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Benefits for Singaporeans compare favourably with that elsewhere

MarrickG

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Benefits for Singaporeans compare favourably with that elsewhere

I AGREE with Mr Eric J. Brooks that Singaporeans have much to be grateful for ('Be grateful, Singapore', July 31). In fact, Singapore is one of the best managed countries in the world, if not the best.

I do not base this on casual observation but research. Let us start with health care.

Canadian health economist Cynthia Ramsay wrote a paper rating Singapore's health care as the best in the world. The World Health Organisation (WHO) ranks Singapore's health care as the sixth best in the world.

Singapore's life expectancy at 82 is higher than in most advanced countries, including the United States (78), Britain (79) and Canada (80), where Mr Brooks comes from. Our infant mortality is also lower.

What makes Singapore's achievement so spectacular is the fact that Singapore spends so little on health care compared to Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries. According to the WHO, Singapore spends 3.5 per cent of its GDP on health care, compared to 15.2 per cent in the US, 8.2 per cent in Britain and 9.8 per cent in Canada.

This could be partly attributed to better diet and a compact city, but it also indicates that taxpayers' money is spent efficiently. This means tax rates can be lower.

Next, let us look at education. It is arguable that Singapore's schools are the best in the world. According to Boston College, Singapore's children are the best in the world in mathematics and science. This is indicative of the quality of the education our children receive as well as their diligence.

Singapore's top university, the National University of Singapore, is rated by the Times Education Supplement as 30th in the world. This is not bad but it is still behind top American, British and Canadian universities.

Next, we take a look at crime. We all know Singapore's crime rate is low. But let us look at the actual numbers. Consider one statistic - the number of murders per 100,000 population. Singapore's murder rate is 0.39 per 100,000, compared to 5.62 in the US, 1.41 in Britain and 1.86 in Canada.

So in terms of health care, education and crime, Singapore has done on the whole better than these three advanced countries. Based on this, I agree with Mr Brooks that Singaporeans have much to be grateful for.

I also disagree with what Mr Paul Chan wrote last Saturday ('...but so should Canadians') about the free health care Canadians enjoy but Singaporeans do not. Making health care or anything free is not a good idea. Once you make something free, demand explodes and there will be rationing. Under Britain's National Health Service, patients sometimes wait up to a year before receiving treatment. They could be dead by then.

Exploding demand also means high taxes. Singapore's low tax rate is another thing we should be grateful for. Let us look at the top income tax rates in the four countries. Singapore's top income tax rate is currently 17 per cent, compared to 35 per cent (federal) in the US, 50 per cent in Britain and 29 per cent (federal) in Canada. In the US and Canada, taxpayers have to pay additional state or provincial taxes, making total income taxes for top earners in the range of 45 to 54 per cent.

That is why services must never be given away free. Our health care is subsidised up to 80 per cent for the lowest income group. Making it free would mean long delays in treatment and higher taxes.

We all complain about taxes and government charges. But actually the Singapore Government takes little of our money, compared to governments in other advanced countries. These countries generally have higher income, capital gains, property, goods and sales and other taxes than Singapore, even after accounting for certificates of entitlement, which they do not have.

A rough indication of how much money the Government takes from us is to look at government expenditure as a percentage of GDP. Singapore's government expenditure as a percentage of GDP is 16.3 per cent, compared to 19.9 per cent in the US, 50 per cent in Britain and 48.2 per cent in Canada.

In short, the advanced countries tax their citizens more and give them worse health care, education and law enforcement than Singapore.

Tan Keng Soon
 

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Shit,why do I have to read this so early in the morning ?...so nauseating.

Canadian health care?Read what Obama said in today's news.."Obama said that the Canadian model works for Canada. It would not work for the United States, in part simply because we've evolved differently," he said. "So, we've got to develop a uniquely American approach to this problem(health care)."------Canada annually spends $3,600 per capita on health care -- almost half of what is spent in the United States. and that Canadians support their system, and the American debate is just that.

Now can Tan Keng Soon explain why US is not debating how fucking good SG health care system is if its such a gold standard to follow...and Oh,why than our Malaysian FT minister has to send our old folks to die in JB.?

Education--Sure,if you keep on filling NUS with bright PRC(s) & Ah Neh(s) it sure will win hands down in any ranking.For statistics purpose.Where do the local aspiring students stand?---outside the campus of course.

Low Crimes--Sure its low.Why?Because most crimes do not make it to the statistics--that's why..Try reporting if a PRC punches you or if you kenna swindled by a rogue trader.You will get a nice letter from SG Police saying its your problem baby.
 

Nice-Gook

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Amazing isn't it ? Obama and US admires Canadian health care system while we have a fucken sinkie who runs it down.Now I understand why Benjamin Disraeli(UK PM 1874-18*0) said"There are three kinds of lies, lies, damned lies and statistics." ---Leegime thrives on this.,Sure "C" class wards are claimed 80%" subsidized...but do anyone knows how the costing is done?..Just like our 'subsidized HDB pigeon holes too--who really knows the costing?....And of course for every 100 beds in the hospital only a very small % may be for "C" class.Than the fighting & waiting for admission to "C'class..and the very low priority of treatments by incompetent medical officers from PRC and Burma...Leegime sure knows how to make you not wanting to ask for their so called subsidized "C"class.But would be prompt to point out statically that a very very subsidized beds are indeed available...
 

cowbehcowbu

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Mr Tan arguements were so lopped sided.
1]Medical care in canada is FREE for all....1] all senior citizen ,including PRs can get about n650$C upon 60+, also mmany discount in travels and even certains dairy goods..
3] IN china, ALL GLCs employees has a LIFE LONG pensions , plus almost free medical cares...on top of their CPF...they have unemployment insurance ontop of medical and social funds...their old rretired folks ,in general, are much much more worry-free,,enjoying their old ages..,,much better than a lot of our lower income senior citizens here.
also,, most have a roof over their heads, as given or heavily subsidised by the government..

I strongly suggest our gobmen to study their welfare system,,ie
CPF, unemployment insurence, medical insurance, pension contributions...

suggest Mr Tan to se more of the better sides of other countries...just feel proud and being lopped sided is not doing our countries any good...be critical yet honest and sincere...
 

TeeKee

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this guy sure can paint alot of nice picture about SGP with statistics...but in reality the people are paying for their own healthcare..people who can't afford to pay don't get treatment.

even though government collects 'low' taxes, some part of your salary goes to CPF and are withheld by the state.

if you don't have enough money from your CPF medisave, which is your own money by the way, you have to pay the difference by cash, provided you can use your CPF for treatments.

crimes rates are low in SGP? are all crime rates in SGP fully reported and recorded? why only use murder rate as comparison, what about others?

as for education, why only use science and maths as the benchmark? what about other subjects? should we measure the complete development rather than subjective comparisons?

the gabramen seems to take little from you as taxes. but indirect taxes are pushing the populace and making life difficult for them, especially low wage earners.

what is worse they even have ideas to use your CPF monies...

i think they are pushing it man...the system is going to break sooner or later...

would you prefer they throw away billions of taxpayers monies into foreign banks or give it back to the taxpayers?

think about it!
 

Char_Azn

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people who can't afford to pay don't get treatment.

Do you have any example of these. I've only heard of ridiculous amount of debt incurred after treatment but not refusal of treatment due to lack of money? I've heard talk about that in here but so far no one has came up with any evidence yet.
 

Nice-Gook

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Do you have any example of these. I've only heard of ridiculous amount of debt incurred after treatment but not refusal of treatment due to lack of money? I've heard talk about that in here but so far no one has came up with any evidence yet.

Oh that's simple.They can make you wait till the cows come home...if you die waiting that's your pasal...I't just that simple....or they can just push you around for months serviced by incompetent novice FT doctors from PRC or Mynmmar...hey ! we served you but its your fault for dying so soon.
 

TeeKee

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Do you have any example of these. I've only heard of ridiculous amount of debt incurred after treatment but not refusal of treatment due to lack of money? I've heard talk about that in here but so far no one has came up with any evidence yet.

if you got cancer, you know the treatment will cost you hundreds of thousands..the money which you don't have?

will you go for treatment?

how many ah peks and ah sohs collecting cardboards are like that?

you need examples, go talk to them about their medical conditions...
 

Nice-Gook

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if you got cancer, you know the treatment will cost you hundreds of thousands..the money which you don't have?
will you go for treatment?how many ah peks and ah sohs collecting cardboards are like that?you need examples, go talk to them about their medical conditions...

Why only cancer,that's already too late?

What happened to prevention is better than cure?...you will not be dignosed till too late.Its chicken or egg situation....Govt doctors here are famous for practicing legal medicine which simply means come with a 3rd stage cancer than we will attend to you.
 
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