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All these for a bill of $1,550 ? Got case or not?

theblackhole

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SINGAPORE: A dispute between United Overseas Bank (UOB) and its customer over who should foot the bill for S$1,550 in unauthorised withdrawals from a stolen credit card has wound up in the courts.

Ms Annie An Wei, 39, has not made any payments because she feels she should be liable for only S$100, as per the Association of Banks of Singapore (ABS) rules since Nov 1, 2009.

According to court documents, however, UOB has sued her for the full sum advanced from her credit card, bank fees and interest accrued, which amount to S$2,180.

The bank also wants Ms An, a marketing director, to pay S$800 in legal costs and S$300 in disbursements.

In the aftermath of several spa closures in 2009, the ABS capped cardholders' liability at S$100, with certain conditions: That the cardholder has not acted fraudulently or was not grossly negligent, or has not otherwise failed to inform the bank as soon as "reasonably practisable" of the loss or theft of the card.

Ms An told TODAY that her handbag, which contained her UOB Visa credit card and other personal belongings, had been stolen from her hotel while she was in Johannesburg, South Africa for a business trip on Aug 12, 2010.

Within 34 minutes, she had notified UOB of her lost card. But by then, the thief had siphoned off S$1,550 in four transactions at a nearby ATM.

After its investigations, UOB decided that she would have to pay the full sum. Despite a year of negotiations, both parties could not come to an agreement. On July 20 last year, the bank served a writ of summons on Ms An.

According to court documents, UOB said the crook must have known Ms An's personal identification number (PIN) for her credit card because there had been no unsuccessful attempts during the withdrawals.

It added that Ms An had not made any prior transactions at ATMs using the same credit card, so the card data could not have been compromised through skimming, for instance.

Speaking to TODAY, Ms An argued that it was exactly because she had never used her credit cards for cash advances, in her eight years as a UOB customer, that she could not remember what her PIN was.

UOB had earlier applied for a summary judgment but this was dismissed by the court. The bank is appealing the decision.

In response to TODAY's queries, a UOB spokesman said the bank was unable to comment on the specifics of the case because the matter was before the courts.

She added: "Generally, if there is a dispute over a customer account, we investigate thoroughly the facts of the case and thereafter work closely with the customer to resolve the issue.

"Only when there is no other option would we consider legal proceedings." - TODAY
 

theblackhole

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According to court documents, UOB said the crook must have known Ms An's personal identification number (PIN) for her credit card because there had been no unsuccessful attempts during the withdrawals.

It added that Ms An had not made any prior transactions at ATMs using the same credit card, so the card data could not have been compromised through skimming, for instance.


How many of us use our credit card for cash withdrawals - unless in an emergency right? Or if we are in casino, desperately in need of more capital? Or falling sick, and desperately seeking funds to see doctor? Or for some emergency when we lost all our cash overseas or "robbed or mugged"....Interesting case. From a mere $1550, now the customer has to pay more and more and more.....terrible.
 

Char_Azn

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According to court documents, UOB said the crook must have known Ms An's personal identification number (PIN) for her credit card because there had been no unsuccessful attempts during the withdrawals.

This is very suspicious actually. No fail attempt, first time guess right the pin???? I think UOB has grounds for doubting her.

Personally I have some experience of having my stuff stolen overseas including passport and credit card. Nowadays I make sure I have the contacts of the banks on my phone and written in a separate location just in case.
 
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theblackhole

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This is very suspicious actually. No fail attempt, first time guess right the pin???? I think UOB has grounds for doubting her.

Personally I have some experience of having my stuff stolen overseas including passport and credit card. Nowadays I make sure I have the contacts of the banks on my phone and written in a separate location just in case.

Thanks for the advice. Also keep duplicate passports in a different compartment - safely somewhere. Thanks.
 

Char_Azn

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Thanks for the advice. Also keep duplicate passports in a different compartment - safely somewhere. Thanks.

U duplicate passport I think got problem getting out of the country if kena found. Seriously though, my passport was stolen when some asshole in Milan stole my bag. Call MFA and made my way to the Rome consulate to get my papers done. By the time I got there, everything was ready, just need a passport size photo to pass to them. So in the case of passport, make sure U take down MFA number, keep a copy of a passport size photo. Also split your money and credit card in 2 different locations so if your wallet gets stolen(which is common) U got a fallback
 
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scroobal

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Some people have the habit of keeping their pin number in their diary, bag etc. And they might have forgotten it after all these years.
 
S

Summer

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UOB had earlier applied for a summary judgment
but this was dismissed by the court.
The bank is appealing the decision.


Can some good brothers name

the UOB bank manager in

charge of this case ???


Please name the VP who approved

the legal action up to this stage ...


For a Bank which made Billions

to behave in such a manner is

really Shameful ...


this is no way to treat your

card holder / customer ...


If the bank has ample safeguard

. the fraud would have been detect

much earlier eg : sms alert for the $1.5k

withdrawal ...

Bank is basically weak in its case and

using it financial muscle to thump down

a client . Client 's legal is easily $1k and up.

Shame on u UOB
 

Char_Azn

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Asset
Some people have the habit of keeping their pin number in their diary, bag etc. And they might have forgotten it after all these years.

Yes this did occur to me after I posted my first reply but the bank should not be responsible for the loss of money due to gross negligence on the user part.
 
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Summer

Guest
UOB actions and the Court refusal to

give ok for summary judgement tells alot.


The Founding Wee Family did

not build this Banking Group by

being nice guys ... Go ask around

how they repossess distress properties...

; how they whack those loyal and longtime

clients but closed an eye on their connections ...
 
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