An Election STRATEGY that could TOPPLE this government.

[Nice-Gook]

Folks we smell elections around the corner.And let's face it PAP will win.That is certain.Perhaps the popular votes may fall from 66% to 60%.But PAP will certainly form the next government with no representation in the parliament for the disgruntled 40 per cent who had voted against it.The same ole story in the past 40 years.Back to square one with PAP in power.Which means imminent deliberate price increases amongst other things which gona make our lives here intolerable.

How than are we gonna get out of this vicious cycle?

May I suggest a simple but an effective strategy.But the catch is that it requires sacrifices amongst opposition parties.Just go for the very top PAP candidate..As if a sniper would aim for just one.Sort of 1 bullet 1 kill but renders the entire enemy's mission in shambles.

If the opposition can defeat LKY in his GRC or LHL in his GRC than the PAP government becomes leaderless.Do remember without either of them at helm PAP would either crumble or split.Its as good as LKY kicking the bucket.Change than must follow in our politics.

Its an open secret that the elections are never fair in Singapore.Why?Because PAP sets the rules and opposition simply cannot play by PAP rules and hope to win .So the route to parliament for oppositions via elections remain closed.Or till LKY dies ; at least that's what many posters in this forum touts.

So the bottom line is that only through LKY demise can there be any real electoral change.Why not bring that change by defeating just the PAP key figure in coming election.


Now,this is how it goes.The opposition must put up its dream team regardless of opposition party's affliction.Yeah its a tall order.No ! its a very very tall order but it must be done.Than the choice is between LKY or LHL.Obviously LHL is the weaker link.Besides defeating LHL would loosen LKY's grip within PAP.

Than the election campaign by the oppositions should be meet the people one to one.I am serious.Yes one to one in just that GRC.Afterall do remember the PAP is not going to give the oppositions enough time nor ground in this election or any elections for that matter to campaign.And as usual the fear of bankrupting candidates who stands as oppositions to PAP.This is where all credible oppositions candidates with clout who were bankrupted comes in handy.They should beat the ground tirelessly meeting people one to one in LHL GRC to campaign.This is what I meant by sacrifices by opposition parties.Sacrificing themselves by forsaking their glory so that their collogues who stands against LHL would win.

History had shown in the past.That with this draconian GRC electoral system only 1 GRC had always eluded the opposition.The other option of course is for the oppositions to boycott this coming election.

 

[Sideswipe]

Even if the oppositions gave up all seats and contested just LKY's GRC, they would probably still lose.

I like the ideas of contesting Tanjong Pagar GRC. I think the result might surprise peoples. If opposition can gather 40%+ votes there, what does it say about LKY's mandate if his peers all won by 60%+ votes.

Boycotting elections is a last resort. people will say this is stupid and look what happened the last time, they did that. But now is 2009 not 1960s.It will look very bad on PAP in today era. If the peasants can understand why the oppositions do that? This is worth a try.

 

[Nice-Gook]

Continued...

One must look at the recent Malaysian general election and the role of Anwar if we must learn something.First the ground wa bitter against the government in Boleh land..People felt cheated.across the racial lines.This is indeed a vital factor since people no longer alludes to the dirty divide and rule strategy along racial lines and racist parties.Poverty and hardships has became a common currency amongst the mass.Now,who is to gel this ground swell of anti establishment fever and unite the oppositions?Sort of which mousssie is now gonna tie the bell around the cat+

The oppositions in Malaysia are deeply divided along racial and religious lines.PAS is Muslim Malayish and DAP is largely Chinese.Anwar is again a wily Malay politician who can never guarantee that he subscribes to either PAS or DAP ideology or goal.And of course Anwar himself was unable to contest the election then and could only function through proxies.Very dicey situation.

Similarly here in Singapore.We have opposition parties whose aims and goals are as wide as DAP vs. PAS.We have many credible candidate who are bankrupted and perhaps like Anwar can only function thru proxies.Above all our people are indeed in shit regardless of race language or religion.

Thereby we merely need an Anwar here.Not that I have any respect for Anwar as a honest decent politician.But an Anwar who could beat some sense to the deeply divided oppositions that,''divided we loose but united we win'..

Despite the fact that Anwar himself never stood for that election the opposition brought about a perfect political tsunami in Boleh land..Of course Anwar pulled some dirty stunts by churning the ground to swell against their government...whereas here in Singapore the PAP itself did themselves in by screwing our economy.Sort of opportunity handed in platters so as to speak to our languished opposition parties.

All we now need is "Anwars"...who shall that be?

 

[Lestat]

You aim for the top and try to topple the GRC. Your argument is when there is no leader, the whole system will collapse.

But, have you heard of this term "proxy"? Even with losing the GRC, as long as the PAPies still maintain a majority hold, they still call the shots in running this country. What else can you do about it?

 

[scroobal]

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May I suggest a simple but an effective strategy.But the catch is that it requires sacrifices amongst opposition parties.Just go for the very top PAP candidate..As if a sniper would aim for just one.Sort of 1 bullet 1 kill but renders the entire enemy's mission in shambles.

It does tell me that you have no clue about Singapore Politics and the laws of probability.

Firstly, Tanjong Pagar is no ordinary consituency. Take a walk. Compared to the rest, it has changed the least. People prefer status quo. Look at the Hawker centre - almost the same tenants, passed down from parents to children or relatives. Small altars here and there. Incense burning like no tomorrow. Of course addtional cleaners and quick job.

When Goh Keng Swee was MP of Kreta Ayer, it was well known that he had little time for street politics so they had let the status quo remain and for years, nothing was done. They just allowed the old folks who was the main voting bloc to remain happy. Moment he left politics, the valuable real estate was opened up and tremendous changes occurred.

Anson which is next Tanjong Pagar at that time had a lot of movement/ changes including unhappy relocations at Blair Plain, Low Hill Road and the PAP lost to JBJ. They did not touch Tanjong Pagar. In essence, you are not going to move anything there as the PAP grassroots have a total hold. Its a no go zone even for Govt Depts. All must be cleared by his proxy.

Secondly, any strategy or even common sesnse will call for the attack to take place at the weakest link. You think Tanjong Pagar is a weak link?

 

[Leongsam]

May I suggest a simple but an effective strategy.But the catch is that it requires sacrifices amongst opposition parties.Just go for the very top PAP candidate..As if a sniper would aim for just one.Sort of 1 bullet 1 kill but renders the entire enemy's mission in shambles.

If the opposition can defeat LKY in his GRC or LHL in his GRC than the PAP government becomes leaderless.Do remember without either of them at helm PAP would either crumble or split.Its as good as LKY kicking the bucket.Change than must follow in our politics.

It doesn't work that way. All the PAP has to do in order to get it's leaders back into parliament in a perfectly legal manner is for MPs in some other ward to resign from Parliament. The PAP can then call a by election.

Anwar Ibrahim used this strategy to get back into Parliament when his daughter resigned her seat. The PAP has more than enough running dogs who would do the same in exchange for a cushy GLC job and 20 directorships.

 

[kakowi]

The opposition must put up its dream team...

Now you have raised a very interesting point.

But they should not contest in TP or AMK. Rather they should target a weak GRC and at one shot get 5 oppositions into Parliament.

However i doubt it will happen, for these reasons:

(1) Is the electoral boundary for Hougang redrawn? If not, that is another sure win for LTK. Why should he risk that to compete in a GRC where there are new foreign singaporeans?

(2) If we leave out LTK, there are only three others who have a good standing with the electorate: SL, CST and TKL. SL reports to LTK who is conservative; CST is very cautious and TKL is perhaps the star with the most potential at this moment.

(3) A dream team presupposes a merger. That will not be possible.
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But let's say a dream team is possible.

Then the chances of more opposition in Parliament is very possible.

But do compete in a weak GRC ward.

 

[Sideswipe]

It does tell me that you have no clue about Singapore Politics and the laws of probability.

Firstly, Tanjong Pagar is no ordinary consituency. Take a walk. Compared to the rest, it has changed the least. People prefer status quo. Look at the Hawker centre - almost the same tenants, passed down from parents to children or relatives. Small altars here and there. Incense burning like no tomorrow. Of course addtional cleaners and quick job.

Is that Tanjong Pagar u talked about the SMC or the GRC of 5 districts or the GRC in 1990 or the GRC now.

A lot of things have changed. Who know what will happen?

 

[commoner]

to be realistic, to topple the govt in the next 2-3 elections will be difficult.

Cyber-oppositions are majority in the cyberworld, but compare to actual voters, it is the minority. Many voters in HDB heartland are unaware of what's happening in the cyberworld. Look at Aljunied GRC, if you sit in the hawker centres, do you think those aunties, uncles and patrons know about the $58bil loss? Do they care? PAP is smart to continue their grassroots to walk and soften the ground for their CB Chobolan leaders.

To win any GRC, groundwork cannot be ignored.

 

[Nice-Gook]

Even if the oppositions gave up all seats and contested just LKY's GRC, they would probably still lose.

I like the ideas of contesting Tanjong Pagar GRC. I think the result might surprise peoples. If opposition can gather 40%+ votes there, what does it say about LKY's mandate if his peers all won by 60%+ votes.

Boycotting elections is a last resort. people will say this is stupid and look what happened the last time, they did that. But now is 2009 not 1960s.It will look very bad on PAP in today era. If the peasants can understand why the oppositions do that? This is worth a try.

<style></style>Let me just say this.History has taught us this.That an unknown had always defeated the resident almighty.Always! Just go through the pages of history.He who dares win- commando motto.

Now,I quite agree with you that Tanjong Pagar GRC could very well be the PAP Achilles heel.But why not?

If you took down LKY GRC LKY could still function though LHL.But if you took down LHL.Its the end of LKY era.Hit two with one stone.

Boycotting elections is indeed a great option.Why?Simply because it sends a message to the world at large that we indeed are helpless since gerrymandering is the integral part of every election here.Do remember this is the age of internet.People all around the world want to know why.And we speak thru our silence.Not wanting to be a part of sham elections.

 

[Sideswipe]

you guys overestimate grassroot power.

a great majority of peasants 90% ( old folks and young ) have never seen their grassroots constituencies representatives and can't be influenced by them.

Those grassroots activities only cater to a small minority ( 10% or lower )

 

[Nice-Gook]

You aim for the top and try to topple the GRC. Your argument is when there is no leader, the whole system will collapse.

But, have you heard of this term "proxy"? Even with losing the GRC, as long as the PAPies still maintain a majority hold, they still call the shots in running this country. What else can you do about it?

Sure,I have heard much more than 'proxy'...What makes you think PAP will allow an opposition government to function even if they command 100% in the parliament?

PAP controls SAF,the civil service and the judiciary.That is why! ..not forgetting the tons of monies in their control.Remember Thaksin?... a fugitive who can still pull strings across thousands of miles away!

But that is another chapter.First thing first.

 

[Nice-Gook]

It doesn't work that way. All the PAP has to do in order to get it's leaders back into parliament in a perfectly legal manner is for MPs in some other ward to resign from Parliament. The PAP can then call a by election.

Anwar Ibrahim used this strategy to get back into Parliament when his daughter resigned her seat. The PAP has more than enough running dogs who would do the same in exchange for a cushy GLC job and 20 directorships.

Sam ole boy.Do you read news or not?

Heard what the speaker of Perak assembly did today?He barred the new CM and 6 of his exco members for 12 to 15 months.Is that legal?..Well,the court has to decide...back to square one for BN.

The point being someday both BN and Anwar has to face the people for better or worse.

 

[commoner]

imagine grassroots influence a 10% swing. many constituencies are won with 10-20% of swing votes,,,,,,

if opposition are serious about winning GRC, they must make their presence felt in the area, last min appearance diminish their desired effects.

And please opposition, no more james gomez stunt,,,, PAP is good at distracting tatics

 

[Leongsam]

Sam ole boy.Do you read news or not?

Specific incidences don't alter the fundamental fact that the existing Parliamentary system allows for resignations and subsequent by elections.

If the rules don't suit the PAP, they can easily change them anyway so at the end of the day, voting out their leaders isn't going to make a scrap of difference.

 

[scroobal]

Is that Tanjong Pagar u talked about the SMC or the GRC of 5 districts or the GRC in 1990 or the GRC now.

A lot of things have changed. Who know what will happen?

You will be surprised how community matters are handled there. SOP is completely different. (by the way, I thought that this was common knowledge) Anyway all the political parties are aware of this. People who stood against old man in the past are

Harbans Singh
MG Guru ( the lawyer who praised old man after submitting his nominations)

That tells you a lot. Go look at the margins when contest had occurred.

One must aleast credit our opposition to aleast know where to contest.

 

[Nice-Gook]

to be realistic, to topple the govt in the next 2-3 elections will be difficult.

Cyber-oppositions are majority in the cyberworld, but compare to actual voters, it is the minority. Many voters in HDB heartland are unaware of what's happening in the cyberworld. Look at Aljunied GRC, if you sit in the hawker centres, do you think those aunties, uncles and patrons know about the $58bil loss? Do they care? PAP is smart to continue their grassroots to walk and soften the ground for their CB Chobolan leaders.

To win any GRC, groundwork cannot be ignored.

<style></style>Absolutely.You are right.One wins no votes by sitting and typing in their computers.

Brudder,remember what our ancestor said.Great journey begin with a first step.

I agree with you that cyber opposition means nothing much.There is a real world out there where person to person fraternization matters much.That is why I would want the opposition to campaign on foot.Meet the people one to one.And in order not to stretch themselves concentrate in just one.And let that one be that brings down the entire regime.

 

[scroobal]

It doesn't work that way. All the PAP has to do in order to get it's leaders back into parliament in a perfectly legal manner is for MPs in some other ward to resign from Parliament. The PAP can then call a by election.

Don't make it took hard for them to comprehend. Already they are aiming for the strongest link in the chain.

 

[scroobal]

to be realistic, to topple the govt in the next 2-3 elections will be difficult.

Cyber-oppositions are majority in the cyberworld, but compare to actual voters, it is the minority. Many voters in HDB heartland are unaware of what's happening in the cyberworld. Look at Aljunied GRC, if you sit in the hawker centres, do you think those aunties, uncles and patrons know about the $58bil loss? Do they care? PAP is smart to continue their grassroots to walk and soften the ground for their CB Chobolan leaders.

To win any GRC, groundwork cannot be ignored.

Good observations.

 

[scroobal]

But do compete in a weak GRC ward.

Excellent.