Bangkok: Now Red Camp PISSED and PROTESTING

[uncleyap]

Although his formal ally Newin & gang had betrayed him, I still think Thug-Sin & his followers will stir up fights against Abhisit, there is no doubt that they will not accept this and do nothing. During PAD's protest the Thug-Sin's thugs had been bombing with grenades etc. That I fear may escalate now that they are even more pissed after Abhisit took PM's office. Don't be surprised to see more bombings.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20081215/tap-thailand-politics-c8d5519.html

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<cite class="auth">AFP - 1 hour 52 minutes ago</cite>BANGKOK (AFP) - - Thai opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva was elected Monday as the nation's third prime minister in four months, triggering protests from supporters of the old government who tried to block parliament.

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British-born Democrat Party leader Abhisit will head up a weak coalition government after winning a parliamentary vote nearly two weeks after a court dissolved the ruling party linked to ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Dozens of angry Thaksin supporters clad in red shirts clashed with police and threw traffic barriers outside the gates of parliament to try to prevent lawmakers from leaving after the session.

"Abhisit gained more than half of the vote, therefore I declare that Abhisit has been voted as the new prime minister," House Speaker Chai Chidchob announced.

He said 44-year-old Abhisit won 235 votes to 198 for ex-police chief Pracha Promnog, who had been proposed by the former ruling party and its allies.

Oxford-educated Abhisit gave no immediate indication of the direction his government would take but has previously said his priorities were restoring the economy and forging political unity after months of turmoil.
Loyalists gathered round him and offered congratulations after the vote, which came amid reports of MPs being locked in hotels and having their mobile phones confiscated as rival parties battled to form a new government.

The vote follows six months of increasingly disruptive protests by the anti-Thaksin People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), which peaked with a week-long blockade of Bangkok's airports beginning in late November.

The turmoil left 350,000 passengers stranded and has badly hit Thailand's international image and its economy, with GDP growth forecast at just two percent next year.

PAD supporters said the previous government was running the nation on behalf of Thaksin, and had already occupied the prime minister's offices since August and forced the suspension of parliament on one occasion.

Thaksin was overthrown in a coup in 2006 and remains in exile abroad to avoid corruption charges.
Since elections returned democracy to Thailand in December 2007, the Constitutional Court has removed two Thaksin-linked PPP prime ministers.

In September this year, the court ruled that elected premier Samak Sundaravej must be stripped of office because he hosted TV cooking shows.

On December 2, the court dissolved the PPP and handed a five-year political ban to then-premier Somchai Wongsawat, who is Thaksin's brother-in-law, over vote fraud charges dating back to last December's polls.
Several members of the PPP defected to the Democrats in recent days, along with several smaller parties that were part of the previous coalition government.

Thaksin's supporters have accused the powerful army of interfering in the formation of the new government, labelling the dissolution of the ruling party "a silent coup."

Twice-elected Thaksin alienated elements of the old elite in the palace, military and bureaucracy, who saw his immense popularity among the urban and rural poor as a drain on some of their power.

Abhisit failed to win over Thaksin's rural supporters in the elections, but is believed to have the backing of the kingdom's old establishment.

Thawee Suraritikul, a political science professor at Sukhothai University, said Abhisit's Democrats will face a shaky coalition and a slim majority.

"Their first three months will be a crucial period. They have many problems waiting for them -- economics, and the sharing of power among coalition partners," he told AFP.

 

[Alu862]

Do you want this to happen in Singapore? Which party will thne take over? The no policy SDP?

 

[uncleyap]

Do you want this to happen in Singapore? Which party will thne take over? The no policy SDP?

Why not?

Pay the price and get the change!

Many countries and people had done so, and proved that stability is NOT the most desirable thing, and stability must go in order to have changes taking places during the time of changes.

It had always been so in the history of entire globe.

IT WILL BE DEAD AND STAGNANT IF ANY COUNTRY WERE TO BE REMINDING STABLE TILL ETERNITY. It means that deadwood won't be removed and rots slowing and painfully all the way.

However the volatile period must be only as long as needed for necessary changes to complete, not stretched too far.

 

[uncleyap]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081215/wl_nm/us_thailand_politics;_ylt=AtVXTdhQAjlfYtk1sCT_0Ias0NUE

New Thai prime minister faces immediate protests
<cite class="vcard">By Chalathip Thirasoonthrakul Chalathip Thirasoonthrakul </cite> – <abbr title="2008-12-15T04:43:47-0800" class="recenttimedate">9 mins ago</abbr>
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<!-- end .related-media --> BANGKOK (Reuters) – Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva became Thailand's third prime minister in as many months on Monday, taking control with a slender majority in parliament and an economy teetering on the brink of recession.

In a sign of the trouble in store for the Oxford-educated economist, 200 supporters of the government sacked by the courts two weeks ago blocked access to parliament after the vote and smashed windows of cars carrying MPs from his Democrat Party.

Chanting "Abhisit, army nominee," the red-shirted demonstrators denounced the 44-year-old as a front man for the military, which ousted elected leader Thaksin Shinawatra in 2006 and which has been accused of political meddling ever since.

Abhisit was backed by 235 MPs against 198 for the former government's candidate, but his thin majority is likely to take a hit on January 11 when by-elections are held to replace 29 MPs fired in this month's court ruling.

Relying on small parties and a breakaway faction of the pro-Thaksin Puea Thai party, he will have little room for maneuver as the global slowdown and the recent blockade of Bangkok's airports by anti-Thaksin protesters hit the tourism- and export-driven economy.

"Very soon, the impact of the global economic crisis will be felt more seriously in Thailand. The new prime minister needs to prepare immediately for that," Sompop Manarungsan of Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University said.

Outgoing Finance Minister Suchart Thada-Thamrongvech has forecast economic contraction of 0.5-1.0 percent in the first quarter of 2009 from a year earlier and zero growth in the second, putting it on the brink of recession.

"There are no new bookings. You go to the hotels and they are empty," Luzi Matzig, managing director of travel agency Asian Trails, said of the double blow from the airport shutdowns and economic downturn.

Abhisit declined to talk about policies after the vote, but said last week that reviving growth through increased government spending would be his top priority, although it remains to be seen where he will get the money from.

He has suggested there could be some reallocation of regional spending, but that would be sure to outrage voters in the populous north and northeast, where love of Thaksin and loathing of Abhisit runs deep.

THAKSIN'S STILL AROUND

Hours after Abhisit's election, the Foreign Ministry announced it had revoked Thaksin's diplomatic passport on Friday, and may also withdraw his regular passport.

Thaksin has spent time in Hong Kong, Beijing and Dubai since Britain canceled his visa in November after his conviction in absentia on conflict of interest charges in Thailand.

On Saturday, the telecoms billionaire made a recorded video address to 40,000 supporters at a Bangkok sports stadium, calling for national reconciliation after three years of turmoil and urging the military not to meddle in Monday's parliamentary vote.

"May all sides take one step back and respect the results," he said. "Please don't use any institution to intervene. Just let the country move forward. Don't make people suffer more."

His supporters have accused the military of launching a "silent coup" by claiming to have royal backing and pushing small parties in the previous government to form a Democrat-led government, a charge the army has denied.

A member of Thaksin's inner circle said last week the gloom hanging over the country may well make Abhisit's win a Pyrrhic victory, destroying his image among businessmen and Bangkok's middle classes as a safe pair of hands on the economic tiller.

Abhisit is also unlikely to make any headway in solving the fundamental rift in Thai society between the Bangkok elite and the countryside, where voters still hanker after Thaksin and his policies of cheap healthcare and agricultural loans.

"We have been and continue to be quite pessimistic about the prospects of such a resolution occurring in the short- to medium-term," Economist Intelligence Unit analyst Jacob Hamstra said.

(Additional reporting by Nopporn Wong-Anan and Darren Schuettler; Writing by Ed Cropley; Editing by Alan Raybould and Dean Yates)

 

[uncleyap]

Totally true and fully agreed.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/12/15/headlines/headlines_30091038.php
Democrat-led govt to face more difficulties than in 1997 : Chuan


By The Nation



PM-elect Abhisit Vejjajiva and the Democrat-led government are confronted with much more daunting challenges than the economic crisis in 1997 at the time when the party assumed power, ex-Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai said Monday.


Chuan was the premier in 1997 when the country and the region were hit by the economic crisis.


Chuan, also former Democrat leader, told Abhisit that the country has not only hit by the economic crisis but also suffered from social division.
"It is not easy to administer the country at this period of difficulties. Everybody has to work hard and sacrifice for the sake of the country," Chuan said.


Chuan's suggestion came as Abhisit defeated Pheu Pandin's leader Pracha Promnok in a Monday Parliamentary vote, making him the new prime minister. Abhisit came to Chuan to seek some advice.



Chuan also advised that Abhisit has to build up unity and strength among the coalition parties.


"It is an opportunity for Democrat Party to prove itself. To run a coalition government, you have to be fair to all coalition parties," Chuan was reported as telling Abhisit.


The government needs non-MPs to be in the government, Chuan said.

 

[Alu862]

People have protested in Eastern Europe and the Middle East and the countries are still backward with high unemployment

 

[uncleyap]

People have protested in Eastern Europe and the Middle East and the countries are still backward with high unemployment

In the 1st place you are not able to provide any theory to allege that protest had anything to with

backward with high unemployment

Further, I am not fully agreed with BEING ADVANCED & EMPLOYED @ ALL COST.

At most, I can agree with you that all these conflicting interests must come to a healthy balance in longer term. What I was pointing out in previous msg is volatility is necessary at the moments of change - as a part of necessary prices to be paid.

Changes will take a nation into it's next lap of development and progress. They come at a price, it will be foolish to try to delay their arrival or even more foolish to try to avoid having to go through changes.

 

[Alu862]

Is Georgia better off with a democratic government? How about Moldova (if you know where that is)

 

[samurai1110]

People have protested in Eastern Europe and the Middle East and the countries are still backward with high unemployment

What about the Philippines?
People's Power my foot!
They have more maids overseas now than during 'Merry Marcos' time.

 

[samurai1110]

Is Georgia better off with a democratic government? How about Moldova (if you know where that is)

For him Moldova is in paradise.
If he was in the Middle-East he will probably be a suicide-bomber believing in Osama that he can be in paradise with 7 virgins waiting for him in heaven this way!

 

[uncleyap]

Is Georgia better off with a democratic government? How about Moldova (if you know where that is)

I am not in promotion of blindness towards Democracy, I will later make some efforts to highlight some aspects regarding how Democracy can be bad or counter productive - particularly in Singaporean context.

In general people are commonly in blindly positive assumption of Democracy.

e.g. in your post quoted you almost wrongly assumed that Democracy implied Competence of Government, which is a naive assumption. e.g. Bush was democratically elected but bloody fucking hell incompetent.

Democracy strictly speaking is a good thing only when the people concerned are UPRIGHT and GOOD. The basis from which this noble idea of Democracy was established was based on the (rather naive and ideal) assumption that the people concerned are majority in good faith; good knowledge; good integrity; good sense of justice and not extremely selfish.

But in the reversed, as Democracy was applied on a bunch of majority evil; greedy; selfish; coward and dishonest people, only the worst evil powers will be unleashed from the same bunch of people, instead of any good. Crooked laws & policies will then forbid all the good things and legalized all the bad things, and furthermore direct all public resources to be used for bad purposes. In such a scenario, the minority of good upright people will become powerless to stop things from going towards bad / wrong, save for undemocratic means to stop the evil majority.

This scenario is not uncommon in this world nor unique to e.g. Kiasu & Kiasi red dot. :p

Reversed back again, Democracy within a majority of Good Natured People who were selfless; righteous; caring; courageous; wise; kind; fair & honest, will definitely bring out the BEST of them. It would be so perfect and beautiful then, there is no doubt about it, because a Democratic System in this case unleashed it's power to make good things better.

But where to find this sort of idealistic scenario? We should all leave red dot for such a paradise!

 

[matamafia]

Abhisit Govt will have short lifespan as well

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/12/16/politics/politics_30091071.php


Govt won't last long: Pheu Thai
By The Nation
Published on December 16, 2008


The Pheu Thai Party says it's ready to be the opposition party in Parliament and predicted the Democrats' coalition government would not last long.

"We will do the opposition's duty at our best. We will give the new PM a chance to rule the country first and not rush to file a no-confidence motion, as the country is too ruined," former People Power Party chief whip Wittaya Buranasiri said after a Pheu Thai meeting.

A source, who asked not to be named, claimed the Democrats were not likely to hold power long as the government must pay for what it had done.

"Things that go round come back round [to harm people who do wrong]," he said, without explaining what the Democrats had actually done to justify negative repercussions.

Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva was elected as the 27th prime minister yesterday. He beat Pol Gen Pracha Promnok, leader of Pheu Pandin party.

Wittaya praised three veteran politicians: Pracharaj Party leader Snoh Thienthong, Pol Gen Pracha, and Gen Chettha Thanajaro, the former Ruam Jai Thai Chart Pattana leader. All three voted for Pracha, who was nominated by Pheu Thai Party.

"They are respectable politicians, who keep their words. They are honest with people. It is hard to find such these days," he said.

Snoh, who proposed Pracha to the House as a candidate to be PM, said he had no regrets over his nominee being defeated by Abhisit.

"For me, it's a victory as Pracha and Chettha stood by me to solve the country's problems. I beg all of you to wait and see what will happens to the country after this," he said.

A source, who asked not to be named, said Snoh expected to be an opposition leader as Pheu Thai leader Yongyuth Wichaidit was not an MP.

Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan said Abhisit should explain to the House on the day his government delivers its policy statement how he would "take responsibility" for being a draft dodger and the military's involvement in the formation of his government.

He said his party would not appoint a shadow Cabinet to scrutinise the Democrats' coalition.

 

[Naka_Timo]

Bangkok is still not tat stable yet.

 

[Char_Azn]

Although I agree that peaceful protest are good for the society as a whole and it allows others to generate awareness to some issues, whatever is happening to Thailand right now is anything but progress to the country. Yap has no idea what he is talking about. Even if the previous govenment was corrupted, they were democratically elected. They were choosen by the pple to rule the country. Right now the current government does not have the mandate of the pple. Even if its 50.01% vote for a corrupt governement, it still is what the pple have chosen, even if most of them are "poor, stupid, uneducated" as the protest leaders claimed. Getting elected politicians to jump ship and defect to the other side is definitely not right

I give you an example of how twisted this is in SG terms. Take for example one day, the opposition coalition somehow managed to get majority votes. However PAP play the political game and convince enough members of the opposition party to defect to their side and make them the majority and retake then government, how does that sound? Does that sound democratic to U?

And guess what, during the protest period, the army have suggested holding another election. PPP of course have the rights to refuse, PAD however also refused. Why? Coz they know they cannot win in a proper election, instead of doing it the democractic way, the seize power by underhanded means. Is this how you define progress? Yap's logic and view of how a democracy should be is really twisted

 

[Alu862]

I am not in promotion of blindness towards Democracy, I will later make some efforts to highlight some aspects regarding how Democracy can be bad or counter productive - particularly in Singaporean context.

In general people are commonly in blindly positive assumption of Democracy.

e.g. in your post quoted you almost wrongly assumed that Democracy implied Competence of Government, which is a naive assumption. e.g. Bush was democratically elected but bloody fucking hell incompetent.

Democracy strictly speaking is a good thing only when the people concerned are UPRIGHT and GOOD. The basis from which this noble idea of Democracy was established was based on the (rather naive and ideal) assumption that the people concerned are majority in good faith; good knowledge; good integrity; good sense of justice and not extremely selfish.

But in the reversed, as Democracy was applied on a bunch of majority evil; greedy; selfish; coward and dishonest people, only the worst evil powers will be unleashed from the same bunch of people, instead of any good. Crooked laws & policies will then forbid all the good things and legalized all the bad things, and furthermore direct all public resources to be used for bad purposes. In such a scenario, the minority of good upright people will become powerless to stop things from going towards bad / wrong, save for undemocratic means to stop the evil majority.

This scenario is not uncommon in this world nor unique to e.g. Kiasu & Kiasi red dot. :p

Reversed back again, Democracy within a majority of Good Natured People who were selfless; righteous; caring; courageous; wise; kind; fair & honest, will definitely bring out the BEST of them. It would be so perfect and beautiful then, there is no doubt about it, because a Democratic System in this case unleashed it's power to make good things better.

But where to find this sort of idealistic scenario? We should all leave red dot for such a paradise!

You still have not proven how your cause is more beneficia

 

[Nomad]

this is somewhat expected but at least those Red Armies are not so violent.

 

[uncleyap]

You still have not proven how your cause is more beneficia

What are you expecting? Ang Pao policy? Not even X'mas yet you are dreaming of CNY already?

 

[uncleyap]

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/12/17/politics/politics_30091202.php

Red shirts being mobilised for siege


By The Nation
Published on December 17, 2008




Right from day one, the Democrat-led government faces a major obstacle to running the country, with thousands of pro-Thaksin "red-shirt" protesters being mobilised from 11 provinces in the North.


<!-- Google Dtail Ads --> Supporters of Pheu Thai are en route to Bangkok to lay siege to Parliament in a bid to stop the Abhisit government from announcing its policies - the same ordeal that the Somchai government went through with the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) in October.

Petcharawat Wattapong-sirikul, chairman of the Rak Chiang Mai 51, the red-shirt group that supports ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, decided to send protesters to Bangkok on a daily basis to rally against the Democrats' government.
Some reportedly left their homes yesterday to join the rally in Sanam Luang.Meanwhile, the red-shirt group in Ubon Ratchathani has called for an "uprising" of Isaan people against MPs who betrayed Thaksin to rally against the new government.


Theerapat Watcharapol, a radio anchorman led 500 protesters to rally on the streets of Ubon yesterday, damning the MPs who defected from Pheu Thai to the Democrats coalition as traitors. They accused the MPs of being selfish and betraying poor people who voted for them. The protesters gathered outside the house of Withoon Nambutr in Muang district and burnt an effigy of the MP.


Ubon Ratchathani governor Chuan Sirinanporn urged people not to join Theerapat's movement, saying the country stood to loose if the people were divided.


Former government spokesman Nattawut Saikua, a leader of the Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship, said the group would join red shirts across the country to protest against the new government but his group would resort to peaceful and legal ways to do it.


"We will not lay siege to Parliament to prevent the House meeting," he said.


He defended the red shirts who blocked MPs from leaving Parliament yesterday, and destroyed cars and injured some politicians after voting for the new PM, saying no leaders ordered the mob to behave that way but they were angry.


Charan Distaapicha, a leader of the DAAD, said the group would organise rallies at Sanam Luang to protest against the change of government, which he said had been done unfairly with outside influence.


The group would pressure the new government to amend the Constitution and take legal action against the PAD for its illegal occupation of Government House and closing the country's two main airports.


He said the DAAD would not resort to violence in it protests, claiming violence occurred on Monday because the red-shirts did not have leaders to control them.


He believed Prime Minister-elect Abhisit Vejjajiva would not survive the political storm and his government would be short-lived because he faced political pressure from both the PAD and the DAAD.


He said the PAD made 13 demands the new government must meet and the DAAD had two. "This will show that the change of political camps will not solve the crisis facing the country," he said.

 

[uncleyap]

Who is the Client ? Temasek or Thaksin

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/korbsak/2007/08/26/entry-1

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Who is the Client? Temasek or Thaksin
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<table class="blog_center_data"> <tbody><tr> <td> Who is the Client ? Temasek or Thaksin

Surin Upatkoon, the main shareholder in the controversial Kularb Kaew Co, was yesterday charged with a criminal offence for alleged illegal representation of a foreign company under the Foreign Business Act 1999.

Acting police chief Seripisut Temiyavej said that Fairmont Investments Group, based in the
British Virgin Islands, would also face criminal charges under the act.
In his testimony given last September, Surin claimed that he had financed his investment in the company with his own money.
He also insisted he was not a nominee of the Singaporean government's investment arm, Temasek Holdings.
The above was published by The Nation on 25 August, 2007.


Not much. The police was not willing to provide anymore details of what went behind the scene.

Let us look at the fact:
On 10 March 2006 Datok Surin wrote a check worth 2,720 million baht to Kularb Kaew Co, for payment of his shares, from his very own account at Siam Commercial Bank. The cash was withdrawn in the afternoon; however, the very same amount was deposited into this account from an offshore company called Fairmont Investment Group, based in BVI. in the morning, same day.

Furthermore, the investigation conducted by the Ministry of Commerce revealed that this offshore account was with the Credit Suisse Bank in <country-region w:st="on">
Singapore</country-region> , under the name of Fairmont Investment Group. Things get more complicated, when it was found that the owner, <city w:st="on">
Fairmont</city>, was not the one that has the authority to withdraw the cash. The payment instruction was from the company called Green Land Company limited.

One can easily assume that

Green
Land is definitely the owner of the mystery 2,720 million baht. Interesting enough, Datok Surin also admitted that the investment money was not his. He borrowed them from <city w:st="on">
Fairmont</city>!!
Who is the man behind the scene that is so very kind to Datok Surin, kind enough to lend him over 2 billion baht cash to invest in Kularb Kaew.

We need to take a close look at <city w:st="on">
Fairmont</city> or, rather, the real owner, Green Land Company Ltd.
The following is new stuff, posted especially for Nation blog members krub.

Green Land Company Limited was established in
<country-region w:st="on">Brunei</country-region>. Here is the address:
Britannia House 41, 4th Floor, Cator Road <city w:st="on">Bandar Seri Begawan, BS8811
<country-region w:st="on">
Brunei</country-region></city> Darussalam
Further digging krub: Having the name and with the help of Goggles, more fact reveals.

There is a company called Heritage Trust Group that is sharing the same address as Green Land Company limited. Heritage Trust Group is also at Britannia House 41, 4th Floor, Cator Road <city w:st="on">Bandar Seri Begawan, BS8811 <country-region w:st="on">
Brunei</country-region></city> Darussalam.
Another surprise!!They both also shared the same correspondence addresses in Singapore as well. Here it is: 50Raffles Place #15-05/06 <city w:st="on">Singapore Land Tower</city> <country-region w:st="on">Singapore </country-region>048623
Who are the Heritage Trust Group? Two names came up: Dr Angelo Vernados and NG GEOK LAN

Dr Angelo Vernados is currently founder of the Heritage Trust Group,<country-region w:st="on">Singapore</country-region>, a provider of offshore companies, nominee and trust services to the legal, accounting and private banking sectors throughout South East Asia and the
Middle East.
Ref:http://www.intellitrain.biz/team_advpanel.php
NG GEOK LAN also sits on the board of Heritage Trust Group. He is the one that authorize the 2,720 million baht on behalf of Green Land Company Ltd.
From the above, we can conclude that the money invested in Kularb Kaew that was supposed to be from the Thai entity is no longer valid. The money was from offshore account, managed by Singaporean company that provided what they call “ Wealth Management Services”. Dr Angelo Vernados and NG GEOK LAN are merely nominees, part of the services, that the company provided to the client.
When Surin cried out loud that he was not a Tamesek nominee. I truly believe in him. Tamesak belongs to Singaporean Government. No reason for the Government to arrange such a set up. I cannot help myself recalling on my very first theory that Thaksin never did sell his shares? So, who is the client? Temasek or Thaksin. Your guess is as good as mine.
BTW: If you can read Thai and rich enough, you may want to click on http://www.korbsak.com/talk_500420.htm to get more information on “Wealth management services ”. ha ha







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[Alu862]

Go a head and try to gather the masses to protest. You will only get an environment with no shelter, no homes, like in Bangkok and a poorly run education system like in you dear racist friend's California.