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Arrest of 3 'racist' youths an over-kill

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February 6, 2010 by admin
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http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/02/06/arrest-of-three-youths-for-posting-racist-remarks-on-facebook-who-is-a-greater-threat-to-social-harmony/


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The arrest of three Chinese youths aged between 17 and 18 for posting “racist” remarks on Facebook by the Singapore police is another over-kill by an increasingly insecure and paranoid regime.
They are likely to be charged under the Sedition Act, under which anyone found guilty of promoting feelings of ill will and hostility between different races or classes of the Singapore population shall be liable, on conviction for a first offence, to a fine not exceeding $5,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or both.
Commander of Bedok Police Division and Deputy Assistant Commissioner of Police Teo Chun Ching said:
“Police take a very stern view of acts that could threaten the social harmony in Singapore. The Internet may be a convenient medium to express one’s views but members of the public should bear in mind that they are no less accountable for their actions online.”
While the exact “racist” remarks were not published, they are highly unlikely to stir any racial unrest in Singapore. The “racist” Facebook has been around for quite sometime and nobody has taken notice of it till a police report was lodged last week.
A more appropriate and sensible response would be to send the three youths for counselling and let them off with a stern warning rather than to ruin their futures altogether with a conviction – the potential threat to social harmony in Singapore is so low that it doesn’t warrant criminalizing it.
In all likelihood, the arrests is probably a scare-tactic used to intimidate online critics of the ruling party who have claimed a few “casualties” lately in the protracted flame war between YPAP and the rest of Singapore’s blogosphere, thereby damaging the reputation of the former.
There is a fine line between blatant, dangerous and bigoted racism which will affect the larger society than the mild form of “racism” pervasive in some internet chatrooms amounting to no more than mere exchange of jokes between netizens.
The authorities should be discerning enough to decide when action is warranted instead of jumping at every single whiff of “racism”. The three Chinese youth are unlikely to have any influence on the rest of society other than their own inner circle of “converts”.
After fifty years of nation-building, most Singaporeans have come to see themselves more as Singaporeans than ethnic Chinese, Indians or Malays. We are Singaporeans first and ethnicity comes a distant second.
Though the PAP government must be credited with maintaining social, racial and religious harmony in Singapore, recent public comments made by some leaders may have a polarizing effect among the different races in Singapore.
The words of these leaders carry far greater weight than the three Singapore youth and therefore the threat of posed by their words on social harmony is greater.
Some policies are also deemed discriminatory to the ethnic minorities and can well sow the seeds of distrust among them. For example, the influx of large number of new immigrants from mainland China who cannot speak English may cause some discomfort to our fellow Malay and Indian Singaporeans.
Being a small multi-cultural society, Singapore cannot take racial harmony for granted. The authorities should focus more on cleaning up their own backyard rather than to make a mountain out of a molehill of isolated cases as such.
The real threat to social harmony in Singapore stems from the words and actions of its leaders and not the childish antics of a few immature, disgruntled and ignorant netizens.
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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>2:30 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (3 of 11) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>28238.3 in reply to 28238.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt><LI id=comment-70193 class=alt>Police Warnings on Sat, 6th Feb 2010 4:11 pm
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The remarks of the police in the arrest of the three youths brings some interesting questions.
“Under the Sedition Act, anyone found guilty of promoting feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore can be fined up to $5,000 or jailed up to three years, or both, if convicted.”
So will the police arrest anyone who criticize the ruling class, since it definitely will cause ill feelings toward the ruling class?
“‘Police take a very stern view of acts that could threaten the social harmony in Singapore.”
So will disagreeing with the regime’s foreign talents and HDB policies , be considered threatening the social harmony in Singapore?
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4adcca49b3b1e5a08ac202f5d5a9e688

The remarks of the police in the arrest of the three youths brings some interesting questions.
“Under the Sedition Act, anyone found guilty of promoting feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore can be fined up to $5,000 or jailed up to three years, or both, if convicted.”
So will the police arrest anyone who criticize the ruling class, since it definitely will cause ill feelings toward the ruling class?
“‘Police take a very stern view of acts that could threaten the social harmony in Singapore.”
So will disagreeing with the regime’s foreign talents and HDB policies , be considered threatening the social harmony in Singapore?
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<!--PostMsgHTML--><SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--if (adPosition == 3){ GA_googleFillSlot("DF_ROS_inline_BTF_1"); }//--></SCRIPT><!--/PostMsgHTML--><TABLE class=msgtablealt cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>2:31 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (4 of 11) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>28238.4 in reply to 28238.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt><LI id=comment-70216 class=alt>antipolitics on Sat, 6th Feb 2010 5:16 pm
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A totally bogus, defective law found only in NWO police states.
” guilty of promoting feelings of ill will and hostility between different races or classes of the Singapore population shall be liable”.
Let’s be honest how can anyone satisfactorily define what are “promoting feelings of ill will and hostility ” or what are “different races or classes” ?
How can it be left to some idiot bureaucrat to decide? he himself may have prejudices by which he is all too willing to abuse his powers. This has happened so and it won’t be the 1st time .
I have seen many a non Chinese PC seemingly pulling up only MY Chinese at the border. Why ?? are all MY Chinese suspects ?
Surely at least some baddies might be of the Malay, Indian lain lain variety? So why are they treated like saints ?
In most reasonable people’s view this much more likely to be ” promoting ill feelings etc ” than some stupid obscure facebook.
This is out in the open and I know that thousands if not 10’s of thousands of local working class Chinese are not happy about their relatives being singled out for no reason.
As is the case of the banking industry where local and foreign citizens of one certain S.Asian country, it seems are systematically purging their company’s of Chinese men.
Why isn’t this called racist ??
So come on, SG is a tiny place, any crowd unrest can be easily snuffed unless it is deliberately allowed to go on.
Also I disagree that just cause you feel proud to be xxxx race, does not mean that you automatically dislike other races – that’s a typical Western view that some great leaders have tried to ram down our throats. Its bullshit.
Regular Chinese don’t feel that way.
Why must we forgo our culture, history and traditions for a pseudo Western society that doesn’t work anyway.
We should be proud that we upholding a great 5000 yo tradition, even moreso than the PRC !
If we are saying that some people (of all races) want to throw away their own culture and race to become this pseudo society, what does that say about them ?
is it not a statement of racism to dislike and disrespect your own people ?
This is seditious …. surely !
SGreans are known for our naivete, though things have improved, we need to think logically – THERE IS NOTHING WRONG OR AGGRESSIVE IN BEING PROUD OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
Don’t fall into the politicians trap of WHATEVER label.
Otherwise we may wake up day and we will be banned for Chinese or whatever
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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"></TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>2:32 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right>(5 of 11) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"></TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>28238.5 in reply to 28238.3 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt><LI id=comment-70221 class=alt>Might be a Racist on Sat, 6th Feb 2010 5:35 pm
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We shall not hurt the feelings of our dear FT no more.
We must sing phrases for ALL the actions fo FTs.
We must welcome all our FTs from China, India, Burma, Ceylon with open arms and open legs.
We must share our home, our wives, our daughters with all those FT men who are so far away from their loving wives.
Long live the FT and don’t forget yo thank those job advertisment to remind all dear Singaporeans directly and in directly NO to apply.

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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>madmansg <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>4:31 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (6 of 11) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>28238.6 in reply to 28238.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>nothing can stir up racist anger more than the PAP ruining our country with wholesale import of indians. Dont believe me , just take the NE MRT line. At times , 80 percent of the passengers are indians.

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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>fixncc <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>3:12 pm </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (10 of 11) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>28238.10 in reply to 28238.9 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>This is to kill the chicken to show the rest who's boss. The laws in SG can be bent whichever way according to the whims of those in charge and if you're one of the elites you can get away with statements below despite having enraged the locals such as:
calling non-elite locals lesser mortals
calling locals with ancestors who have gathered less positive karma donkeys
and of course the very famous one who said native Singaporeans are falling behind because "the spurs are not stuck into the hide, that is their problem" rather than OUR problem which is obvious that he sees himself in a separate class of citizens from the rest...

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This is to kill the chicken to show the rest who's boss.

Whatever it may be it sure is peaceful once you scare the chickens. I haven't been bothered by the mindless rantings of SIFU, Angelo, Jah_Rastafar, my other clone Yellow People since the arrest of the 3 Bengs.
 
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