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Blood in office came mostly from youth: Forensic scientist

makapaaa

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NTU STUDENT'S DEATH FALL
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Ms Lim based her findings on photos, two visits to the NTU campus, and information from police. -- ST FILE PHOTO
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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->PHOTOGRAPHS - 120 in all - were used to paint a likely scenario of events that transpired between Nanyang Technological University (NTU) student David Hartanto Widjaja and Associate Professor Chan Kap Luk on March 2.
On that day, Mr Widjaja was found dead after falling four storeys from a link bridge on campus. Minutes before, he was seen running from the office of Prof Chan, his final-year project supervisor, after allegedly being in a knife struggle with him.
On the fifth day of the coroner's inquiry into Mr Widjaja's death, forensic scientist Lim Chin Chin told the court that her findings were based on the photographs, two visits to the campus in April, and information given by the police.
Ms Lim, from the Forensic Chemistry and Physics Laboratory of the Health Sciences Authority, took the witness stand yesterday, along with Dr Christopher Syn, a senior forensic scientist who conducted a DNA examination of blood taken at the scene.
She said almost all the bloodstains left behind in Prof Chan's office - including some found on the wall above a computer monitor - belonged to Mr Widjaja. Prof Chan had been seated near the computer when the alleged attack began.
These stains indicate the swing of an arm downwards from somewhere above the monitor where blood was either cast off from a wound or from a bloodstained object, she said.
Dr Syn told the court on Monday that only Mr Widjaja's blood was found on the knife handle. He added that the blade, which broke off during the struggle, had a mixture of Mr Widjaja and Prof Chan's blood.
Ms Lim said Prof Chan's blood was detected only on the floor near a computer table.
Blood from a partial palm print on some documents near the office door was also found to be Mr Widjaja's.
Outside the room, blood trailed in two different directions. One was caused by Prof Chan while the other, more severe, was from Mr Widjaja.
The soles of Mr Widjaja's feet were soaked in blood although he did not leave any footprints along the trail.
Ms Lim said he was likely to have 'inked his feet in blood' that dripped from a deep cut on his right wrist, before sitting on the ledge of the glass roof. The hearing continues on June 17.
 

theblackhole

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this forensic detective is doing an excellent job - repainting the whole scenario and re-creating the scene of the "assualt" - scary man!

dead men do speak...dead men do leave evidences...dead men do tell a story to the living....scary man!
 

xebay11

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Stupid Indonesian parents simply cannot accept that their son is a big loser and failure in life.
 

Lee Hsien Tau

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this forensic detective is doing an excellent job - repainting the whole scenario and re-creating the scene of the "assualt" - scary man!

dead men do speak...dead men do leave evidences...dead men do tell a story to the living....scary man!

>>>>Ms Lim based her findings on photos, two visits to the NTU campus, and information from police.<<<<



Crime scene forensic investigation based on photos? Visit to crime scene after it is cleaned up? Based on goon reports?



Sure or not?
 

xebay11

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Based on photos is the best way to study any crime scene closely, visiting the actual crime scene and basing the study on memory is touch and go.
 

Ah Guan

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>>>>Ms Lim based her findings on photos, two visits to the NTU campus, and information from police.<<<<



Crime scene forensic investigation based on photos? Visit to crime scene after it is cleaned up? Based on goon reports?



Sure or not?

They should also get a medium and conduct a seance
 

SotongMee

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The grieving Indon family will be calling in CSI:Batam to do justice for the trouble piece of FTrash loser.

The professor looks like a piece of FTrash also.

Both should die to save our Singapore tax paying public some monies

Stupid Indonesian parents simply cannot accept that their son is a big loser and failure in life.
 

annexa

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makapaaa;244039Dr Syn told the court on Monday that only Mr Widjaja's blood was found on the knife handle.[/QUOTE said:
This means, the person holding the handle is the Professor. The person who got stabbed, not holding the handle, will have his blood flow or splurt onto the handle. The person stabbing will not bleed.

After the blade broke, both parties' blood are on the blade. Means, student managed to get the blade and stab back.
 

myo539

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this forensic detective is doing an excellent job - repainting the whole scenario and re-creating the scene of the "assualt" - scary man!

dead men do speak...dead men do leave evidences...dead men do tell a story to the living....scary man!

I thought teaching is one of the safest jobs in Singapore. Now it doesn't seem the case with more students - even in secondary schools - assaulting and abusing other students and even teachers. We have even female gangs in school.

I say - bring back the cane! Parents are either too busy earning a living paying for the high cost of living, or sparing the rod on their kids. Teachers cannot substitute for parents.

Bring back the cane - otherwise throw away the rotan!
 

Lee Hsien Tau

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Based on photos is the best way to study any crime scene closely, visiting the actual crime scene and basing the study on memory is touch and go.

Yah but CSI WKS should be at the crime scene prior to clean-up to reconstruct what happened, not based on goon report which, besides the poor english, bias, etc is inaccurate account.
 

takcheksian

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Yah but CSI WKS should be at the crime scene prior to clean-up to reconstruct what happened, not based on goon report which, besides the poor english, bias, etc is inaccurate account.

WKS is compared to CSI?

Sorry man, more like Keystone Kops or Police Academy.

or the Police of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
 

singveld

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no family, no friends, lots of university works and pressure.

some just collapse under stress.

we cannot help them. we cannot even help ourselves.
 
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