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3 Nov 2009 GUN SALES EXPLODE DUE TO ELECTION OF OBAMA

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GUN SALES EXPLODE DUE TO ELECTION OF OBAMA

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Buying Guns, for Fear of Losing the Right to Bear Them
By KIRK JOHNSON

DENVER — Sales of handguns, rifles and ammunition have surged in the last week, according to gun store owners around the nation who describe a wave of buyers concerned that an Obama administration will curtail their right to bear arms.

“He’s a gun-snatcher,” said Jim Pruett, owner of Jim Pruett’s Guns and Ammo in northwest Houston, which was packed with shoppers on Thursday.

“He wants to take our guns from us and create a socialist society policed by his own police force,” added Mr. Pruett, a former radio personality, of President-elect Barack Obama.

Mr. Pruett said that sales last Saturday, just before Election Day, ran about seven times higher than a typical good Saturday.

A spot check by reporters in four other states easily found Mr. Pruett’s comments echoed from both sides of the counter.

David Nelson, a co-owner of Montana Ordnance & Supply in Missoula, Mont., said his buyers were “awake and aware and see a dangerous trend.”

Mr. Nelson said sales at his store had risen about 30 percent since Mr. Obama declared his candidacy. “People are concerned about overreaching legislation from Washington,” he said. “They are educating themselves on the Internet.”

In Colorado, would-be gun buyers set a one-day record last Saturday with the highest number of background check requests in a 24-hour period, according to figures from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.

“We’re not really sure who is promoting the concept that a change in federal administrations might affect firearms possession rights,” said an agency spokesman, Lance Clem, “but we do know that it’s increased business considerably.”

Federal law-enforcement officials cautioned that gun sales were extremely volatile. Nationally, rifle and handgun sales surged 17 percent, for example, in May, compared with May 2007, according to Federal Bureau of Investigation figures. That was before Mr. Obama had clinched the Democratic nomination. Sales then fell and were essentially flat by September compared with the year before, even as the campaign heated up, before rising 14 percent in October. November figures were not yet available.

What is clear is that every gun seller — not to mention every advocacy group for gun ownership that depends on dues-paying members — has an incentive to stoke the concern that can prompt a gun sale. Political uncertainty, gun dealers say, is great for business.

“Clinton was the best gun salesman the gun manufacturers ever had,” said Rick Gray, owner of the Accuracy Gun Shop in Las Vegas. “Obama’s going to be right up there with him.”

Sales at his shop doubled on Wednesday, Mr. Gray said, to more than 20 guns from three to 10 on a typical day.

Asked if that made him root for Democratic candidates, Mr. Gray said no. “It’s not all about profits; it’s about what’s he going to do for the country,” he said, noting that he had supported Senator John McCain, who was the Republican nominee.

A National Rifle Association spokesman, Wayne LaPierre, dismissed the notion that the group had any incentive to increase gun sales or membership. “Ridiculous,” Mr. LaPierre said. “I hope President-elect Obama keeps his promises and protects gun rights. If he does that, we’ll be cheering.”

The political battle over guns raged fiercely throughout the campaign in many states where gun ownership is common. On Monday, the day before the election, home-delivered copies of The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette arrived in plastic bags that said, “Vote Freedom First” and “Defend Freedom — Defeat Obama.” The bags were paid for by the N.R.A., whose initials were printed on each one.

Democrats fired back all over the country, with mail campaigns in many states with fliers stating flatly that as president, Mr. Obama would respect an individual’s right to own guns.

“Obama will protect our gun rights,” said one flier sent to homes in Minnesota.

In Montana, Gov. Brian Schweitzer, a Democrat, was photographed shooting his guns outdoors.

But some gun buyers and sellers never forgot, or forgave, Mr. Obama’s widely reported comment in April to a group in San Francisco that some Americans “cling to guns or religion” in times of adversity.

“It was an annoying comment, and it showed there’s a lot more to him,” said Mike Warner, 38, of Las Vegas, who was shopping for a gun there on Thursday.

Mr. Warner said he was an N.R.A. member and an owner of two guns but wanted at least one more.

Other people, even some shopping for guns, said they thought that some gun enthusiasts’ fears about Mr. Obama were unjustified. James Sykes, a gun collector who was shopping at the Gun Room in Lakewood, Colo., called the rush to buy guns “a lot of hysteria about very little.”

Mr. Sykes, who said he had voted mostly Republican in the past but supported Mr. Obama this year, said that issues like war and the global economic crisis were more pressing for him right now and that he imagined the same was true for Mr. Obama.

“My Second Amendment rights are unquestionably important to me, but so is feeding my family,” he said. “In reality, you won’t be able to afford to buy a gun if your job goes overseas.”

But markets, whether for guns or stocks and bonds, tend to move with their own internal dynamics even in — perhaps especially in — gloomy economic times.

Chris Casella, general manager of Federal Firearms Company in Oakdale, Pa., a suburb of Pittsburgh, said he had been fielding about 30 calls a day from people interested in buying assault-type rifles, especially semiautomatic weapons, often with magazines that could hold lots of ammunition.

“A lot of people are buying them as an investment,” Mr. Casella said. “Better than gold.”
 

TeeKee

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I love guns!

You can now get one made in Germany submachine gun for us500 bucks

Bloody cheap man!

Everyone could be 24x7 operation ready just in case our neighbours want to make a move!

But pap also scared the peasants will overthrow them someday!

Damn america is a free and a great country!
 

Char_Azn

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Am I the only one who finds this funny!!!! The vast majority of the world have been living without guns most of our lives, doesn't seem like we're having a big problem dealing with it. On top of which US has a serious gun problem, they have pple killing their own pple almost on a daily basis with their own guns.

“They are educating themselves on the Internet.”

Translation: They are educating themselves with random bullshit someone pull out of his ass and post it on the internet
 

singveld

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I love guns!

You can now get one made in Germany submachine gun for us500 bucks

Bloody cheap man!

Everyone could be 24x7 operation ready just in case our neighbours want to make a move!

But pap also scared the peasants will overthrow them someday!

Damn america is a free and a great country!



get your facts right.
the full automatic germany submachine gun cost 20 000 US dollars.
 

Char_Azn

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Seriously, who the F**k in their right mind would think they need a freaking submachine gun at home. At the very worse if you need something for self defence, a pistol would be more then enough. These jokers just want guns for fun and bragging rights. A Gun is a freaking weapon, its not a toy. These pple doesnt seem to realize that
 

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You don't live in US so maybe you don't know the mindset, if crooks are using AK47s, then it's better you don't even own a small pistol because once they saw you with a gun, most likely they will kill you.

So the bigger the gun the better if you want self defense.
Uzi will fit nicely and easy to maneuver for CQB.

If someone enter your house with a weapon, you can kill them under self defense.

Sinkies will never comprehend the rights to bear arms.


Seriously, who the F**k in their right mind would think they need a freaking submachine gun at home. At the very worse if you need something for self defence, a pistol would be more then enough. These jokers just want guns for fun and bragging rights. A Gun is a freaking weapon, its not a toy. These pple doesnt seem to realize that
 

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If crooks freaking owns an AK and is pointing in my direction, I'd just give him everything he wants. Its senseless to fight with someone with that kind of firepower even if U actually have a bigger gun. Heck if you look at US Police shoot outs on TV, even the freaking police won't anyhow fight against 1 guy with a submachine gun let alone an assult rifle.

Pple can make fun of our laws and joke about our restriction but I know for sure that even in the most dangerous district in SG(most probably Geylang), I can still safely walk about in the middle of the night WITHOUT having to arm myself. I may no know US but I know common sense tells you that if you need to keep a freaking submachine gun for self defence, there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with the country. Hell, even most of the ulu places I've been to in China, India and Thailand are way safer then the US
 

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There is nothing wrong with USA law, to the people the right to bear arm is freedom.

Guns are necessary to protect their rights against internal traitors and external enemies.

Living in fear in a gun carrying country is the legacy and karma of a cowboy country, barbaric wild wild west where a life is cheaper than a bullet-this is the price to pay.

If crooks freaking owns an AK and is pointing in my direction, I'd just give him everything he wants. Its senseless to fight with someone with that kind of firepower even if U actually have a bigger gun. Heck if you look at US Police shoot outs on TV, even the freaking police won't anyhow fight against 1 guy with a submachine gun let alone an assult rifle.

Pple can make fun of our laws and joke about our restriction but I know for sure that even in the most dangerous district in SG(most probably Geylang), I can still safely walk about in the middle of the night WITHOUT having to arm myself. I may no know US but I know common sense tells you that if you need to keep a freaking submachine gun for self defence, there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with the country. Hell, even most of the ulu places I've been to in China, India and Thailand are way safer then the US
 

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There are many war vets in US that seen AK pointing at their face before so unlike us, they don't really freak out, being a nation that is constantly at war, to shoot and get shot at is not as uncommon compare to us in Asia.

That is why I say it is a different world and we can't comprehend completely why, there are people who oppose the gun laws too, in my workplace in US, among the long list of company rules, one of then is "No personal firearms allowed in the office building, leave them in your car."

Because we go hunting after work, that's why we have rifle in the car.

If crooks freaking owns an AK and is pointing in my direction, I'd just give him everything he wants. Its senseless to fight with someone with that kind of firepower even if U actually have a bigger gun. Heck if you look at US Police shoot outs on TV, even the freaking police won't anyhow fight against 1 guy with a submachine gun let alone an assult rifle.

Pple can make fun of our laws and joke about our restriction but I know for sure that even in the most dangerous district in SG(most probably Geylang), I can still safely walk about in the middle of the night WITHOUT having to arm myself. I may no know US but I know common sense tells you that if you need to keep a freaking submachine gun for self defence, there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with the country. Hell, even most of the ulu places I've been to in China, India and Thailand are way safer then the US
 

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Seriously, who the F**k in their right mind would think they need a freaking submachine gun at home. At the very worse if you need something for self defence, a pistol would be more then enough. These jokers just want guns for fun and bragging rights. A Gun is a freaking weapon, its not a toy. These pple doesnt seem to realize that

Home protection with a pistol is laughable. The best weapon is a 12 gauge auto shotgun.
 
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