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Another new way to tekan Singapore men

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Acting Manpower Minister Tan Chuan-Jin said today in Parliament that Singaporeans will be able to make cash or CPF to-ups to the accounts of parents-in-law and grandparents-in-law.

In moving the second reading of changes to the CPF Act, Minister Tan said the changes to the Minimum Sum Topping-Up Scheme (MTSU) come in response to feedback to an operational experience of the CPF Board.

The MTSU, which currently covers parents, grandparents, spouse and siblings, was introduced to help Singaporeans contribute to the retirement savings of their loved ones.

They can do so by topping up their CPF Special Account (SA) or Retirement Account (RA).

From January 1, 2013, this will now be extended to include parents-in-law and grandparents-in-law.

Other changes to CPF rules include, simplifying the channels for making top-ups to a member's own SA and RA and introducing a minimum age of 16 when making CPF nominations.

The Ministry also refined the current housing refund policy for CPF funds.

Minister Tan said that the new policy will ensure that CPF housing refunds are consistent with the amounts contributed by each co-owner to the property.

At the same time, it will not require older members to retain in their CPF more refunds than necessary.

Currently, members who sell their property before age 55 are required to refund into their CPF account the principal amount that they withdrew for the property, including the prevailing Ordinary Account (OA) interest that would have accrued on this amount, or P+I in short.

At age 55, a member is required to set aside the Minimum Sum (MS) from his existing CPF balances, and he may withdraw his CPF savings in excess of the MS after having also set aside the required amount in his Medisave Account for his healthcare needs.

So when a member sells his property after age 55, only the amount needed to bring the member up to his MS must be refunded.

"In other words, for a member who sells his property after age 55, he will refund his MS shortfall or his P+I, whichever is lower. Remaining proceeds from the sale of his property is received in cash," outlined Minister Tan.

He pointed out that while the current refund rules for members over 55 avoid collection of housing refunds in excess of MS, there may be certain scenarios involving more than one co-owner, where the refunds required of the co-owners may not match the amount of CPF each co-owner used to pay for that property.

When this arises, co-owners can decide to distribute the cash proceeds among themselves such that the total of the cash proceeds and CPF refunds for each co-owner matches the amount that each co-owner had contributed towards payment of the property.

"However, where the co-owners are no longer on good terms, the distribution of cash proceeds becomes more contentious and the co-owners may not always be willing to consider the amount that the other party has contributed towards the property," he said.

He added that in cases where the property is sold at a loss and there may not be any cash proceeds for distribution, the current housing refund requirements may create some unhappiness among members.

In addressing this issue, all members, regardless of their age, will be required to refund their P+I. This refinement will ensure co-owners receive CPF refunds that are commensurate with their usage of CPF savings for the property.

Where the P+I refund exceeds the MS shortfall for members aged 55 and above, the refunded amount will first be used to set aside their cohort Minimum Sum in their RA and the required Medisave amount in their MA, while the excess can be withdrawn.

"This is no different from the existing requirement that applies to all members past age 55 who wish to withdraw their OA and SA savings in excess of the MS," he said.

All changes will take effect from January 1, 2013.
 
just return me the CPF monies, and screw the CPF LIFE scheme.
 
What's the point of shuffling pennies around. None of these changes are going to help you achieve a quantum leap when it comes to your finances.

Sinkies should just write off everything that ends up in CPF. Treat anything you get out of the scheme as a bonus.

In the meantime, set your mind to achieving financial independence before the age of 40. You'll be thankful you did.
 
just return me the CPF monies, and screw the CPF LIFE scheme.
Yo, blxxdy el cheapo financing of grand schemes at our expense:( Goes beyond benign autocracy that we (mostly) cannot handle withdrawals
 
What's the point of shuffling pennies around. None of these changes are going to help you achieve a quantum leap when it comes to your finances.

Sinkies should just write off everything that ends up in CPF. Treat anything you get out of the scheme as a bonus.

In the meantime, set your mind to achieving financial independence before the age of 40. You'll be thankful you did.

You're wrong.

The Sinkie should get the fuck outta there and take back all that was and is theirs instead of hoping to see what bonus, if any, would even drop out.

Just like you.

Without even any starting bankroll, the Sinkie can't achieive ANY financial independence.

Or so you didn't learn that as in your case, meh?:D
 
And one more thing that was so clear to me but not to most Sinkie.

They themselves have got NOT enough funds of their own to fund their own retirement , years from now.

So what's there to top up for their kins?
 
hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. plenty sheep do not even have enough to feed themselves or to go around.
3. as if in-laws have kosong children or resources to tie things over!
 
"Where the P+I refund exceeds the MS shortfall for members aged 55 and above, the refunded amount will first be used to set aside their cohort Minimum Sum in their RA and the required Medisave amount in their MA, while the excess can be withdrawn. "This is no different from the existing requirement that applies to all members past age 55 who wish to withdraw their OA and SA savings in excess of the MS," he said. All changes will take effect from January 1, 2013. " quote

We saw this coming, thanks to the 60%, we now can not touch our blood sweat & tears money in our CPF accounts when we retire...it will be pushed, further, further & further away from us. Why are we allowing this? I can never understand!. it is my hard earned money...when I retire or sell my flat, it is my hard earn money...wtf!
 
Looks like a parents-in-law and grandparents-in-law maintenance act is not far away. :D
 
Acting Manpower Minister Tan Chuan-Jin said today in Parliament that Singaporeans will be able to make cash or CPF to-ups to the accounts of parents-in-law and grandparents-in-law.

No marriage = no in-laws. Problem solved.

Oh, and don't forget the additional perk of being spared from the hassle of attending/organizing a few more funeral wakes.
Or if they're in poor health or suffering of dementia, you have to chip in your part to take care of them.

Anything else, ex-SAF scholar trash?

tanchuanjin.jpg
 
Gov try to con peasant.
If top up for every $ gov will top up same amount then talk. If not tell them keep their mouth shut.
 
So whats next? sister, bro in-law all can top up?
 
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No marriage = no in-laws. Problem solved.

Oh, and don't forget the additional perk of being spared from the hassle of attending/organizing a few more funeral wakes.
Or if they're in poor health or suffering of dementia, you have to chip in your part to take care of them.

Anything else, ex-SAF scholar trash?

tanchuanjin.jpg

Are the Jumps wings pinned on the right, IDF (Israeli Defence Force) Parachute wings?
 
So whats next? sister, bro in-law all can top up?

You have 4 wives, you have 5 in-laws..that is a lot of top ups...now you know why we will never see our CPF money anymore...please SINgaporeans PLease wake up!
 
The sole-bread winner in an extended family will be pressurised to contribute. The stress level will shoot up and he may not live beyond 62 years old. More money channelled to CPF.
 
Yo, blxxdy el cheapo financing of grand schemes at our expense:( Goes beyond benign autocracy that we (mostly) cannot handle withdrawals

Yes you are correct. At the same time make those 60.1% feel song that they can 'withdraw' CPF.
Less than 300 per month and only for those truly old ones then can actually touch this money.
 
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