots of different things. The sellers accept the marked cash, but only realize that the bills are marked when the authorities contact them. Are these transactions valid? Do the sellers get to keep the cash or do they need to return the cash? Once again, does B get to "retrieve" the cash or is it gone forever?

Please advise or provide your comments.

 

[Sperminator]

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Second scenario: B uses the cash to buy lots of different things. The sellers accept the marked cash, but only realize that the bills are marked when the authorities contact them. Are these transactions valid? Do the sellers get to keep the cash or do they need to return the cash? Once again, does B get to "retrieve" the cash or is it gone forever?

Please advise or provide your comments.

What I can think of is that B could take the CASH, exchange the CASH into CHIPS in the CASINO.

Then, do NOT use the CHIPS for GAMBLING.

Next wait for 24 hours.

Then, go to counter and exchange the CHIPS back for CASH.

Wallah, the money is cleaned!

 

[jw5]

What I can think of is that B could take the CASH, exchange the CASH into CHIPS in the CASINO.

Then, do NOT use the CHIPS for GAMBLING.

Next wait for 24 hours.

Then, go to counter and exchange the CHIPS back for CASH.

Wallah, the money is cleaned!

Perhaps that could work for B, but I'm looking at this from the perspective of A and the innocent sellers, not so much from B's perspective.
My question is whether A can get his money back (regardless what B does with the money) and whether the innocent sellers (in your example would be the casino) would have to suffer any losses if A gets his money back, given that the cash has been marked by the authorities.

 

[Ramseth]

If you pay a bribe, then regret and go confessing to the authority, there's no way you can be reimbursed, even if the money was recovered. You'd be lucky if confession and remorse are considered as migitating factors, and you're not fined any further or jailed.

 

[jw5]

If you pay a bribe, then regret and go confessing to the authority, there's no way you can be reimbursed, even if the money was recovered. You'd be lucky if confession and remorse are considered as migitating factors, and you're not fined any further or jailed.

In this hypothetical case, A did not pay and confess.
He decided to collude with the authorities before he paid the bribe.

 

[Ramseth]

In this hypothetical case, A did not pay and confess.
He decided to collude with the authorities before he paid the bribe.

I see. Then, the terms and conditions must be agreed upon first like any plea bargaining or turncoating. However, usually in such a scenario, the turncoat should insist that the authority come up with the money and recover it themselves, in exchange for being informant, witness and collaborator in the entrapment.

 

[YellowRibbon]

I know what you mean....

You want to trap Ah Long runners ?

 

[scroobal]

Any transactions arising from money wrongfully gained if contested will go towards a disposal inquiry conducted by magistrate. Typically parties will come to a compromise prior to the disposal inquiry. Typically the sellers will make a claim. Whatever is bought with the money is liable for seizure.

Money than cannot be found, traced or not recovered by the authorities even if its marked notes is lost cause.

Ask the Police to provide the marked notes.

I'll try to explain what I'm asking.
Let's say that A is about to make an illegal payment in cash to B. A bribe perhaps.

 

[kingrant]

On top of all that, A can still be charged with attempted bribery.

Any transactions arising from money wrongfully gained if contested will go towards a disposal inquiry conducted by magistrate. Typically parties will come to a compromise prior to the disposal inquiry. Typically the sellers will make a claim. Whatever is bought with the money is liable for seizure.

Money than cannot be found, traced or not recovered by the authorities even if its marked notes is lost cause.

Ask the Police to provide the marked notes.

 

[fat bear]

Cash is cash. No matter how you mark it is still cash, unless you use the ink powder when touch or expose to air turn color and cannot be wash off one.

If you want to work with authorities they will provided the money. Any money you take out will not return to you as they need to used it as prove in court and then when charge finished it will keep in a store as prove for the crime until the sentence serve finished. Then after some year then you can file report to get it back.

If you want to trap Ah Long work with the police. Better when election is near if you find police wrk too slow ask your MP to speed them up.

 

[jw5]

Cash is cash. No matter how you mark it is still cash, unless you use the ink powder when touch or expose to air turn color and cannot be wash off one.

If you want to work with authorities they will provided the money. Any money you take out will not return to you as they need to used it as prove in court and then when charge finished it will keep in a store as prove for the crime until the sentence serve finished. Then after some year then you can file report to get it back.

If you want to trap Ah Long work with the police. Better when election is near if you find police wrk too slow ask your MP to speed them up.

Can the authorities provide fake bills?
I'm not sure if the authorities will come up with real marked bills. What if B after getting the money never spends it? Can the authorities arrange for those bills to be "cancelled" or something of that nature?

 

[Cestbon]

Why want to sabo Ah Long. Ah long did nothing wrong and never force anyone take loan/borrow money from them.
Blame the borrower/take loan person. Take money don't want to repay back. If I where police I will not care about ah long case. They are the real victim.