• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Australia to formally apologize to Aborigines

zack123

Alfrescian
Loyal
If you think Singapore is bad cos the leaders are trying to brainwash us, look at what happened in Australia where you're forcibly taken out of the community to adopt the "better" western way of life.....

MOUNT DRUITT, Australia - As a girl, Mari Melito Russell felt out of place. She was darker than the other kids at school, she felt more comfortable in the forest than her suburban home and she had vivid dreams of an Aboriginal woman beckoning her.

At age 24, she learned a shocking truth that helped explain her unease and set her on an agonizing search for an identity snatched away from her the day she was born.

Russell is among thousands of Australian Aborigines who were forcibly removed from their families under policies that lasted for decades until 1970, leaving deep scars on countless lives and the nation’s psyche.
 

Ah Guan

Alfrescian
Loyal
Rudd's official apology to the lost generation opens doors to future lawsuits and expensive settlements.

 

Aussie Pete

Alfrescian
Loyal
If you think Singapore is bad cos the leaders are trying to brainwash us, look at what happened in Australia where you're forcibly taken out of the community to adopt the "better" western way of life.....

MOUNT DRUITT, Australia - As a girl, Mari Melito Russell felt out of place. She was darker than the other kids at school, she felt more comfortable in the forest than her suburban home and she had vivid dreams of an Aboriginal woman beckoning her.

At age 24, she learned a shocking truth that helped explain her unease and set her on an agonizing search for an identity snatched away from her the day she was born.

Russell is among thousands of Australian Aborigines who were forcibly removed from their families under policies that lasted for decades until 1970, leaving deep scars on countless lives and the nation’s psyche.
The important thing to note is that our lost generation was a generation or two (plus) ago. The subject of formal apology has been going on for a decade. Howard should have followed the leads and wants of mainstream Australia years ago, and formally apologised. My family and I were personal activists on this subject when it was 'hot', camping out in front of Parliament House and the joining the protest at the Opera House. We did so in honour of our heritage and roots.
 

Aussie Pete

Alfrescian
Loyal
The important thing to note is that our lost generation was a generation or two (plus) ago. The subject of formal apology has been going on for a decade. Howard should have followed the leads and wants of mainstream Australia years ago, and formally apologised. My family and I were personal activists on this subject when it was 'hot', camping out in front of Parliament House and the joining the protest at the Opera House. We did so in honour of our heritage and roots.
I should add that a "better way of western life" is not even close to an accurate assessment of the reasoning (however illogical) of the offenders. West vs East does not enter into this discussion.
 

Ah Guan

Alfrescian
Loyal
The important thing to note is that our lost generation was a generation or two (plus) ago. The subject of formal apology has been going on for a decade. Howard should have followed the leads and wants of mainstream Australia years ago, and formally apologised. My family and I were personal activists on this subject when it was 'hot', camping out in front of Parliament House and the joining the protest at the Opera House. We did so in honour of our heritage and roots.

Good on ya maaaayte.

Though I'm not entirely convinced this was what the Australian mainstream wanted. Many young Aussies I spoke to (labour and greenies supporters included) gave me this impression.

Anyway I think the white colonists fucked aborigines up. The damage is irrepairable. It will always be a stain on your national psyche.
 

zack123

Alfrescian
Loyal
Some things never change...........

Australia to ban alcohol for Aborigines

CANBERRA, Australia --Australia's prime minister announced plans Thursday to ban pornography and alcohol for Aborigines in northern areas and tighten control over their welfare benefits to fight child sex abuse among them.

Some Aboriginal leaders rejected the plan as paternalistic and said the measures were discriminatory and would violate the civil rights of the country's original inhabitants. But others applauded the initiative and recommended extending the welfare restrictions to Aborigines in other parts of the country.

Prime Minister John Howard was responding to a report last week that found sexual abuse of children to be rampant in indigenous communities in the Northern Territory. The report said the abuse was fueled by endemic alcohol abuse, unemployment, poverty and other factors causing a breakdown in traditional society.

"This is a national emergency," Howard told Parliament. "We're dealing with a group of young Australians for whom the concept of childhood innocence has never been present."

Howard announced the measures for the Northern Territory, an Outback region where the federal government retains powers it doesn't have over Australia's six states. He urged state leaders to apply similar tough rules in their jurisdictions.

The federal government can change laws in the territory with an act of Parliament, where Howard has a majority that ensures he can implement his policy.

Australia is home to about 400,000 Aborigines. About 60,000 live in the Northern Territory, often in isolated, impoverished communities where jobs are scarce and substance abuse is widespread. The land was returned to them over the past 30 years and accounts for about half the Northern Territory, which is about twice the size of Texas.

The plan angered some Aboriginal leaders, who said it was the kind of government behavior that has disenfranchised Aborigines and created the problems in the first place. They also complained they had not been consulted; the government had not previously indicated it was considering such action.


"I'm absolutely disgusted by this patronizing government control," said Mitch, a member of a government board helping Aborigines who were taken from their parents under past assimilation laws who uses one name. "And tying drinking with welfare payments is just disgusting."

"If they're going to do that, they're going to have to do that with every single person in Australia, not just black people," she said.

Howard said the sale, possession and transportation of alcohol would be banned for six months on the Aboriginal-owned land, after which the policy would be reviewed. The child abuse report found drinking was a key factor in the collapse of Aboriginal culture, contributing to neglect of children and creating opportunities for pedophiles.

Hardcore pornography also would be banned, and publicly funded computers would be audited to ensure that they had not downloaded such images. The report said pornography was rife in Aboriginal communities and that children often were exposed to it.

Under Howard's plan, new restrictions would be placed on welfare payments for Aborigines living on the land to prevent the money from being spent on alcohol and gambling. Parents would be required to spend at least half their welfare on essentials such as food, and payments also would be linked to a child's school attendance.

Howard also called on state governments to send police to the Northern Territory to address a shortage on Aboriginal land there and offered to pay their expenses.

The child abuse report was commissioned by the Northern Territory government and is widely regarded as credible although it attracted some critics. It was unable to quantify the extent of the sexual abuse problem, since anecdotal evidence suggested much of it went unreported.

Conducted by an indigenous health worker and a government lawyer, it found children had been sexually abused in all 45 remote communities visited. The abusers were both Aborigines and non-Aborigines operating in or near their communities.

The report made 97 recommendations, including boosting procedures for reporting and monitoring offenders, and addressing widespread poverty and alcoholism.

Australia's original inhabitants suffer far higher rates of poverty and substance abuse than the rest of the country's 21 million people, and their life expectancy is 17 years shorter.

For years, white men were banned from marrying Aboriginal woman, and mixed-race children were taken from their Aboriginal mothers to be assimilated into mainstream society.

Though many found employment in the cattle and sheep industries, they were paid less than whites, sometimes working just for rations. Unable to achieve economic independence, many have become welfare dependent.
 

Aussie Pete

Alfrescian
Loyal
Some things never change...........

Australia to ban alcohol for Aborigines

CANBERRA, Australia --Australia's prime minister announced plans Thursday to ban pornography and alcohol for Aborigines in northern areas and tighten control over their welfare benefits to fight child sex abuse among them.

Some Aboriginal leaders rejected the plan as paternalistic and said the measures were discriminatory and would violate the civil rights of the country's original inhabitants. But others applauded the initiative and recommended extending the welfare restrictions to Aborigines in other parts of the country.

Prime Minister John Howard was responding to a report last week that found sexual abuse of children to be rampant in indigenous communities in the Northern Territory. The report said the abuse was fueled by endemic alcohol abuse, unemployment, poverty and other factors causing a breakdown in traditional society.

"This is a national emergency," Howard told Parliament. "We're dealing with a group of young Australians for whom the concept of childhood innocence has never been present."

Howard announced the measures for the Northern Territory, an Outback region where the federal government retains powers it doesn't have over Australia's six states. He urged state leaders to apply similar tough rules in their jurisdictions.

The federal government can change laws in the territory with an act of Parliament, where Howard has a majority that ensures he can implement his policy.

Australia is home to about 400,000 Aborigines. About 60,000 live in the Northern Territory, often in isolated, impoverished communities where jobs are scarce and substance abuse is widespread. The land was returned to them over the past 30 years and accounts for about half the Northern Territory, which is about twice the size of Texas.

The plan angered some Aboriginal leaders, who said it was the kind of government behavior that has disenfranchised Aborigines and created the problems in the first place. They also complained they had not been consulted; the government had not previously indicated it was considering such action.


"I'm absolutely disgusted by this patronizing government control," said Mitch, a member of a government board helping Aborigines who were taken from their parents under past assimilation laws who uses one name. "And tying drinking with welfare payments is just disgusting."

"If they're going to do that, they're going to have to do that with every single person in Australia, not just black people," she said.

Howard said the sale, possession and transportation of alcohol would be banned for six months on the Aboriginal-owned land, after which the policy would be reviewed. The child abuse report found drinking was a key factor in the collapse of Aboriginal culture, contributing to neglect of children and creating opportunities for pedophiles.

Hardcore pornography also would be banned, and publicly funded computers would be audited to ensure that they had not downloaded such images. The report said pornography was rife in Aboriginal communities and that children often were exposed to it.

Under Howard's plan, new restrictions would be placed on welfare payments for Aborigines living on the land to prevent the money from being spent on alcohol and gambling. Parents would be required to spend at least half their welfare on essentials such as food, and payments also would be linked to a child's school attendance.

Howard also called on state governments to send police to the Northern Territory to address a shortage on Aboriginal land there and offered to pay their expenses.

The child abuse report was commissioned by the Northern Territory government and is widely regarded as credible although it attracted some critics. It was unable to quantify the extent of the sexual abuse problem, since anecdotal evidence suggested much of it went unreported.

Conducted by an indigenous health worker and a government lawyer, it found children had been sexually abused in all 45 remote communities visited. The abusers were both Aborigines and non-Aborigines operating in or near their communities.

The report made 97 recommendations, including boosting procedures for reporting and monitoring offenders, and addressing widespread poverty and alcoholism.

Australia's original inhabitants suffer far higher rates of poverty and substance abuse than the rest of the country's 21 million people, and their life expectancy is 17 years shorter.

For years, white men were banned from marrying Aboriginal woman, and mixed-race children were taken from their Aboriginal mothers to be assimilated into mainstream society.

Though many found employment in the cattle and sheep industries, they were paid less than whites, sometimes working just for rations. Unable to achieve economic independence, many have become welfare dependent.
Good on ya Zack.... but good copy and pasting from a layman on this subject - there is much more for you to learn before you'll come close to understanding all the issues. - here's the "Sorry day" schedule from 1998 (I suspect you were still in nappies?) - that was your thread remember - sorry to the lost generation?? Or are trying to cross-pollenate with your overt hatred of Australia and Australians - once again, I'll leave you on this note, because you are just a try-hard.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/special/rsjproject/sorry/schedule.htm

Aside to Ah Guan - I do agree with your suggestion that Rudd's apology could bring an influx of lawsuits (rightly or wrongly). At least someone posts here with some ounce of common sense - MATE :biggrin: take care.
 

Ah Guan

Alfrescian
Loyal
Aside to Ah Guan - I do agree with your suggestion that Rudd's apology could bring an influx of lawsuits (rightly or wrongly). At least someone posts here with some ounce of common sense - MATE :biggrin: take care.


Of course I speak sense.

Like what I said, the white Australians HAVE NEVER supported Rudd's apology. The federal government has always been happy to throw money at the aborigine problem thru the welfare system. And you know better than me how bad the problem is - the Aborigine community is now facing slow extinction thru discrimination, alcoholism and unemployability.

So what do you think is Rudd's real motive for apologising?


Clue: Aborginal land rights to rural mining sites.

And don't hate me now cos I'm only speaking the truth.
 
Top