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Are Singaporeans really intolerant?

littlefish

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It is my belief that if you replace all the foreigners with Singaporeans, you will still have the same level of unhappiness except that it will be harder to pinpoint a particular segment of the population.

It is the massive artificial increase in population, coupled with the lack of resources and a little more recently, the drastically reduced job opportunities that is the actual cause of the wrath of people. Foreigners' behaviour plays only a small part and it is perceived as a huge problem only because of the numerous foreigners on the island (i.e. you will still be hearing complaints about boorish behaviour if you replace every foreigner with a true-blue Singaporean).

The strategy being pursued now is exactly the same as that more than four decades ago, that is, supplying cheap labour to MNCs. There are some slight differences but by and large, it remains identical in spirit. The major difference is that previously, Singaporeans were the cheap labour. Now, it comes from other countries. Will this strategy continue to work in the future? It depends on who you are. If you are the average Singaporean peasant, I am highly doubtful if your standard of living would improve much henceforth. Even if living standards in countries like China improve tremendously, yours will still remain mired at current levels because the cheap labour will simply be sourced from elsewhere (there will always be some place cheaper).

Opening the floodgates before ensuring that Singaporeans' have a first world mentality has doomed the country to be forever intolerant of foreigners and I can't imagine how it can ever expect to become first world. The FT policy has provided a revolving door where there will constantly be huge numbers of foreigners coming and leaving. There is no way you can even build a cohesive society much less talk about integrating foreigners into the population. Soon (assuming increases in population are mostly due to foreigners arriving), there will be absolutely no difference in behaviour between an average peasant in Singapore and his/her counterpart in some impoverished nation.
 

scroobal

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If you are suggesting that pop of 4.4 m are all singaporeans and that the level of unhappiness will remain the same without foreigners, have to disagree.

The issues are jobs to stay alive, opportunities for growth, a decent home and an identifiable culture where bonding can occur across lines of common interest. The moment Singaporeans have access to all these, the apprehension and fear dissipates.

Why would the unhappiness be the same. It just be an overcrowded country and we will be asking them to build more homes, roads etc.

Opening the floodgates before ensuring that Singaporeans' have a first world mentality has doomed the country to be forever intolerant of foreigners and I can't imagine how it can ever expect to become first world. .
 

pia

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Xenophobia will happen if any indigenous people feel that foreigners in their land are benefiting unfairly from them, even in 1st world countries.
 

jw5

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Some of the unhappiness will be the same, some will not be there.
The former will include overcrowding, competition for jobs and other resources, more opportunities to encounter anti social and inconsiderate behaviour.
The latter will include the resentment of someone coming from a foreign land, the resentment that these people have not done national service and some of the "unique" behaviour that they bring with them.
 

littlefish

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If you are suggesting that pop of 4.4 m are all singaporeans and that the level of unhappiness will remain the same without foreigners, have to disagree.

The issues are jobs to stay alive, opportunities for growth, a decent home and an identifiable culture where bonding can occur across lines of common interest. The moment Singaporeans have access to all these, the apprehension and fear dissipates.

Why would the unhappiness be the same. It just be an overcrowded country and we will be asking them to build more homes, roads etc.

No, what I meant is if the number of job opportunities and resources remain the same. Assume for a moment that we are all recent immigrants to Singapore and declared ourselves a new country (let's say all of us were born overseas). If there is a sudden influx of foreigners in the next 20 years to make up to 33% of the population, do you think there will be no widespread resentment even if the foreigners hail from the same countries?

The important point is that we are not a colony, we have declared ourselves as citizens of the new country. I will bet you the unhappiness level will be the same. It is not as if Singapore is the size of Australia or even NZ.

My view is that we are focusing on their behaviour because that is the most distinguishing feature between them and us. The main problem is the lack of resources, land, job opportunities, etc, and hence the intense competition and stress, not because there is a huge influx. If Singapore is the size of Australia (and assuming they don't all converge on one location), I am not sure if the issue would still be as objectionable. Sure, there will probably be some discrimination and jokes made against them but I would think not with the current scale of unhappiness.
 

soIsee

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The Pappy original plan was to admit only talented first class FTs.

This was to ensure that Sinkies learn from them, pick up the first class manners from them and if possible copulate with them!

But with the fast declining birth rate ( especially for the Chinks) showing no hope of improvement, Old Fart and his minions hatched upon a plan to admit more Chinks ( in PRC format) with or without talent.

If the PRCs are insufficient , they will accept the Viet , Mynmar or any chinese looking FTs will do!

Next, they'll even accept the Indians to even up the odds. Not doing the above , they are afraid the percentage of m&ds will out run and out produce the other races!

It's a damn desperate move by them, which not to my surprise, had produced an unintended result with future consequences!
 

SamuelStalin

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I have already told you people time and again that Singaporeans are Sporn fucks through and through.

Yes, Sporn fucks. See, I am the only one who is objective and straightforward enough to say this. You people fool yourselves, or play pretend about this true identity, using online terms like Sinkees, Sporns, Sillyporeans, Silliporeans, etc.

Sporn fucks, Singafucks. You bastard evil rude ogs. I am laughing and feeling sad at the same time when typing this revelation to all of you.

All Sporn fucks must get the rfid microchip in their brains. That would make me feel even more happy and safe.

FUCK YOU SINGAPOREANS!!! FUCK YOU!!!! SPORN FUCKS!!!! DIE SPORN FUCKS!!!!! YOU BASTARD SINGAFUCKS!!!!!!!
 

pallkia

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The Pappy original plan was to admit only talented first class FTs.

This was to ensure that Sinkies learn from them, pick up the first class manners from them and if possible copulate with them!

But with the fast declining birth rate ( especially for the Chinks) showing no hope of improvement, Old Fart and his minions hatched upon a plan to admit more Chinks ( in PRC format) with or without talent.

If the PRCs are insufficient , they will accept the Viet , Mynmar or any chinese looking FTs will do!

Next, they'll even accept the Indians to even up the odds. Not doing the above , they are afraid the percentage of m&ds will out run and out produce the other races!

It's a damn desperate move by them, which not to my surprise, had produced an unintended result with future consequences!


Honestly,Practically and Technically speaking ,pls reply me deep inside yr heart,if Singapore's population is 78% Mat or Indian,what do you think S'pore will be like?Like Jakarta or Mumbai standard?Or Tokyo or Hong Kong standard?
 

pia

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Honestly,Practically and Technically speaking ,pls reply me deep inside yr heart,if Singapore's population is 78% Mat or Indian,what do you think S'pore will be like?Like Jakarta or Mumbai standard?Or Tokyo or Hong Kong standard?

The Indians will cry foul by what you say. They wil say they are the greatest people on the face of the earth. Just that they are let down by their poor people :confused:
 

SamuelStalin

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The Indians will cry foul by what you say. They wil say they are the greatest people on the face of the earth. Just that they are let down by their poor people :confused:

They may say they are good, but when the British step in, they would proclaim that their British masters are far better.
 
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