Australia's Version Of NS?

[Aussie Pete]

As has been widely discussed on a "particular" Singapore forum, one of the considerations faced by those of us who decide to become Singapore permanent residents, is the fact that we are agreeing to our children serving compulsory National Service when they "come of age".

This in my mind, is probably the major factor in the decision-making process. However, it is still our choice whether to become a PR or not. The SG Government are very forthcoming and transparent when it comes to this requirement. It is outlined quite clearly throughout the application process.

As is well known, NS is not a "choice" for male Singapore citizens. It could well be a choice for some Australian criminals in the latest plans put forward by senior police.

People convicted of serious assault would be offered two years' army service instead of a jail sentence under a radical plan.

The proposal is being floated by senior police in Victoria, and will be put to Defence Department officials, lawyers and the Justice Department.

It is backed by victims of assaults and their families, who say it's time to tackle the the state's violence head-on.

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[chinkangkor]

At least in the Aussie version, they will be receiving full army pay.

 

[Aussie Pete]

At least in the Aussie version, they will be receiving full army pay.

...and they still get to make the choice... my biggest concern, is that known violent criminals will be given access to deadly weapons. To me, this must surely mean trouble.

 

[Satan]

...and they still get to make the choice... my biggest concern, is that known violent criminals will be given access to deadly weapons. To me, this must surely mean trouble.

The first immigrants to Oz were criminals anyway. If they could reform, I don't see why others can't. You've got to give others a second chance.

 

[imperialarms]

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it become like this???

 

[madmansg]

one more reason you better watch out as your sons going to kill you for making them serve NS.

 

[rodent2005]

...and they still get to make the choice... my biggest concern, is that known violent criminals will be given access to deadly weapons. To me, this must surely mean trouble.

I believe that the Australian govt will be more judicious than offer an army stint to any criminal.

 

[kiwibird7]

...and they still get to make the choice... my biggest concern, is that known violent criminals will be given access to deadly weapons. To me, this must surely mean trouble.

PM Elect John Key's National Party taking over as Govt is thinking of starting an army style BOOT CAMP to discipline recalcitrant Teen Crims. All the discipline of military training BUT without the training of firearms.

Under law and order, National would initiate an "army-style boot camp" for young offenders and introduce 600 new police staff, half of which would go to Auckland.

"We are seeing an increase in violent crime, youth crime is on the increase, we are going to take a broader range approach to solving law and order," he said.

The corrections boot camps would also include mentoring programmes for offenders once they are back in the community.

http://www.hbtoday.co.nz/localnews/...localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

 

[Neh_Neh_Pok]

one more reason you better watch out as your sons going to kill you for making them serve NS.

You can't stop NS la, you need to 'psycho' that Lau Lee to ask him announce to the public that 'NS will be officially abolish in effect on xx/xx/xxxx'

 

[kiwibird7]

You can't stop NS la, you need to 'psycho' that Lau Lee to ask him announce to the public that 'NS will be officially abolish in effect on xx/xx/xxxx'

LKY cannot abolish NS as it was implemented to camouflage UNEMPLOYMENT figures. Unless S'porean youths are willing to accept the low paying jobs currently being done by foreign workers, S'pore youths not absorbed into NS if it were abolished on xx/xx/xxxx would be sitting at home unemployed for a long time.

 

[Neh_Neh_Pok]

LKY cannot abolish NS as it was implemented to camouflage UNEMPLOYMENT figures. Unless S'porean youths are willing to accept the low paying jobs currently being done by foreign workers, S'pore youths not absorbed into NS if it were abolished on xx/xx/xxxx would be sitting at home unemployed for a long time.

You never know, our Lao Lee can do alot of 'magic', whenever he said something, everyone believes, agrees and follows

 

[scroobal]

This in my mind, is probably the major factor in the decision-making process. However, it is still our choice whether to become a PR or not. The SG Government are very forthcoming and transparent when it comes to this requirement. It is outlined quite clearly throughout the application process.

Singapore was started and grew up as an entrepot and has had a long tradition of housing expats. The issue of NS impacting expats' children has been there the moment NS was promulgated.

The US Embassy has long provided extensive and detailed advice to its countrymen on NS obligations. They go a little further as well by suggesting avenue and routes while having their cake which no other embassy / high commision does. The Canadians do benefit as well as the American Club offers the same admission privileges to the Canadians (vastly from other nationalities who want to join the club ) thus they are in the same info loop.

Suggest you hook up with canadian/american families if you want to know more but the moment they find out that your spouse is local, that info will dry up real quick.

 

[angie II]

LKY cannot abolish NS as it was implemented to camouflage UNEMPLOYMENT figures.

 

[chinkangkor]

...and they still get to make the choice... my biggest concern, is that known violent criminals will be given access to deadly weapons. To me, this must surely mean trouble.

After they have been properly disciplined and reformed, they will become a positive force.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Singapore was started and grew up as an entrepot and has had a long tradition of housing expats. The issue of NS impacting expats' children has been there the moment NS was promulgated.

The US Embassy has long provided extensive and detailed advice to its countrymen on NS obligations. They go a little further as well by suggesting avenue and routes while having their cake which no other embassy / high commision does. The Canadians do benefit as well as the American Club offers the same admission privileges to the Canadians (vastly from other nationalities who want to join the club ) thus they are in the same info loop.

Suggest you hook up with canadian/american families if you want to know more but the moment they find out that your spouse is local, that info will dry up real quick.

Hi mate - just for the record - my wife's not local. We were married many years ago in Shanghai, lived in Australia together and then we moved to Singapore a couple of years ago (she had never even visited here before that).

 

[chinkangkor]

Hi mate - just for the record - my wife's not local. We were married many years ago in Shanghai, lived in Australia together and then we moved to Singapore a couple of years ago (she had never even visited here before that).

Then your wife should know 'good men won't become soldiers' (好儿不当兵).

 

[angie II]

'good men won't become soldiers'

NS is required 2 roughen up WIMPS

 

[The_Latest_H]

...and they still get to make the choice... my biggest concern, is that known violent criminals will be given access to deadly weapons. To me, this must surely mean trouble.

It'd depend on what type of criminals would they offer this. If they are people who have truly repented and have signed an agreement that allows the government's police departments to regulate them and punish them if the terms are violated, then I'd say its worth having a shot at this.

Obviously hardcore criminals would never take up such an offer, hence I think the Federal and state governments should already know that a filtering system should be in place before anything is passed by means of legislation through the state government or by the Commonwealth in Canberra.

 

[chinkangkor]

NS is required 2 roughen up WIMPS

NS is the place where they turn normal people into wimps due to the pent up anger and frustrations they built up during the 2.5 years in SAF.

Those who never did NS will not display such a trait.

 

[angie II]

NS is the place where they turn normal people into wimps due to the pent up anger and frustrations they built up during the 2.5 years in SAF.

Those who never did NS will not display such a trait.

bud of course! how cud i disagree?
den gahmen shud hire CONTRACTORS 2 defend sinkapore right???