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Why so many Singaporean students are studying medicine overseas?

Lee5604

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This shows that the NUS medical school is admitting too few Singaporean medical students and giving away places to FTs.

A grant to lure them home?
Pre-employment grant could help with high costs of studying abroad, says Khaw
by Alicia Wong 05:55 AM Mar 10, 2010 SINGAPORE -

When a medical student told him that at her university in Australia, 40 of the 60 international students in her batch were Singaporeans, Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan had vowed on Facebook to "find a way to 'get our kids back' to Singapore".

"And I will," he reaffirmed yesterday, sharing with Parliament how he might go about doing so.

Singaporeans who want to study medicine overseas, a highly expensive undertaking, could one day be able to tap a Government grant.

"The restructured hospitals are studying an idea of offering a pre-employment grant to these medical students, to help them with their cost overseas, in return for a bond to serve after they graduate," said Mr Khaw.

According to the Ministry of Health (MOH), about 150 Singaporeans head overseas to study medicine every year. But from 2005 to 2009, only 110 returned after graduation, while another 130 returned after their housemanship or working a few years.

In the case of the young medical student that Mr Khaw cited, she had applied - unsuccessfully - to the NUS Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine. Determined as she was to be a doctor, and despite the strain of the more-than-$40,000 tuition fee per year, her parents supported her move to Sydney.

While Singapore will continue its "aggressive recruitment" of foreign medical graduates, Mr Khaw wrote in his Feb 9 post, locals like her who struggle financially are also on his mind for some "meaningful" help.

The proposal of a grant comes six months after Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong signalled that Singapore would continue to look at ways to expand the core pool of local doctors, even after raising the annual intake at medical schools here to 350 new doctors a year. This number would still not be enough to cope with a growing and ageing population, Mr Lee had noted.

Ms Melanie Tan, 18, now scouting for schools abroad, believes a grant would ease the financial burden of studying overseas, and even sway her mind about possibly not returning to Singapore after graduation.

But how long should the bond be? That could depend on the size of the grant offered.

Singapore Medical Association president Chong Yeh Woei, who welcomed the idea of the financial leg up, noted that five years of medical school in the United Kingdom could cost at least $500,000. Hospitals would have to work out how sizeable a grant they can afford, said chief executive of Changi General Hospital T K Udairam.

MP Lily Neo (Jalan Besar GRC) - whom Mr Khaw credited with coming up with the idea of the grant several years back - suggested the Government could take its cue from the current system where local medical students are bonded for five years after graduation. After Government subsidy, they pay roughly $80,000 in tuition fees for five years, said Dr Neo and Dr Chong.

Mr Udairam feels most students would view the bond positively in terms of an assured job after they graduate. Medical student Joel Tan, 21, agreed: "It has become increasingly hard to find internship places overseas especially in Australia, where ... priority is given to citizens and permanent residents."

Meanwhile, giving a mid-course update on MOH's $1.5-billion effort to recruit 7,700 more healthcare professionals over five years, Mr Khaw reported that since 2007, headcounts have increased by 44 per cent, There are now eight doctors instead of six per 10 beds, and 26 nurses instead of just 20 per 10 beds.

Young doctors can also look forward to better training opportunities, with $120 million to be spent on strengthening specialist training programmes over the next five years.
 

BlueCat

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first,doctors can earn big bucks.
second,not many places in local universities,some places are reserved for oversea students,again this is where the money is.
third,more easier to get in oversea's universities.
 

downgrader

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In the past, universities were better funded

Educating the students was the main priority, making money was secondary

Now universities are profit maximisers, fuck education
 

shOUTloud

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Why does this happen in the first place? It is because the Singapore Medical Council holds strong lobbying power within the PAP government with so many doctors who are MPs.

They always come up with the crap rubbish about how if too many doctors lah, then doctors will compete lah and give unnecessary services to make money lah. Knn now not enough doctors cos doctors still run road to private sector to "give unnecessary services".

See how the Parkway scandal about doctors overcharging Middle Eastern tourists.

Now not enough doctors leow have to import Filipinos and Indians. Desperate until thinking of how to lure back those people they shun.
 

wrcboi

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Why does this happen in the first place? It is because the Singapore Medical Council holds strong lobbying power within the PAP government with so many doctors who are MPs.

They always come up with the crap rubbish about how if too many doctors lah, then doctors will compete lah and give unnecessary services to make money lah. Knn now not enough doctors cos doctors still run road to private sector to "give unnecessary services".

See how the Parkway scandal about doctors overcharging Middle Eastern tourists.

Now not enough doctors leow have to import Filipinos and Indians. Desperate until thinking of how to lure back those people they shun.


cant help it 66.66% gave them a strong mandate...they were happy with them....
 

tonychat

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They realise that sinkie lives are not worth saving so they went oversea and then stay there to save lives that are worth saving.
 

kiwibird7

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There is often no bilateral recognition of Medical Degrees with other 1st world countries. The NUS Medical Degree does not get you registration or emigration points for a Singaporean.

A foreign Medical Degree (OZ/NZ) is registrable in Singapore and it also earns emigration points to get work or PR status in OZ/NZ.

Medical Doctors earn higher salaries in OZ/NZ than in Singapore not to mention a lower cost of living with regards to houses/cars (the 2 big ticket items)
 

Ash007

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There is often no bilateral recognition of Medical Degrees with other 1st world countries. The NUS Medical Degree does not get you registration or emigration points for a Singaporean.

A foreign Medical Degree (OZ/NZ) is registrable in Singapore and it also earns emigration points to get work or PR status in OZ/NZ.

Medical Doctors earn higher salaries in OZ/NZ than in Singapore not to mention a lower cost of living with regards to houses/cars (the 2 big ticket items)

Only on selected universities in OZ/NZ not all medical degrees are recognized in Singapore. But if you can stay overseas and enjoy better quality of life, why would you return to sinkieland? Ministar's children perhaps?
 

kiwibird7

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There are only 2 Medical Schools in NZ; University Of Auckland and Otago University (Dunedin). Medical Degrees from both these Universities are accredited in Singapore but which Singaporean with a NZ PR who obtains a Medical Degree from NZ would want to work in Singapore?

For starters, a huge chunk of his SG pay would get sucked into an abyss of no return known as the CPF.
 

Watchman

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Why does this happen in the first place? It is because the Singapore Medical Council holds strong lobbying power within the PAP government with so many doctors who are MPs.

They always come up with the crap rubbish about how if too many doctors lah, then doctors will compete lah and give unnecessary services to make money lah. Knn now not enough doctors cos doctors still run road to private sector to "give unnecessary services".

See how the Parkway scandal about doctors overcharging Middle Eastern tourists.

Now not enough doctors leow have to import Filipinos and Indians. Desperate until thinking of how to lure back those people they shun.

It's letting the ruling power wield too much executive powers .

Imagine hiring such incompetent people to reject your applications .
 
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