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Angry Chiam demands MM and SM owes the public an explanation

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SPP, SDP criticise timing of announcement
By Tessa Wong

TWO opposition parties have criticised Singapore's two former prime ministers for the timing of the announcement that they are leaving the Cabinet.

Said Mr Chiam See Tong, secretary-general of the Singapore People's Party (SPP): 'The question is: Why now, and not five years later? I think MM and SM owe an explanation to the public on this point.'

It is the 'fair' thing to do, Mr Chiam added, arguing that the outcome of the polls would probably have been different if voters had known before the election that Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, 69, and Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, 87, were planning to step down as ministers.


His party would probably have won in Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC, he said, and added: 'In Marine Parade, they would not have gotten in if Goh Chok Tong was stepping down.'

Mr Goh's People's Action Party team won the GRC, beating a National Solidarity Party team.

Like many Singaporeans, Mr Chiam was taken by surprise when he heard the news, he told reporters at an SPP event in Bishan Park.

On Saturday, about a week after the election, SM Goh and MM Lee announced their desire to depart, so as to give Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his team a 'fresh, clean slate' to carry Singapore forward.

At a separate event in Ghim Moh, a member of the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) who contested in the recent polls called on PM Lee to be 'fair' to voters by holding by-elections in the GRCs helmed by the two ministers.

Said Mr Tan Jee Say, whose team lost in Holland-Bukit Timah GRC: 'Voters of Tanjong Pagar and Marine Parade may have voted for (MM Lee and SM Goh) on the basis that they continue to be Cabinet ministers.

'Now that they have stepped down, shouldn't by-elections be held?'

Mr Tan, who was SM Goh's principal private secretary from 1985 to 1990, also called for the two ministers to step down from other public sector positions.

'If they're really serious about giving their new leadership a free hand, they should step down from all government positions, including GIC,' said Mr Tan.

MM Lee chairs the Government of Singapore Investment Corporation, a sovereign wealth fund, while SM Goh is chairman of financial regulator Monetary Authority of Singapore.

Later, the SDP said on its website: 'If the motivation is for the younger generation to take over the leadership of politics in Singapore, Mr Lee Kuan Yew should completely retire from the political scene.

'The clean break would truly signal a new beginning for politics in Singapore and for democracy to start its belated development.'

The party also called for the two positions, as well as that of ministers in the Prime Minister's Office, to be abolished. It estimated such a move would save the Government $15 million a year in salaries, which it said could go to helping the needy.

The SDP also said the MM and SM posts have 'served no useful purpose except to drain the national budget'.
 

Amakusa Kourin

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Anybody still want to say that Chiam See Tong was just a 'token' opposition who complies with PAP?

On a lighter note, what TJS mentioned was right, both MM and SM should step down from GIC and MAS respectively.
 

annexa

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Talk cock. If they step down earlier they will get more votes. Votes out of loyalty and symphaty votes. Chiam should not just whack like this. MM and SM afterall still has many people respect. Don't spoil the oppos new gained ground by going what looks personal.
 

lianbeng

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lianbeng says, "both MM n SM will tell him: choi lei tou sor ah! we pension liao u still tonging ah?" :biggrin:
 

po2wq

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... 'Voters of Tanjong Pagar and Marine Parade may have voted for (MM Lee and SM Goh) on the basis that they continue to be Cabinet ministers ...
ya, man! ...

dose 2 burgers shud cum out n apologize 2 voters 4 not telling dem earlier ... :mad:

ah loon said oredi ... gahmen worng oredi, muz apologize! ... :mad:
 

hairylee

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If it is 66.6% do you think these two will step down?
They will carry on with their merry ways.
 

sir cum-a-lot

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if it wasn't for the loss of aljunied GRC that forced some of the ministers to retire, opening a big can of worms where the pension scheme has come to light. the incoherent comments from the PMO & DPM Teo had also raised quite a few brows as to how they had a free hand to cast the pension scheme in stone since the 90s.

now the issue is under the microscope, makes it obvious that the 2 redundant fellows need to retire quickly, so they can wash their hands off the double standard policy that remained unchanged for nearly 20yrs (in their favor).

surely by now, the ppl that picked woody in the recent ballots must feel their balls being clamped big time, on learning of his decision to step down as minister.

well, kudos to those in aljunied & hougang, to have the guts & balls of steel to pick the alternatives. having done so, the transition phase has brought much questionable issues to light, and as for the myopic majority, that saw their own needs weigh greater importance than the nation as a whole, and shall be the ones to regret & repent for the next 5yrs.

woody has now put himself to be of same status with TPL, and i'm sure the 1st words to come out of the residents in marine parade... "i don't know what to say"
 

jw5

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If they had stepped down before elections then the generals and tin tin could not have sailed into parliament

In my opinion, if Wooden and oldman had announced their retirement from cabinet before the elections, CST would have lost by a bigger margin.

Because the pappies would have made out WKS to be a precious priceless indispensable vase, to be wrapped up in cotton wool. The sad part is that most singaporeans would believe that.
 

glockman

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In my opinion, if Wooden and oldman had announced their retirement from cabinet before the elections, CST would have lost by a bigger margin.

Because the pappies would have made out WKS to be a precious priceless indispensable vase, to be wrapped up in cotton wool. The sad part is that most singaporeans would believe that.

yeah I feel the same. Balls-less insecure sinkies all over the island would've voted in more pap to ensure gahmen is strong. Could've been 87-0. Lucky siah!
 

steffychun

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SPP, SDP criticise timing of announcement
By Tessa Wong

TWO opposition parties have criticised Singapore's two former prime ministers for the timing of the announcement that they are leaving the Cabinet.

Said Mr Chiam See Tong, secretary-general of the Singapore People's Party (SPP): 'The question is: Why now, and not five years later? I think MM and SM owe an explanation to the public on this point.'

It is the 'fair' thing to do, Mr Chiam added, arguing that the outcome of the polls would probably have been different if voters had known before the election that Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, 69, and Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, 87, were planning to step down as ministers.


His party would probably have won in Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC, he said, and added: 'In Marine Parade, they would not have gotten in if Goh Chok Tong was stepping down.'

Mr Goh's People's Action Party team won the GRC, beating a National Solidarity Party team.

Like many Singaporeans, Mr Chiam was taken by surprise when he heard the news, he told reporters at an SPP event in Bishan Park.

On Saturday, about a week after the election, SM Goh and MM Lee announced their desire to depart, so as to give Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his team a 'fresh, clean slate' to carry Singapore forward.

At a separate event in Ghim Moh, a member of the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) who contested in the recent polls called on PM Lee to be 'fair' to voters by holding by-elections in the GRCs helmed by the two ministers.

Said Mr Tan Jee Say, whose team lost in Holland-Bukit Timah GRC: 'Voters of Tanjong Pagar and Marine Parade may have voted for (MM Lee and SM Goh) on the basis that they continue to be Cabinet ministers.

'Now that they have stepped down, shouldn't by-elections be held?'

Mr Tan, who was SM Goh's principal private secretary from 1985 to 1990, also called for the two ministers to step down from other public sector positions.

'If they're really serious about giving their new leadership a free hand, they should step down from all government positions, including GIC,' said Mr Tan.

MM Lee chairs the Government of Singapore Investment Corporation, a sovereign wealth fund, while SM Goh is chairman of financial regulator Monetary Authority of Singapore.

Later, the SDP said on its website: 'If the motivation is for the younger generation to take over the leadership of politics in Singapore, Mr Lee Kuan Yew should completely retire from the political scene.

'The clean break would truly signal a new beginning for politics in Singapore and for democracy to start its belated development.'

The party also called for the two positions, as well as that of ministers in the Prime Minister's Office, to be abolished. It estimated such a move would save the Government $15 million a year in salaries, which it said could go to helping the needy.

The SDP also said the MM and SM posts have 'served no useful purpose except to drain the national budget'.

it is possible to have one Minister with Out portfolio; in the UK PMO, there is such a position.
 

KuanTi01

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Chiam complained that " It is the 'fair' thing to do" but this is wishful thinking considering the PAP's consistent track record of playing out the opposition. :rolleyes: Sinkapore had not seen a by election for decades ever since the PAP took control:mad:!
 
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