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Its about time some left wing views are shared:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1909148_1909157_1909647,00.html

At G-8, Obama Avoids Berlusconi's Distractions


This week's Group of 8 summit has turned the world floodlights onto the often grinning mug of Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, the flamboyant billionaire now famous around the globe for his one-liners, presumed private peccadilloes and eternally unresolved conflicts of interest.

Barack Obama's first meeting in Italy, however, was with the other face of Italian politics: President of the Republic Giorgio Napolitano, 84, a soft-spoken veteran of the political left. And perhaps it was inevitable that the praise Obama heaped on Napolitano made most think right away of Berlusconi, who has spent the past two months swatting away questions about his allegedly swinging private life. "I had heard of the wonderful reputation of President Napolitano as somebody who has the admiration of the Italian people not only for his long-standing service but also his integrity and graciousness," Obama said of the largely ceremonial head of state during a brief morning stopover in Rome. "And I just want to confirm everything I have heard about him is true." (See photos from the G-8 summit.)

And what, we can ask, has Obama been hearing about Berlusconi recently? About the Prime Minister's wife of 20 years saying in late April just before filing for divorce that her husband "frequents underage females"; about the photographs published by the Spanish daily El Pais of topless women and a nude man at his villa on the island of Sardinia; about accusations of high-paid prostitutes at Berlusconi's home in Rome on Nov. 4, the night of Obama's historic election victory.

After Berlusconi's rock-solid rapport with President Bush, based largely on his support of the war in Iraq, some have wondered if Obama might have less patience for this atypical ally.

But by the afternoon, following the opening round of G-8 talks on climate change and new ethical standards for global finance, Obama was shoulder to shoulder with a (mostly) somber-faced Berlusconi, touring the historic center of L'Aquila, which was decimated by an April 6 earthquake that killed 297 and left some 50,000 homeless.

As it was a few weeks ago when the Italian leader visited the White House, the body language was that of two best buds, with Berlusconi putting his arm around Obama's back to pose for pictures. At one point Berlusconi surprised his American counterpart by tugging on his elbow to position for photographers. Berlusconi clearly basked in attention meant for Obama, with hundreds of Italians lining the road, waving, cheering and holding up signs. "Yes We Camp," read one message: a play on the Obama campaign slogan and a reference to the thousands of earthquake victims still forced to live in tent cities.

Once the two leaders arrived at a downtown square, Berlusconi showed Obama a series of maps, illustrated in English, that showed which buildings can be salvaged and which are permanently crippled. Italians are hoping all of the G-8 countries will choose from a so-called "shopping list" of damaged heritage sites to help fund their rebuilding.

Berlusconi's last-minute decision to bring the three-day summit to L'Aquila, moving it from its original location on Sardinia to focus attention on the earthquake recovery, was the kind of unorthodox political gesture that can sometimes impress his international counterparts. But it is the other side of Berlusconi's unpredictable nature that increasingly dominates his image and that by some accounts has weakened his role as summit host.

Though the recent focus has been on his private life, Berlusconi's international image is colored by more than just bedroom allegations. He has continued to own Italy's major private television network and exerts great control over the media. An evening press briefing in L'Aquila, where many expected the recent criticisms to be raised, ended abruptly without him taking reporters' questions.

The 72-year-old Prime Minister is also famous — and perhaps fame is above all what he seeks — for his often impolitic comments. Among his recent remarks that stunned the world community came right after Obama's election, when he declared with a wide grin that the incoming America President was "young, handsome and well-tanned." An avalanche of criticism didn't stop Berlusconi, who insists that his remark was meant to be playful, from paraphrasing it again before his Washington trip last month.

Obama, by all accounts, seems unperturbed by this and other Berlusconi missteps. The U.S. Administration says the historically stellar bilateral relations with Italy will not be affected by Berlusconi's extracurricular distractions, and a White House official made a point on Wednesday of praising the Italian prep work for the G-8, following press reports that the hosts had dropped the ball.

Ever pragmatic, Obama appears to be more concerned with what Berlusconi does in Afghanistan (where Italians have one of the strongest troop contingents) and what he says about Iran (where his softer approach is in line with the White House) than what he does and says in Italy.
 

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Obama's role is not to replace Michael Jackson, so personal character or personal background or style is not the important thing. Not at all. Popular speeches etc does not mean that he can lead the world which is the Duty & Commitment. We don't need him to Entertain us, some one ELSE should replace Michael Jackson, not Obama. :wink:

Entertaining speeches and concepts are USELESS. Only solutions and results matter. At G8 Obama is not doing more than Ronald MacDonald - popular yes, people cheer yes. But Ronald MacDonald at least offers jobs and food. What is there from Obama? What is the Economy Saving Resolution at G8? What is Environmental Solution Agreed at G8? What is the Security Strategy Adopted at G8?

Only crap!@?#

World economy is still hungry, USA itself is still exporting Crisis and problems, US$ is still fucked up, Obama is still exporting war in Afghan and Pakistan civilians are still being killed by Obama's missiles, Obama is still trying sell bonds and ask for $$$$ from every country. Environmental crisis still worsening daily. Nuclear warheads & missiles still flying out from North Korea. Iran is nothing better.

Obama is smiling on camera and luring unfounded cheers, like a star? Is he replacement for Michael Jackson or Ronald MacDonald?

:confused::confused::confused::mad:
 

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World economy is still hungry, USA itself is still exporting Crisis and problems, US$ is still fucked up, Obama is still exporting war in Afghan and Pakistan civilians are still being killed by Obama's missiles, Obama is still trying sell bonds and ask for $$$$ from every country. Environmental crisis still worsening daily. Nuclear warheads & missiles still flying out from North Korea. Iran is nothing better.

Obama is smiling on camera and luring unfounded cheers, like a star? Is he replacement for Michael Jackson or Ronald MacDonald?

:confused::confused::confused::mad:

You are confuse one......world economy hungry is blamed on globalization. last time world economy crash not USA fault you also forget last currency crisis not USA one was Asia. Without US of A Singapore sure die our export all stop Singapore crash no ship coming anymore no one buying USA so china no exporting all world trade stop. U talking cock

Civilian being killed by obama.....he dont start the war in first place cannot simply pull out of afganistan & iraq overnight must do with security in place. u kenna place blame on man who take over only 6 month when sept 11 happen 8 year ago.

*****shake head ********shake head******
 

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You are confuse one......world economy hungry is blamed on globalization. last time world economy crash not USA fault you also forget last currency crisis not USA one was Asia. Without US of A Singapore sure die our export all stop Singapore crash no ship coming anymore no one buying USA so china no exporting all world trade stop. U talking cock

Civilian being killed by obama.....he dont start the war in first place cannot simply pull out of afganistan & iraq overnight must do with security in place. u kenna place blame on man who take over only 6 month when sept 11 happen 8 year ago.

*****shake head ********shake head******
:p

I am not confused at all but you are totally naive and ignorant.

Looking at USA as a market is an outdated idea.

Who needs a market that is Unable to PAY for your supplies?

The Americans all fully willing to buy everything from everywhere on indefinitely looooooooooong credits. Their great great grandchildren Might pay back to their suppliers great great grandchildren. Might not pay at all, like Brazil asking debtors to write off debts as usual.

Are you a charity? NKF?

Singapore should be a neglect-able part of the picture because it is a tiny red dot.

For China the largest market is ITSELF not USA. Domestic market for China is larger than Any Export market the world can offer. If Chinese wants a large export market it should look for India, at least India don't owe debt as badly as USA.

Previous economic crisis are NOT the current subject. They are the past although the past financial crisis was created by Americans such as George Solos. The Current crisis's source is USA. Madoff is American, Lehman Brothers American too. The on going wars are American wars. The globe's environmental damages are largely caused by Americans. Atomic bombs and DDT and many other lethal pollutants and threats are products of the USA.

The hypocritical bastard singing & selling Freedom & Democracy & Human Rights was well as VIOLATED them in the World Worst Ways are none other than Americans. Al Qaeda & Osama & Taliban were monsters produced by USA to war Soviets in Afghan. North Korea is the product of General McArthor or else today there will be only a single Korea instead of a North-South divided crisis.

Only good thing that came out of USA are PCs & Internet. The rest are :



*****shake head ********shake head******
 

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I am not confused at all but you are totally naive and ignorant.

Looking at USA as a market is an outdated idea.

Who needs a market that is Unable to PAY for your supplies?

The Americans all fully willing to buy everything from everywhere on indefinitely looooooooooong credits. Their great great grandchildren Might pay back to their suppliers great great grandchildren. Might not pay at all, like Brazil asking debtors to write off debts as usual.

Are you a charity? NKF?

Singapore should be a neglect-able part of the picture because it is a tiny red dot.

For China the largest market is ITSELF not USA. Domestic market for China is larger than Any Export market the world can offer. If Chinese wants a large export market it should look for India, at least India don't owe debt as badly as USA.

Previous economic crisis are NOT the current subject. They are the past although the past financial crisis was created by Americans such as George Solos. The Current crisis's source is USA. Madoff is American, Lehman Brothers American too. The on going wars are American wars. The globe's environmental damages are largely caused by Americans. Atomic bombs and DDT and many other lethal pollutants and threats are products of the USA.

The hypocritical bastard singing & selling Freedom & Democracy & Human Rights was well as VIOLATED them in the World Worst Ways are none other than Americans. Al Qaeda & Osama & Taliban were monsters produced by USA to war Soviets in Afghan. North Korea is the product of General McArthor or else today there will be only a single Korea instead of a North-South divided crisis.

Only good thing that came out of USA are PCs & Internet. The rest are :

You are incorrect. Just ask MAS who is responsible for last currency crisis. Malaysia might blame Soros but go ask MAS who made billions at our neighbor's expense. Look closer to home before you place the blame.

The USA is still the most powerful nation in the world and the US economy is still the largest.

Its also the most successful nation in modern times. The cold war was the most peaceful time in human history. Less wars were fought in the cold war than any other according to history. And the best thing is America never wanted to involved itself in matters of the outside world. America has always adopted a policy of isolationism and never wanted to enter world affairs before during and after both world wars. The entire free world would disagree with you over korea as containment against communism was the goal of america and europe.

Muslim fanatics who are jealous of the might and wealth of the America is responsible for Sept 11 and the subsequent mess of the world economy, and wars in iraq and afghanistan.

blaming america is just like blaming our system of government, free enterprise, and pursuit of freedom. any other hedgemonic world power would suffer similar issues.

whatever the situation, most people in the world dont share your views. only people who dont eat pork and sit in caves and grow long beards and happily kill each other do. if you are a camel riding jihadi, take your views elsewhere.
 

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You are incorrect. Just ask MAS who is responsible for last currency crisis. Malaysia might blame Soros but go ask MAS who made billions at our neighbor's expense. Look closer to home before you place the blame.

The USA is still the most powerful nation in the world and the US economy is still the largest.

Its also the most successful nation in modern times. The cold war was the most peaceful time in human history. Less wars were fought in the cold war than any other according to history. And the best thing is America never wanted to involved itself in matters of the outside world. America has always adopted a policy of isolationism and never wanted to enter world affairs before during and after both world wars. The entire free world would disagree with you over korea as containment against communism was the goal of america and europe.

Muslim fanatics who are jealous of the might and wealth of the America is responsible for Sept 11 and the subsequent mess of the world economy, and wars in iraq and afghanistan.

blaming america is just like blaming our system of government, free enterprise, and pursuit of freedom. any other hedgemonic world power would suffer similar issues.

whatever the situation, most people in the world dont share your views. only people who dont eat pork and sit in caves and grow long beards and happily kill each other do. if you are a camel riding jihadi, take your views elsewhere.

MAS has very little part in Asia Financial Crisis. I am not defending them at all. They are greedy bastards through & through. But THEY ARE JUST A TINY RED DOT IN ASIA, PERIOD.

USA had a big hand in the last round of Asian Financial Crisis. But that is already over. This is a totally different round now.

USA is the CORE of Crisis in this round.

Wall Street as well as most economists already admitted that US's days as largest economy of the world is numbered, if not already over. China or India are taking over from the US as the world's largest economy, this was originally (in 90s) predicted to be in 2030, but now had advanced by a great leap, since Bush brought the wars and Obama enlarged the fire set by Bush.

The original prediction did not take into account of the present scenario and assumed a gradual and natural decline of US economy, it is declining sharply and sinking like a rock to bottomless abyss right now.

Muslims are not at fault. Bush's foolish greed with personal oil interest had enriched the Arabs in the recent years, and still going on. Hundred over dollars a barrel, 50-60 dollars now.... very lucrative! Thanks for the money Allah!They will buy arms and fund holly wars.

People's view are unimportant. If dinosaurs were still around they might also have their own views and dreams, but too bad! The reality is reality, brutally and firmly, evolution and revolution will take thier causes, without taking people views into account.

People's views are naive and stupid. The Titanic was thought to be unsinkable. The polar ice caps were not imagined to be melting. The British Empire was not to be shaken by anything. All were strongly but falsely and popularly believed by well educated people, but that does not matter at all. Facts will brutally prove people wrong, you can not reject it nor ignore it.:p
 

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MAS has very little part in Asia Financial Crisis. I am not defending them at all. They are greedy bastards through & through. But THEY ARE JUST A TINY RED DOT IN ASIA, PERIOD.

USA had a big hand in the last round of Asian Financial Crisis. But that is already over. This is a totally different round now.

USA is the CORE of Crisis in this round.

Wall Street as well as most economists already admitted that US's days as largest economy of the world is numbered, if not already over. China or India are taking over from the US as the world's largest economy, this was originally (in 90s) predicted to be in 2030, but now had advanced by a great leap, since Bush brought the wars and Obama enlarged the fire set by Bush.

The original prediction did not take into account of the present scenario and assumed a gradual and natural decline of US economy, it is declining sharply and sinking like a rock to bottomless abyss right now.

Muslims are not at fault. Bush's foolish greed with personal oil interest had enriched the Arabs in the recent years, and still going on. Hundred over dollars a barrel, 50-60 dollars now.... very lucrative! Thanks for the money Allah!They will buy arms and fund holly wars.

People's view are unimportant. If dinosaurs were still around they might also have their own views and dreams, but too bad! The reality is reality, brutally and firmly, evolution and revolution will take thier causes, without taking people views into account.

People's views are naive and stupid. The Titanic was thought to be unsinkable. The polar ice caps were not imagined to be melting. The British Empire was not to be shaken by anything. All were strongly but falsely and popularly believed by well educated people, but that does not matter at all. Facts will brutally prove people wrong, you can not reject it nor ignore it.:p

Asian currency crisis - you are completely wrong. MAS is one of the major contributors towards the crisis. Other names are Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank on behalf of institutions. You really do not know what you are talking about. USA IS NOT THE CAUSE OF THE ASIAN CURRENCY CRISIS!

What a load of Muslim rhetoric. We who are in the know are fully aware the current crisis is linked to Sept 11 when Greenspan was forced to lower interest rates to 1% precipitating wanton causing a boom in housing US from 2002 to 2007 in the world's largest economy. Another major contributor is China, for hoarding reserves and purchasing on such a scale that interest rates were also kept artificially low precipitating the largest housing boom in Australia, Ireland, the EU including Spain, the UK and the US.

You are obviously not informed. The credit default swap was born on fleet street in London not Wall st. Wall St just packaged it and sold it to banks in Asia, Europe and America itself. Many of the banks and people affected are not even American! You want capitalism without consequence then you introduce regulation but history and time has shown regulation to be incompatible with lassiez fare free market trade. The UK, the US, Europe all denounce regulation so the blame, if any is to be apportioned to the CDO crisis on of capitalism. Singapore figures in this list. Singapore's free market system is no different that wall st, and Singapore has had its fair share of free market unfettered capitalism issues.

Critics place the blame on Sept 11 as the world has never faced a crisis before of this magnitude. Sept 11 and the Muslim crazies are what has set up the whole problem in the first place as the subsequent shock waves has taken 7-8 years to be fully felt in the economic cycle. Unfettered capitalism on Fleet St as well as Wall St are the epicenters as London is now the world's banking capital and Wall St is the world's largest.

High oil prices. Please ask China to stop importing such large quantities and please ask Societe Generale in France, Barclays in London, and other countless institutions worldwide to stop purchasing ETFs that invest in oil as 60% of high oil prices were attributed to insititutional investors and hedge funds including those located in Singapore.

I am starting to suspect you are a bearded Muslim fanatic. Every Issue you have raised points to Sept 11 and subsequent consequences of our free market capitalist system. You have left out the UK, the European nations, Australia, etc. If you don't like our system, you can move to a cave and join the Muslim fanatics or you can be a communist.

Or better yet you can join the democrats and moderate republicans who are as sick and tired of unfettered capitalism and therefore elected Mr Barack Obama to fix Mr Bush's constant refusal to regulate capital markets. We all know where that got us.....
 

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Obama fail.

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Asian currency crisis - you are completely wrong. MAS is one of the major contributors towards the crisis. Other names are Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank on behalf of institutions. You really do not know what you are talking about. USA IS NOT THE CAUSE OF THE ASIAN CURRENCY CRISIS!

What a load of Muslim rhetoric. We who are in the know are fully aware the current crisis is linked to Sept 11 when Greenspan was forced to lower interest rates to 1% precipitating wanton causing a boom in housing US from 2002 to 2007 in the world's largest economy. Another major contributor is China, for hoarding reserves and purchasing on such a scale that interest rates were also kept artificially low precipitating the largest housing boom in Australia, Ireland, the EU including Spain, the UK and the US.

You are obviously not informed. The credit default swap was born on fleet street in London not Wall st. Wall St just packaged it and sold it to banks in Asia, Europe and America itself. Many of the banks and people affected are not even American! You want capitalism without consequence then you introduce regulation but history and time has shown regulation to be incompatible with lassiez fare free market trade. The UK, the US, Europe all denounce regulation so the blame, if any is to be apportioned to the CDO crisis on of capitalism. Singapore figures in this list. Singapore's free market system is no different that wall st, and Singapore has had its fair share of free market unfettered capitalism issues.

Critics place the blame on Sept 11 as the world has never faced a crisis before of this magnitude. Sept 11 and the Muslim crazies are what has set up the whole problem in the first place as the subsequent shock waves has taken 7-8 years to be fully felt in the economic cycle. Unfettered capitalism on Fleet St as well as Wall St are the epicenters as London is now the world's banking capital and Wall St is the world's largest.

High oil prices. Please ask China to stop importing such large quantities and please ask Societe Generale in France, Barclays in London, and other countless institutions worldwide to stop purchasing ETFs that invest in oil as 60% of high oil prices were attributed to insititutional investors and hedge funds including those located in Singapore.

I am starting to suspect you are a bearded Muslim fanatic. Every Issue you have raised points to Sept 11 and subsequent consequences of our free market capitalist system. You have left out the UK, the European nations, Australia, etc. If you don't like our system, you can move to a cave and join the Muslim fanatics or you can be a communist.

Or better yet you can join the democrats and moderate republicans who are as sick and tired of unfettered capitalism and therefore elected Mr Barack Obama to fix Mr Bush's constant refusal to regulate capital markets. We all know where that got us.....

You forgot to mention the US$ dollar. Bernanke does not want a strong dollar with the Fed funds rate at 0 right now but look at the strength of the US dollar in 2009

When panic in markets in Tokyo, Hong Kong, markets worldwide unloaded and sought refuge in the US$ - the economist called it "flight to safety"

That is why US is still King.
 
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