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A ‘Depressing’ story of wages in Singapore

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[h=2]A ‘Depressing’ story of wages in Singapore[/h]
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I refer to the Ministry of Manpower’s (MOM) Report on Wages in Singapore, 2011, released on 29 June [Link].

From basic wage to total wage to including cpf to adjusted CPI?

Taking into account the rise in CPI, real total wages rose by 0.1% while real basic wages declined by 0.8% in 2011. Including employer CPF contributions, real total wages grew by 0.9% in 2011.

I understand that historically, median wage increase was given as excluding the employer CPF contributions, and the measure of “real total wages” appears to be a fairly new development.

In any case, a historical comparison using past benchmarks still means that median wages fell by 0.8% last year.

Similarly, as to “When adjusted using CPI excluding imputed rentals on owner-occupied accommodation, total wages (including employer CPF contributions) grew in real terms by 1.9% in 2011”, this may also be a relatively new measure, apparently not used in the distant past.

In this connection, I find it rather contradictory to say that as most Singaporeans already have a house and don’t have a car (thus, no COE), inflation using the CPI isn’t so bad, and yet when we increase things like the CPF Minimum Sum, CPF Medisave Minimum Sum, etc, we use the full CPI?

Growth in real wages in line with productivity: Really?

Labour productivity rose by 1.0% in 2011. Over the longer period from 2000 to 2011, labour productivity grew by 1.7% per annum (p.a.) while real total wages (including employer CPF contributions) increased by 1.6% p.a.

So, what was the real basic wages increase excluding employer CPF contributions (not real total wages including employer CPF contributions) from 2000 to 2011? Perhaps even lower than the 1.6% p.a.?

Majority did not give one-off special payment to RAF

As at December 2011, only a minority (4.1%) of private establishments with RAF (Rank-And-File) employees had given/intended to give a one-off special payment (recommended by the National Wages Council (NWC)) to their RAF employees while 5.1% was still considering whether to give.

The above shows that most employers (95.9%) did not follow the NWC’s recommendations. Shouldn’t our unions do something about this? Otherwise, workers’ real wage increase may continue to languish in the doldrums, with negative real increase in 2008 and 2009, just 0.5% in 2010, and now – 0.8% last year. With inflation at 5% now, how will workers fare this year?

32% of establishments did not raise wages in 2011

The proportion of private establishments that raised total wages of their workers was 68% in 2011 and the average quantum of wage increase in these firms at 6.6% was lower than 7.6% in 2010. The proportion that cut wages in 2011 (8.5%) was higher than 2010 (8.2%), with quantum of wage cut the same at 4.3%. The remaining 23% kept their wages unchanged in 2011.

If we adjust for inflation, how many workers did not get a real wage increase?

Some profitable establishments did not raise wages

The majority of profitable Category A (84%), Category B (76%) and Category C (63%) establishments raised wages, while slightly over one in two (53%) loss-making Category D establishments either froze or cut wages.

So, if wage increase should be linked to productivity increase, which leads to profitable firms, and even some profitable firms did not raise wages, how do workers cope with inflation?

Overall unit labour cost rose

The overall unit labour cost (ULC) rose by 3.4% in 2011.

Some get paid less as they grow older?

The median monthly gross wage for cleaners, labourers & related workers was $1,020.

Wages tend to rise with age as workers gain experience. However, the wages of plant & machine operators and cleaners, labourers & related workers were largely flat for younger workers before declining for those in their mid forties onwards. Advancing age typically works against workers in physically demanding manual occupations.

Service & sales workers also generally had declining wages as they grow older. For example, the Ratio of Median Monthly Gross Wages for those age 60 to 64 relative to Age Group 25 to 29, was 0.65. This means that by the time you are age 60 to 64, you may be getting about 35% less pay than when you were age 25 to 29. If you adjust for inflation, your real pay may have literally been cut to the bone!

Other low-wage workers include food/drink stall assistants ($900), the lower-paid hawker/stall holders (prepared food or drinks) ($1,200), waiters ($1,300) and cleaners in offices & other establishments ($815).
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Leong Sze Hian
Leong Sze Hian is the Past President of the Society of Financial Service Professionals, an alumnus of Harvard University, Wharton Fellow, SEACeM Fellow and an author of 4 books. He is frequently quoted in the media. He has also been invited to speak more than 100 times in 25 countries on 5 continents. He has served as Honorary Consul of Jamaica, Chairman of the Institute of Administrative Management, and founding advisor to the Financial Planning Associations of Brunei and Indonesia. He has 3 Masters, 2 Bachelors degrees and 13 professional qualifications. He blogs at http://www.leongszehian.com.
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Shouldn’t our unions do something about this?

What unions? :rolleyes: Can you state the name of a real union with the power to strike?
 
Excellent suggestion! The Trade Unions should fight for higher pay!

Yes, our Unions should fight for higher pay especially for low wage earners such as cleaners and despatch riders. The pay should be high enough for them to take a PM or an MP to court to pay lawyer fees and other legal fees.

The pay should also be high enough for them to have a bi-annual overseas holiday beyond SE Asia. It must also be pitched at a level which enables them to trade in their old iphone or Galaxy whenever a new model is in the market.
 
if you still work in singapore near retirement age, then you are doing something wrong, do what new citizen do, apply for canada, australia, new zealand, EU and US passports way before then.
 
if you still work in singapore near retirement age, then you are doing something wrong, do what new citizen do, apply for canada, australia, new zealand, EU and US passports way before then.

if it were so easy to qualify, then they would have gone overseas long ago. u r full of shit. as usual.
 
Union? So many of them working in NTUC is with the MIW...Tell me one significant thing that the Union had done for the workers.
 
Union? So many of them working in NTUC is with the MIW...Tell me one significant thing that the Union had done for the workers.



hi there


1. fat kid!
2. collect 12 bucks per mth.
3. double the amount at year-end.
4. that's it!
 
leong sze hian vs the MIW is like a sole security expert fighting hordes of underground malware authors, phishers and hackers. the hackers have so much funds stolen from their victims that they can afford buying all the best people and equipments while the good guy is doing it for free and sooner or later he will switch side.
 
leong sze hian vs the MIW is like a sole security expert fighting hordes of underground malware authors, phishers and hackers. the hackers have so much funds stolen from their victims that they can afford buying all the best people and equipments while the good guy is doing it for free and sooner or later he will switch side.


Not inevitable lah. Remember JB Jeyaratnam, he never gave up.

Many Sporeans are facing hardships now & many are waking up to this reality. Desperation is going to push them to make some "hard" choices in the next GE.
 
[h=2]A ‘Depressing’ story of wages in Singapore[/h]
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July 10th, 2012 |
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Author: Contributions

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Leong Sze Hian


I refer to the Ministry of Manpower’s (MOM) Report on Wages in Singapore, 2011, released on 29 June [Link].

...............

I just hope Opposition picks this up & nail those compulsive liars to the wall. Earn fat salaries they want, produce results they can'f. What are we paying them for? A bunch of monkeys still learning at our expense?
 
A good start will be minimum wages for all Singaporeans and to hire a FT you need 15 Sinkies first!!!
 
Not inevitable lah. Remember JB Jeyaratnam, he never gave up.

Many Sporeans are facing hardships now & many are waking up to this reality. Desperation is going to push them to make some "hard" choices in the next GE.

Yah and even when JBJ is well and truly IN the ground, things also didn't change.

What did change is, when individual Sinkie, whose sole survival really was threaten to extiniction by FT, did 'some' Sinkie wake up and do the 'right' thing.

It seems like for the better of the whole society, more Sinke sheeps need to be slaughtered with the Elite sheep grinning and then the rest of those remaining sheeps will then wake up.

But it could be too late by then.
 
Yah and even when JBJ is well and truly IN the ground, things also didn't change.

What did change is, when individual Sinkie, whose sole survival really was threaten to extiniction by FT, did 'some' Sinkie wake up and do the 'right' thing.

It seems like for the better of the whole society, more Sinke sheeps need to be slaughtered with the Elite sheep grinning and then the rest of those remaining sheeps will then wake up.

But it could be too late by then.


I also have been very disappointed by the 60% support of the PAP. For years I have been expecting some kind of change but have been repeatedly disappointed by my fellow Sporeans.

Not only have the the 60% sold themselves to the PAP, some of them have even made fun of the 40%. :rolleyes: It's ironic that many of these supports are now suffering. LKY has done a good job of brainwashing the masses but I think LHL is not going to have it as easye because he's trying to replace Sporeans with foreigners.

If Sporeans don't react by the next GE, they deserve the PAP:rolleyes:
 
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