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Black Hawks Down! Obama will be fucked again in Somalia!

Hitler_Bush

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Clinton was fucked in Somalia and Bush dare no even go after Black Hawks were Downed. Obama will get his own round from his own African Brothers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/2009080...jY29yZGlvbl9vcGluaW9uBHNsawNzb21hbGlhaXNvYmE-
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Somalia is Obama's new 'Afghanistan'
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The Christian Science Monitor

By the Monitor's Editorial Board The Monitor's Editorial Board – Thu Aug 6, 5:00 am ET

The Horn of Africa is a hotbed of pirates, Islamic radicals, warlords, refugees, and, lately, foreign armies trying to influence this killing field. The epicenter is Somalia, a Muslim land largely in chaos since 1991 and – this is the big worry – a possible nesting ground for Al Qaeda or its allies.

President Obama has taken on this trouble spot directly, as he has Afghanistan. He's beefing up US military aid and training for Somalia's besieged government, which can barely hold onto the capital, Mogadishu. And on Thursday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton held a high-profile meeting with the country's elected president, Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed.

Mrs. Clinton boldly declared that Al Shabaab, the Islamic militants that are close to toppling Mr. Sharif, sees "Somalia as a future haven for global terrorism." A victory for them – much like the 1996 takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban – might also destabilize nearby countries, such as Kenya. She noted the group's attempt to recruit followers abroad and its alleged plot for an attack in Australia.

Such Bush-like talk and Mr. Obama's expansion of military aid sets down a marker for the US president to rid Somalia of the threat from Al Shabaab and its fellow foreign fighters.

The US, however, is unlikely to send its own troops to a country in which the American military infamously retreated after the 1993 "Black Hawk Down" incident in which two US helicopters were downed, resulting in the killing of 18 US soldiers. Instead, the new US aid is being coursed through other African nations. And an African force of nearly 5,000 is being beefed up in Mogadishu.

President Bush's major response to the threat of Al Shabaab was to kill its leader with an aerial bomb. But that only hardened the insurgency.

Will Obama's strategy work any better? Or will he be seen as "soft on terrorism" and be charged with "losing Somalia"?

Last year, Somalia had the highest number of terrorism-related killings after Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. In those other countries, attempts have been made – with limited success – to negotiate with radical Islamists, such as the Taliban, in hopes of attracting moderates over to the government side. Somalia's president himself was persuaded to leave the Islamic militants and become an elected leader.

At some point, Obama might find an opening to negotiate with Al Shabaab, or at least, some in the lower ranks. He has assigned high-profile diplomats to talk to foes in the Middle East and Central Asia. Where is the special envoy for Somalia?

With his mix of nation-building aid and military aid, Obama must also add more diplomacy to win over soft members of Al Shabaab.

America learned on 9/11 that it can't ignore the chaotic corners of the world that harbor terrorists. It also learned in Iraq that might doesn't always make right. Before Somalia becomes Talibanized, Obama needs to come down hard with a soft touch and save Somalia from itself.
 

Ah Guan

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A movie was made about Black Hawk Down... But as usual, Hollywood only told half the story.

Why did the Somalis declare war on the US forces in 1993? Why did so many Mogadishan men, women and children pick up AK47s to shoot at the US rangers???

The reason has been ignored by so many:

In an earlier mission, US helicopters fired rockets and killed 74 innocent people - important tribe elders, men and women - during their meeting in a compound. Turned out US forces had received faulty intel that their assassination target was in there.

That is a true story I would like to see be made into a movie
 

allanlee

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Why these damn yankees want to stir up trouble all over the world?
I've been to Somalia and although it's cowboy country and seems lawless..... actually there is a system there that the people abide by..... and the Somalians are friendly people unless you're an American or white skin....... they hate Americans !! ......... other races blend in very well with the locals :smile:
 

TeeKee

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Why these damn yankees want to stir up trouble all over the world?
I've been to Somalia and although it's cowboy country and seems lawless..... actually there is a system there that the people abide by..... and the Somalians are friendly people unless you're an American or white skin....... they hate Americans !! ......... other races blend in very well with the locals :smile:

the food there nice or not? :biggrin:
 

Dogtracker

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A movie was made about Black Hawk Down... But as usual, Hollywood only told half the story.

Why did the Somalis declare war on the US forces in 1993? Why did so many Mogadishan men, women and children pick up AK47s to shoot at the US rangers???

The reason has been ignored by so many:

In an earlier mission, US helicopters fired rockets and killed 74 innocent people - important tribe elders, men and women - during their meeting in a compound. Turned out US forces had received faulty intel that their assassination target was in there.

That is a true story I would like to see be made into a movie


Can pass the links to this unknown part of the Somali story?
 

Ah Guan

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Can pass the links to this unknown part of the Somali story?

I learnt about this through reading about the death of a talented young journalist called Dan Eldon

He was killed by an angry mob in Mogadishu while trying to cover the rocket strike
 
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