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151st bitch: I only settle for Mr RIGHT aka Ang Moh Dick

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Why settle for less than your ideal?

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I don't want to settle for 'just good enough'.
I don't want to fall for just anyone or make exceptions simply to get hitched.
But it seems that that is exactly what young adults of my generation are being encouraged to do, at least according to the latest Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS) campaign to try to get young singles to date.
Although the campaign is still in its planning stages, the tender for a communications agency to design the campaign made the suggestion that young adults 'moderate' their expectations of a partner.
But I don't want to fall for anyone less than ideal.
When I was growing up, my girlfriends and I had a checklist of what we wanted our perfect man to be. We'd measure and evaluate each boyfriend against that list to see how they matched up.
We wanted our guy to be cute, tall and who participated in a cool co-curricular activity. Coming from a good school wouldn't hurt, either.
Of course, none of us managed to get that guy as it was probably an unrealistic, and, in retrospect, frivolous set of criteria.
The guys we dated all fell short of at least one or two standards. But we still went out with them anyway, because we could forgive bad dress sense as long as the guy had a cute smile and a voice that made us swoon.
Now that we are a bit older - and perhaps a bit wiser - we have adjusted our set of requirements to more practical ones. These include being committed, being able to hold a good conversation, being financially stable and sharing similar values.
This set of criteria is no less difficult to fulfil than my teenage one. But this time, it is non-bargainable.
Sure, if people 'moderate' - which is really to lower - their expectations of their partners, MCYS' plan to get more couples dating, and eventually, to marry, would work.
But perhaps doing so would make the relationships poorer for it.
At first, it might seem easy to compromise or overlook certain things. But in the long run, lowered expectations will come back to pose problems and create resentment.
When one or both parties settle for less, it is not really an acceptance of the perceived flaws of the other. It is merely a temporary compromise. One or both parties may still harbour hopes to fulfil that particular want and this creates a perfect set-up for discontentment.
With time, when they realise that nothing is going to change, the parties get disgruntled and are more likely to bolt.
If the MCYS campaign succeeds, marriage rates may well increase, but I'm less optimistic that couples will stay together. This leads to other social problems such as broken families, insecure children and a cynical approach to love.
Arguably, couples who see in each other their perfect Mr or Ms Right are also up against such threats. Yet, I feel they are better equipped to weather such storms, because there is no residual resentment from having to compromise or bury certain hopes.
Seeing some of my friends who, like me, are in their early 20s, go through their relationships has made me realise the importance of sticking to my ideals.
A good friend recently pulled out from a long, loving and committed relationship. It was a difficult decision for her - but one I presume was a long time in the making. She left him because he could not quit smoking, despite repeated promises and vows to try.
Right from the outset, she knew it was a habit she could not live with. But she had thought she would be able to change him.
She did not succeed. Four years and many promises later, it was goodbye.
One does not have to be bratty and unrealistic - learning to compromise is a good thing - but not when it comes to the really important things. The make-or-break criteria, in other words.
Often, when people settle for less, they think to themselves, this is as good as I can get, and shudder at the thought of losing hold of what they see as a safety net.
But when a relationship becomes that - a safety net - it does not serve its full purpose to be enriching or one that helps both parties grow.
Singles should not be afraid of holding out or waiting for the right one to come along. Good partners aren't in short supply, if we only bother to look around.
My friends who once feared that they would not find a better guy than the one they had previously, are now in stronger and more fulfilling relationships. This, after they dared to stick to their ideals in their search for a partner.
It might take a while, but I believe it is worth the wait.
When it comes to finding a partner, there is no such thing as the right time, only the right one.

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... By Amanda Tan ...

I don't want to settle for 'just good enough'.
I don't want to fall for just anyone or make exceptions simply to get hitched. ...
ah amanda ...

ya, woman! ... juz like sg lidat, muz b lumpar 1! ... if not, lose face! ... oso cannot go ard boasting! ... :o :(


ah amanda ... juz 1 question ... how o r u now? ...
 
She can continue fantasizing and be left on the shelf.
 
She can continue fantasizing and be left on the shelf.

Women should be respected by men and not described by men with derogatory terms like on the shelf or expiry date. However, women should respect themselves and men too. Have mutually realistic expectations and more importantly, feelings. Seeking a partner is not looking for a job.
 
Women should be respected by men and not described by men with derogatory terms like on the shelf or expiry date. However, women should respect themselves and men too. Have mutually realistic expectations and more importantly, feelings. Seeking a partner is not looking for a job.

Some women are unrealistic. They expect the men to have Brad Pitt's looks, earn 10000+ a month, drive a continental car but they do not even have the looks to begin with. If the woman is smoking hot, and she demands this much, I have no issues. If women want a rich prince, she definitely must have high-quality looks. Same applies for the guys who want the hot women.
 
Some women are unrealistic. They expect the men to have Brad Pitt's looks, earn 10000+ a month, drive a continental car but they do not even have the looks to begin with. If the woman is smoking hot, and she demands this much, I have no issues. If women want a rich prince, she definitely must have high-quality looks. Same applies for the guys who want the hot women.

They go PRC, Vietnam or Thailand order their brides. Cheaper, easier and faster. Your NTUC minister Lim Swee Say says so. :D
 
They go PRC, Vietnam or Thailand order their brides. Cheaper, easier and faster. Your NTUC minister Lim Swee Say says so. :D
Unfortuantely I have no taste for PRC or Vietnamese.

Thai women are still decent. Taiwanese women are quite pretty but some have just too much makeup.

If better, find a Caucasian. ;)
 
Some women are unrealistic. They expect the men to have Brad Pitt's looks, earn 10000+ a month, drive a continental car but they do not even have the looks to begin with. If the woman is smoking hot, and she demands this much, I have no issues. If women want a rich prince, she definitely must have high-quality looks. Same applies for the guys who want the hot women.

First of all, Brad Pitt is not handsome at all. People have the tendency to equate fame and glamour with handsome or beautiful. Brad Pitt has a trademark Chinese '8' eyebrows. You know somebody rich and famous in Singapore shares similar set of eyebrows, but we're not interested in him for the time being. And Brat Pitt has that gangster look, i.e. he doesn't appear cultured or educated. This is the single most underrated criterion that shallow women often overlook.

Women have a set of ideals, and they like to boast about their ideals. People who boast about their ideals tend to identify themselves with their own ideals. Your know very well that your ideals can never represent 'what' you are. When push comes to shove, women do not pick according to their ideals. They may say aplenty about their ideals, but ideals don't make the decision for these women. What makes the decision ? It's your character traits.

For most of the women out there, their character traits fall short of their ideals. And subconsciously, these women are aware of their shortcomings. But the awareness is in the subconscious, and awareness doesn't mean she is prepared to admit. In fact, the more she is aware the more she will be forced into a denial mode.

And what best way to deny your true self than to boast the greatness of your ideals ?

Between ideals and character there exists a swing door called 'will'. Your ideals must stand the test of your will in order for ideals to become values, and [for] values, [to become] yourself.

So trust that when push comes to shove, Amanda or any women will pick one who will match her 'shortcomings'. This is the biggest secret that women will never reveal to even women. I say again, women are aware of their own shortcomings, but they just don't wouldn't admit.

I say again, women use their 直覺 to select their men. 直覺 resides in the subconscious, just as women are subconsciously aware of their shortcomings. In other words, mark this phrase 'women use their shortcomings to select their men'; they will pick someone who can accommodate their shortcomings. Ideals are just there to boost their self image. It's nothing more than a hologram.

Now read Amanda again. She is using her ideals to impress upon her readers, and men especially, what she is. She is at all looking for a man.
 
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Why settle for less than your ideal?

<!-- by line -->By Amanda Tan
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ST_IMAGES_AMANDA_8.jpg
<!-- story content : start -->
I don't want to settle for 'just good enough'.
I don't want to fall for just anyone or make exceptions simply to get hitched.
But it seems that that is exactly what young adults of my generation are being encouraged to do, at least according to the latest Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS) campaign to try to get young singles to date.
Although the campaign is still in its planning stages, the tender for a communications agency to design the campaign made the suggestion that young adults 'moderate' their expectations of a partner.
But I don't want to fall for anyone less than ideal.
When I was growing up, my girlfriends and I had a checklist of what we wanted our perfect man to be. We'd measure and evaluate each boyfriend against that list to see how they matched up.
We wanted our guy to be cute, tall and who participated in a cool co-curricular activity. Coming from a good school wouldn't hurt, either.
Of course, none of us managed to get that guy as it was probably an unrealistic, and, in retrospect, frivolous set of criteria.
The guys we dated all fell short of at least one or two standards. But we still went out with them anyway, because we could forgive bad dress sense as long as the guy had a cute smile and a voice that made us swoon.
Now that we are a bit older - and perhaps a bit wiser - we have adjusted our set of requirements to more practical ones. These include being committed, being able to hold a good conversation, being financially stable and sharing similar values.
This set of criteria is no less difficult to fulfil than my teenage one. But this time, it is non-bargainable.
Sure, if people 'moderate' - which is really to lower - their expectations of their partners, MCYS' plan to get more couples dating, and eventually, to marry, would work.
But perhaps doing so would make the relationships poorer for it.
At first, it might seem easy to compromise or overlook certain things. But in the long run, lowered expectations will come back to pose problems and create resentment.
When one or both parties settle for less, it is not really an acceptance of the perceived flaws of the other. It is merely a temporary compromise. One or both parties may still harbour hopes to fulfil that particular want and this creates a perfect set-up for discontentment.
With time, when they realise that nothing is going to change, the parties get disgruntled and are more likely to bolt.
If the MCYS campaign succeeds, marriage rates may well increase, but I'm less optimistic that couples will stay together. This leads to other social problems such as broken families, insecure children and a cynical approach to love.
Arguably, couples who see in each other their perfect Mr or Ms Right are also up against such threats. Yet, I feel they are better equipped to weather such storms, because there is no residual resentment from having to compromise or bury certain hopes.
Seeing some of my friends who, like me, are in their early 20s, go through their relationships has made me realise the importance of sticking to my ideals.
A good friend recently pulled out from a long, loving and committed relationship. It was a difficult decision for her - but one I presume was a long time in the making. She left him because he could not quit smoking, despite repeated promises and vows to try.
Right from the outset, she knew it was a habit she could not live with. But she had thought she would be able to change him.
She did not succeed. Four years and many promises later, it was goodbye.
One does not have to be bratty and unrealistic - learning to compromise is a good thing - but not when it comes to the really important things. The make-or-break criteria, in other words.
Often, when people settle for less, they think to themselves, this is as good as I can get, and shudder at the thought of losing hold of what they see as a safety net.
But when a relationship becomes that - a safety net - it does not serve its full purpose to be enriching or one that helps both parties grow.
Singles should not be afraid of holding out or waiting for the right one to come along. Good partners aren't in short supply, if we only bother to look around.
My friends who once feared that they would not find a better guy than the one they had previously, are now in stronger and more fulfilling relationships. This, after they dared to stick to their ideals in their search for a partner.
It might take a while, but I believe it is worth the wait.
When it comes to finding a partner, there is no such thing as the right time, only the right one.

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When you are in the 20s, you can pick and choose, when you are in your 30s, you can still pick and choose, when you are in your 40s, it's the other way round.

Holding out for the ideal one is not wrong, I think, using words such as compromise or lowering one's expectations, she is already barking up the wrong tree.

It should be acceptance of one's partner, good and bad traits, that will make or break a relationship. There is no compromise to talk about, there is no expectation to lower or raise, all this talk of compromise or expectation is just one's wish, when a person in a relationship starts, to talk about compromise or expectation, is already setting themselves up for failure and regret because, there is always someone better, there is someone more beautiful, there is always someone more handsome and richer, the list is endless.
 
First of all, Brad Pitt is not handsome at all. People have the tendency to equate fame and glamour with handsome or beautiful. Brad Pitt has a trademark Chinese '8' eyebrows. You know somebody rich and famous in Singapore shares similar set of eyebrows, but we're not interested in him for the time being. And Brat Pitt has that gangster look, i.e. he doesn't appear cultured or educated. This is the single most underrated criterion that shallow women often overlook.

Women have a set of ideals, and they like to boast about their ideals. People who boast about their ideals tend to identify themselves with their own ideals. Your know very well that your ideals can never represent 'what' you are. When push comes to shove, women do not pick according to their ideals. They may say aplenty about their ideals, but ideals don't make the decision for these women. What makes the decision ? It's your character traits.

For most of the women out there, their character traits fall short of their ideals. And subconsciously, these women are aware of their shortcomings. But the awareness is in the subconscious, and awareness doesn't mean she is prepared to admit. In fact, the more she is aware the more she will be forced into a denial mode.

And what best way to deny your true self than to boast the greatness of your ideals ?

Between ideals and character there exists a swing door called 'will'. Your ideals must stand the test of your will in order for ideals to become values, and [for] values, [to become] yourself.

So trust that when push comes to shove, Amanda or any women will pick one who will match her 'shortcomings'. This is the biggest secret that women will never reveal to even women. I say again, women are aware of their own shortcomings, but they just don't wouldn't admit.

I say again, women use their 直覺 to select their men. 直覺 resides in the subconscious, just as women are subconsciously aware of their shortcomings. In other words, mark this phrase 'women use their shortcomings to select their men'; they will pick someone who can accommodate their shortcomings. Ideals are just there to boost their self image. It's nothing more than a hologram.

Now read Amanda again. She is using her ideals to impress upon her readers, and men especially, what she is. She is at all looking for a man.

A very insightful look into the soul of a woman. So basing from what you mentioned, women are actually not into looks, money but a man who is willing to tolerate her shortcomings. This is nothing wrong, in fact, this is key to a lasting relationship. But some women are simply too selfish, they expect a man to accept her shortcomings but are unable to tolerate the man's shortcomings. Of course, they are men who sully our names by going to Geylang and look for chickens when they are already attached to good women.

Still, you deserve reputation points for this great post.
 
i am sure this IS already one of her better pictures.

even ah nehs like me find her repulsive. i hope somebody can send her the link to this site to let her know the reality.
 
So basing from what you mentioned, women are actually not into looks, money but a man who is willing to tolerate her shortcomings. This is nothing wrong, in fact, this is key to a lasting relationship.

Are you sure there is nothing wrong ? Tolerance is a matter of degree, and while the women are still young, their youth tend to offer men the appropriate amount of 'sweetener'. With that sweetener, men are generally prepared to be forgiving. But when the sweetener is no longer forthcoming, the threshold of tolerance is reached.

A relationship built on tolerance is pathetic to begin with. A proper relationship should be built on admiration and respect. Tolerance is when you know you've gotten yourself into a very bad deal, and tolerance is indeed the key to a lasting relationship - in the form of prolonging a bitter relationship [天天難過天天過]

Imagine there are 2 women, same age and same character. One is pretty and the other one is fat. Both throw tantrums at you. You're more likely to react to the pretty one with a smile; the fat one will get a slap on her face. This is what I mean by sweetener. Unless the fat one is rich, and you're living off her.

But some women are simply too selfish, they expect a man to accept her shortcomings but are unable to tolerate the man's shortcomings. Of course, they are men who sully our names by going to Geylang and look for chickens when they are already attached to good women.

Both men and women are selfish. But women are selfish to 'her family' while men are selfish to 'himself'. If you're a man, you must learn how to make good use of a woman's selfishness and exploit her selfishness to fulfill your own selfishness. You see the exact opposite with married men who are henpecked.
 
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