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Advance Russian Fighters at Walmart prices!

TeeKee

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Who wants one? :biggrin:

China has launched the serial production of J-10, J-11 and FC-1 fighter jets, which are rip-offs of Russia’s Su-27/30 and MiG-29 aircraft. The nation intends to build and sell not less than 1,200 planes at the prices which will be much lower than those of the Russian planes.

The report is not the news for the Russian defense industry. In 2003, China refused to prolong the license for the production of Su-27CK planes and started working on the construction of its own jet – a copy of the Russian analogue. China will put competitive pressure on Russia on the market of spare parts too.

Beijing plans to challenge Russia on its traditional defense industry markets and become the maker of inexpensive and efficient air materiel. Malaysian military officials have already expressed their readiness to cooperate with China at this point. A senior official of Malaysia’s Air Force said that his nation was going to purchase a batch of spare parts to Russian fighter jets from China.

Malaysia ’s Royal Air Force has 18 Russian-made Su-30MKM aircraft. Their technical servicing is the corner stone of Russia’s entire arms export. There were a number of serious incidents when Russian manufacturers could not execute their contracts with delivering spare parts to Malaysia. Malaysia had to refuse from the exploitation of MiG-29 planes. The promised technical center in India was never materialized either.

Russia has delivered 76 Su-27 fighter jets to China since 1992. In 1995 Moscow granted a license to Beijing to assemble 200 more of those planes. As a result, Russia’s renowned Su-27 fighter jet was “cloned” in China as J-11. Russia was originally delivering spare parts to China, but Beijing refused to prolong the license in 2003. By 2008, China had designed its only analogues of the Russian engine, radar and other equipment.

Chain started the licensed and non-licensed production of analogues of Soviet planes a long time ago. The nation’s J-6 and J-7 fighters were created on the base of MiG-10 and MiG-21. H-6 bombers were copied from Tu-16; Y-5, Y-7 and Y-8 are rip-offs of Russia’s An-2, An-24 and An-12.

The military cooperation between Russia and China has had a 62-percent reduction since 2007. There are practically no new contracts between the two countries.

The Pentagon traditionally evaluated China’s defense technologies in its recent report about the level of the nation’s defense power. US officials believe that China’s level of technological development in the defense industry was much lower than that of the United States. Nevertheless, the Pentagon acknowledged that China’s defense budget was growing faster than the nation’s economy.

China is going to start the production of large vessels and develop a new generation of arms and military hardware for its navy. Priority will be paid to the construction of superships, a new type of submarines, supersonic jets, missiles and other arms.

After 2020, Beijing plans to build two nuclear-powered aircraft-carriers in addition to two other conventional vessels which are going to be launched in 2015. When it happens, China will establish control over the entire western part of the Pacific Ocean.

Izvestia
 

longbow

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The key point is that Chinese defense budget is growing faster then its economy! At this rate they will have their own advance fighter.

And yes they can have fighters at Walmart prices.
 

johnny333

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The key point is that Chinese defense budget is growing faster then its economy! At this rate they will have their own advance fighter.

And yes they can have fighters at Walmart prices.


Copying & building a better jet are 2 differnt things. If China has to copy the Soviets then they obviously don't have the home grown development capacity to DIY.
 

Papsmearer

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The key point is that Chinese defense budget is growing faster then its economy! At this rate they will have their own advance fighter.

And yes they can have fighters at Walmart prices.

Why is this news? China has been making cheaper aircraft, tanks, guns etc. for decades. U get what you pay for.
 

GoFlyKiteNow

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Copying & building a better jet are 2 differnt things. If China has to copy the Soviets then they obviously don't have the home grown development capacity to DIY.

Both the Sukhoi and MIG a/c are advanced planes and copying their body design and fuselage is one thing.

What goes inside is another.

China does not produce any military aircraft engine of that thrust and performance thaat power the twin engine MIG 29 and Su27.

The Russians don't allow their engines to be mounted on other aircraft frames without license and other restrictions.

Even these high performance Russian engines are no match for same category American engines which have 5 times the MTBF of the Russian ones.

Similarly the Avionics. The technology is simply not there. Recently the passenger aircraft which China displayed had almost 80% western avionics. The engine was American.

What ultimately will emerge is a plane that looks like high performance from the outside..being sold at "Walmart " prices.
 

johnny333

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Similarly the Avionics. The technology is simply not there. Recently the passenger aircraft which China displayed had almost 80% western avionics. The engine was American.

What ultimately will emerge is a plane that looks like high performance from the outside..being sold at "Walmart " prices.


Yep, If I remember correctly the chinese will be making an indigenous commercial jets with the help of GE.

China may be the the place to make cheap products but they still don't have a technology base like the west. Why else are there so many chinese students studying in the west :confused:
 

singveld

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just tell me which airline in future
uses jet liner build in china.

i will ban that airline. i want names.
 
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