WP is arrogant

IS WP becoming arrogant?

If CSJ say is true, SDP has write to WP for a discussion but when talking to press yesterday, LTK told reporters that so far there are no talk schedule.

Has WP becoming arrogant. They feel like there is no point talking.

I think voters at punggol east should teach them a lesson

WP is the only opposition party to be represented in parliament, and the first to win a GRC. Arrogance, even if undesirable, is a natural consequence of this dominance.

The bad blood goes a long way. The fact that they have to resort to official letters rather than a phone call plus a threat to reveal the content to the public shows the hole that SDP is in. And the hole that they are digging deeper.

SDP needs to understand it is the entity that needs to repair the issue. It no different to a commercial or personal relationship. SDP chose a path that turned out to be erroneous over 2 decades seems to lost on them.

Early this week, SDP did the usual high profile approach to advertise their ground engagement. What were they doing for last 20 years would be the question in people's mind when they see such publicity.

By the way, Jufrie is considered a dud. A former member of WP (twice) and his comments about the WP over the years has not been encouraging. The fact that there is a video where a participant crucifies Jufrie for making silly and uncalled for remarks about Singapore average voters and Jufrie desperately trying to backtrack at an SDP organised event speaks volumes about this moron. By the way SDP released the video. Could they have not found someone more suitable than Jufrie.

Imagine CSJ's first letter to LTK contains a threat tells shows how skillful he is with negotiating. If I write a letter where I am not the party with the advantage, I would be bit more skillful in wording it. The same principles apply in commercial and personal interaction. Would I treat a much larger company and portray as an equal.

The fact they actually released the letters shows how poor political skills these guys have. Now you know why they are seldom invited to events where other opposition entities are invited. KJ has the same issues.

alantan27 said:

IS WP becoming arrogant?

If CSJ say is true, SDP has write to WP for a discussion but when talking to press yesterday, LTK told reporters that so far there are no talk schedule.

Has WP becoming arrogant. They feel like there is no point talking.

I think voters at punggol east should teach them a lesson

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Not nearly as arrogant as issuing threats to make emails public. And definitely nowhere as arrogant as starting online appeals for WP to step aside for VW as though it's SDP's divine right to contest.

WP supporters have been asking SDP not to contest, but WP itself will never tell anyone not to contest. Why bother? Just do what is right and let the voters decide. Each party bears the consequence of its own action, WP included. No need to talk so much. Engaging the voters is much more important.

why dont csj write to pap and ask them to step aside?

why didn't sdp write to sda or rp or benjamin phwee or oei boon eu? why only to wp? sdp is more arrogant.

My read of things is that SDP isn't really serious about competing in BE. It is fairly obvious to me that their plan is to look like they wish to compete, then look like they are going into a discussion with the WP, then look like they are withdrawing for the sake of 'opposition unity'. So the end effect is they get lots of free publicity, goodwill from opposition supporters, and as a bonus they could get some concessions from WP in the future in exchange for withdrawing from the BE.

The WP can see through this plan, of course, they haven't been so dumb as to immediately accept the meeting. They can kill the SDP's scheme by refusing to attend the meeting, but the SDP is now trying to force them to the table by releasing the email. Now it would be harder for the WP to refuse the meeting without making themselves look bad to the general opposition population who cannot see through the SDP's scheme.

Would be interesting to see how WP responds to this move.

wwabbit said:

Would be interesting to see how WP responds to this move.

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even with a straight fight between PAP vs WP, me sense a 55:45 ratio (PAP:WP), with +/- 3% std. dev.

zhihau said:

even with a straight fight between PAP vs WP, me sense a 55:45 ratio (PAP:WP), with +/- 3% std. dev.

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with the aim scandal, it should be 45:55 ratio (PAP:WP).

TuaGow said:

with the aim scandal, it should be 45:55 ratio (PAP:WP).

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wished me were as optimistic as you are, perhaps me should change it to 55:45 ratio (PAP:WP) with a +/- 5% std. dev. :o:o:o

zhihau said:

even with a straight fight between PAP vs WP, me sense a 55:45 ratio (PAP:WP), with +/- 3% std. dev.

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With AIM scandal, those that see the implications, may result in serious super swing. Right now Leegime is pumped on fake steroids on barking dogs with suing papers and sedate on money opiate. They cannot see objectively. Only the empirical test (which may see fixing afterwards) will tell.

Bigfuck said:

Only the empirical test (which may see fixing afterwards) will tell.

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whether there's an empirical test, it can only be revealed on 16th 1pm? with much anticipation, me wait...

alantan27 said:

IS WP becoming arrogant?

If CSJ say is true, SDP has write to WP for a discussion but when talking to press yesterday, LTK told reporters that so far there are no talk schedule.

Has WP becoming arrogant. They feel like there is no point talking.

I think voters at punggol east should teach them a lesson

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An opposition party asking another to give up on a ward it contested was practically unheard of. Until now.

I think the term arrogance if it applies should apply to all.

wwabbit said:

My read of things is that SDP isn't really serious about competing in BE. It is fairly obvious to me that their plan is to look like they wish to compete, then look like they are going into a discussion with the WP, then look like they are withdrawing for the sake of 'opposition unity'. So the end effect is they get lots of free publicity, goodwill from opposition supporters, and as a bonus they could get some concessions from WP in the future in exchange for withdrawing from the BE.

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If that is the kind of publicity they seek, I feel sorry for them for not having learnt.

The idea that any publicity is good has led to their inability to secure more votes with an A-Team than someone like GMS or a newbie Nicole Seah.

wwabbit said:

Would be interesting to see how WP responds to this move.

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I guess they will be totally ignored even until after BE. Some think of this as arrogant, but I don't see why WP needs to pay so much attention to SDP. They are an opposition to PAP, not SDP. If WP starts paying attention to SDP, SDP better start worrying.

am sorry but this whole 3CF thing in Punggol East BE is seriously making me consider the rumour that CSJ was and is a pawn (or tool) set up to destroy the opposition is sadly true...

scroobal said:

The bad blood goes a long way. The fact that they have to resort to official letters rather than a phone call plus a threat to reveal the content to the public shows the hole that SDP is in. And the hole that they are digging deeper.

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I agree. I think there is little need to adopt such a confrontational tone.

blueblobster said:

And definitely nowhere as arrogant as starting online appeals for WP to step aside for VW as though it's SDP's divine right to contest.

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Appeals like this?

[h=1]I'm Begging SDP-Don't Contest the BE[/h]

scroobal said:

The bad blood goes a long way. The fact that they have to resort to official letters rather than a phone call plus a threat to reveal the content to the public shows the hole that SDP is in. And the hole that they are digging deeper.

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Official letters are OK if you do not know the sec-gen of the other party personally, but publicizing the contents is a faux pas. CSJ's political naïveté is amazing. Just not cut out to be a politician.

zhihau said:

whether there's an empirical test, it can only be revealed on 16th 1pm? with much anticipation, me wait...

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hahaha...that is an understatement....
it may be my last day in sbf.