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Welfare in Singapore: The stingy nanny - The Economist

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Welfare in Singapore
The stingy nanny

The city-state stays strict with the needy

Feb 13th 2010 | SINGAPORE | From The Economist online

FOND of having the last word, Singapore's government can nevertheless be flexible. Who would have thought it would be building casinos? But one policy that shows no sign of reversing is Singapore’s antipathy towards public welfare. The state’s attitude can be simply put: being poor here is your own fault. Citizens are obliged to save for the future, rely on their families and not expect any handouts from the government unless they hit rock bottom. The emphasis on family extends into old age: retired parents can sue children who fail to support them. In government circles “welfare” remains a dirty word, cousin to sloth and waste. Singapore may be a nanny state, but it is by no means an indulgent nanny.

The aftershock of a deep recession, which pushed unemployment among citizens up to 4.1% in September—high for Singapore—has not altered the popular belief that the dole is bad for society. The casinos, which open on February 14th, have already helped reduce unemployment, which by December had fallen back to 3%, seasonally adjusted.

The government does run a handful of schemes directed at some of the needy, from low-income students to the unassisted elderly. But these benefits are rigorously means-tested and granted only sparingly. The most destitute citizens’ families may apply for public assistance; only 3,000 currently qualify. Laid-off workers receive no automatic benefits. Instead they are sorted into “workfare” and training schemes.

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Applicants complain that the process of seeking help is made tiresome and humiliating. Indeed that could be the point, supposing it deters free-riders.Officials take a dim view of European-style welfare systems, which are said to beget laziness. The Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS), which administers the various schemes, says theirs are designed as a “springboard” to self-reliance. Getting people back to work takes priority over relieving any temporary drop in income. In a fiscal stimulus unveiled a year ago in response to the financial crisis, S$5.1 billion ($3.6 billion) was allocated for employment measures, including grants to companies to retain staff. Those who remain out of work can join a government training scheme; by December, 169,000 unemployed workers had done so.

Many Singaporeans are wedded to their jobs and look askance at idleness of any kind. The government is leery of generous handouts, fearing they might undercut the work ethic while burdening taxpayers. But the thinness of the safety net also reflects a widespread article of faith, recited and reinforced over the years. Even among the social workers who work in hard-hit communities there is surprisingly little frustration at the meagreness of the handouts on offer or at the lengthy application process. One explains that Singapore needs to weed out undeserving claimants and shakes his head at the potential cost of a comprehensive welfare service. Yet in his next breath he mentions a number of local families who have been forced to sleep rough since mortgage lenders foreclosed on their flats.

Nobody doubts that wealthy Singapore could be more generous. In 2008 the World Bank rated it the third richest country in the world, in terms of GDP per head at purchasing-power parity. And the idea that its Big-Brotherly government might be outfoxed by conniving welfare queens seems odd. When a visiting news crew filmed an elderly woman scavenging in Chinatown and bemoaning her homelessness, the government promptly identified her as a miserly flat-owner who did not need to beg. Indeed, acute poverty is hard to spot in Singapore. Public housing is in good shape; no slums are allowed to fester. Soup kitchens do exist, but foreign labourers are often first in line.

But Singapore still faces the challenge of rising inequality in a society that is also rapidly ageing. By 2030, says MCYS, one in five Singaporeans will be over 65 (UBS, whose largest shareholder is Singapore’s sovereign-wealth fund, has estimated the date at 2020). Incomes have stagnated or even fallen at the bottom of the spectrum, as the rich pull further ahead of the middle classes. Long-term unemployment among middle-aged professionals, who do not qualify for workfare, is on the rise, says Leong Sze Hian, a financial expert and blogger.

Native resentment is also growing against the influx of migrant workers: 35% of the workforce of 3m is now foreign. It is often cheaper for companies to import semi-skilled and unskilled workers—there were 680,000 at last count—than to hire locals, who require pension contributions. Official reassurances that migrants create growth do not convince those competing for scarce jobs. Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore’s founding father and still its "minister mentor" has maintained that ambitious migrants help to keep citizens on their toes. In an interview given to National Geographic last July he said that if native Singaporeans lag behind “hungry” foreigners because “the spurs are not stuck on [their] hinds”, that is not the state’s problem to solve.

This nascent backlash may eventually soften the anti-welfare tone set by Mr Lee. The Economic Society of Singapore (ESS)—not exactly a radical cell—recently proposed to a government committee that it should build a more robust safety net, starting with unemployment insurance. This would promote social stability and help muster public support for Singapore’s open-door migration policies, it argues. Properly designed, such measures would not create disincentives to work and thrift. “While self-reliance is a good principle in general, it may be neither efficient nor just if taken to extremes,” noted the ESS.
 

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In 2008 the World Bank rated it the third richest country in the world, in terms of GDP per head at purchasing-power parity

only because of inflated pigeon HOLE.


stingy nanny? it is call YOU DIE YOUR BUSINESS policy

it is not bad, i dun want to work hard, and pay tax to feed BUMs.
 

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You dun understand about unemployment benefits.

When you are working you are contributing to this unemployment benefits to the state.

When you became jobless because layoffs, the state pays you back the money, maybe around 1 year or until you find a job. Technically it's your money.

What is interesting that in order for you to collect the money you must show prove that you have been actively seeking a job.

What is good about this is that the state can tide you over when you are down. And both the state and you have interest in you seeking employment. At the same time the flow of foreigners will be curtail depending on the employment figures of the country.

This is how develop country works to ensure residents are taken care off


If that is the argument, then the Singapore unemployment system is in no way inferior to that of the western countries.

The raising of retirement age, re-training courses, welfare subsidies from CDAC as well as job placement are some of the mechanisms that provide alternatives from unemployment benefits.

As these involved actual commitments, there is no need to prove active seeking of jobs as it is implied within some of these mechanisms. It also avoid the possibility of handing money to people who then sit and play the guitar on a leisure basis the whole day.
 

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David Hadden wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 1:13 GMT

As a Canadian I find it strange that Europeans find it necessary to lecture a country that has much less unemployment than Europe, an excellent health system, social peace (compared to Europe), a proper criminal justice system (no repeat drug traffickers or vandals), almost no true poverty, low personal and sovereign debts, and a culture of personal responsibility. Why would any sane Singaporean want to emulate Europe, or Canada, or the US? Rather, it is the decaying Western countries (US, Canada, Spain, Greece, Portugal and maybe even Great Britain to name the most visibly troubled)that should look to successful Singapore for guidance.
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otaroomari wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 2:13 GMT

Western countries should emulate Singapore in how they handle their welfare system.I live in the United States where more than half of the population get some form of Government welfare program. This puts enormous strain on the budget;however, changing this in a Democratic country is political suicide. It is easy to enforce strict welfare rules in Singapore because it is an autocratic country.
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Izan wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 3:34 GMT

I have heard multiple times how the European and North American countries should emulate the Singapore system and i do agree it does have it's benefits. However, there are different view from two ends of the spectrum. Don't get me wrong, the system does in one way or another prevents the citizens from being too complacent, but there is a need to focus more on Singaporeans and stop assuming that they won't do jobs that the foreigners are doing. It has in some ways due to the governments own decisions to reduce labour cost. Though it has been beneficial, Singaporeans got to come first. Provide them with such jobs before offering the jobs to foreigners. I mean it in the best of ways with not discrimination in mind. The citizen shouldn't pay for not being given priority in the name of low labour cost.
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Southern Bourgeois wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 3:59 GMT

Singapore appears to have it right in creating and maintaining a culture of personal responsibility. In this area, the Congress of the U.S. should take notice and begin to implement incremental reforms to the welfare system to foster this ideology if the nation is to persist as "number one". On the other hand, Singapore may realize a near-perfect system if some sort of unemployment benefits system were set up such as allowing for unemployment insurance (public or private) to assist the laid-off during their re-training and job searches. There may already be something of this sort in Singapore but the article did not allude to any real monetary unemployment benefits system in place.
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danmaxkl wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 4:37 GMT

David Hadden it appears that you've been in Singapore so long ,you have the pampered overpaid expatriate version of the "Stockholm Syndrome". Singapore is a ghastly place. It makes communist China look like a liberal democracy. I live and work in Malaysia and travel to Singapore quite frequently and you know what,I wouldn't live there if my salary was doubled overnight. It is like a theme park where the theme is "we're a country". Think Disney land but with the death penalty. You see,Singapore suffers from a major id crisis. It wants what western democracies have,such as a vibrant middle class,conspicuous consumption and fair skin .. but guess what? it forgets that most of those countries also have a safety net for their tax paying citizens who fall on hard times. It's not enough to tax people just so you can prop up US investment banks or reclaim land for some Dubai-sque type of fantasy. It's a fact: Singapore has the most depressed teenagers in the whole of south east Asia and get this , the highest rate of teen suicide in south east Asia is where ? That's right Singapore. There's your successful Singapore. It is a country full of droids who are seen as units of production not human beings. That too goes for the highly( some would argue over)paid expatriate community as well. You become an automaton that lives to work ...
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danmaxkl wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 4:43 GMT

I'm guessing all these posts are written by Singaporeans or Singapore residents. It figures,say all the right things as you never know who in the big brother city state is reading them ... The west needn't learn anything from Singapore.. Take Germany, Sweden,Denmark,Holland,Norway ... can you honestly tell me with hand on heart that these super wealthy liberal democracies need anything from Singapore. No,I thought as much
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newstime wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 5:22 GMT

The Singapore dollar should become the world's reserve currency it may! They have it right. I doubt Singapore has a deficit crisis. More likely the yuan.
Singapore is what every Western (and other) country was until about the time of Roosevelt and we are still living off the work ethic that created our wealth.
The waste fraud and laziness produced by our system is unbelievable. The Mexican immigrants have delayed our reckoning without them no one would pick fruit etc....This fact is well known to construction and business owners.
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Swiss Reader wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 5:35 GMT

David Hadden - I kind of like living in a place where unemployment is no higher than in Singapore, yet I can vote how I like without having to fear my vote being traced - and if my kid would fall for drugs (which heaven forbid) she will be treated, not killed.
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Izan wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 6:10 GMT

I personally know the Singapore scene both socially and politically. It might seem all is good in sunny Singapore, that fear in citizens towards being traced and their future destroyed hunts them when they talk about politics and the government. So in some circumstances, a hype is made by the citizens, it will be 'entertained' for a while then disappear. Though it is not the case all the time, all I can say is that you have to live it to know it
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Curate's Egg wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 7:45 GMT

danmaxkl/

Well, I've never been to Singapore, but if your major complaint about Singapore is that people are seen as 'units of production not human beings', then I think we can apply the same complaint to my good, cuddly Canada.

And Singapore's prosperity is not based on illusions like Dubai - Singapore has several assets that can truly back its economic standing. Strategic location, one of the biggest harbour in the world, a major trade entrepot, educated population - you name it.
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sachichma wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 10:34 GMT

Why should Singapore follow the way. In many issues Singapore is a good example for encouragement, cultural equality. Little India and next to it Arab Street and China Town, while France introduced a burka-ban, prohibiting women dressed with it to enter public buildings. Switzerland banning the construction of minarets, Germany's social system in disarray, Greece bankrupt. If there is any place where something evolved out of the Commonwealth, created by it own people without help of human rights hippies and do-goodie NGO's, then it is Singapore.
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Make Love not War wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 10:48 GMT

I am puzzled about the point of this article.

It sets out a remarkably well consiedered system of welfare / avoidance of welfare. And the couple of bleak points it has are being addressed by the government.

So what problem does The Economist see here?

As an European I would strongly advise EU governments (notably those in Greece and other PIIGS) to study the Singaporean model and follow it.

Another point I like about the Singaporean system (which The Economist strangely avoids to discuss) is that non-Singaporeans lose their right of residence and have to leave Singapore as soon as they lose their job. If Europe would have been wise enough to do likewise, there would be significantly fewer problems with largely welfare-dependent migrant communities that constitute an increasing drain on their host societies.

Finally, I am also confident that Singapore is not silly enough to offer asylum to anyone showing up at its doors the way Europe does it.

Well done Singapore! We may not like every detail of your system of government and society, but unlike European governments, the government of Singapore puts the well-being of its hardworking citizens above that of dole-loafers and foreigners.
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Kosogun wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 11:07 GMT

Ireland, Brian Cowen, Brian Lenihan ... here i a lesson for yee.
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Tzimisces wrote:
Feb 13th 2010 11:47 GMT

That a city state would be best governed by policies that differ substantially from those in larger states should go without saying.

An interesting curiosity, that should perhaps inspire city governments everywhere, but I think few lessons are to be drawn for anywhere else.
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outsidethebox wrote:
Feb 14th 2010 1:34 GMT

What makes Singapore so different from the West is that when it achieved material success its strong (perhaps harsh at times) government did not allow it to become complacent. Its very existence and certainly continued success is an affront to every liberal in America and Europe. It gives the lie to every welfare state out there. And so, increasingly does China with every passing year.
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Taddles wrote:
Feb 14th 2010 1:54 GMT

Just as strict, cane-in-hand schoolmasters are popular with parents, so is Singapore often lauded for harsh treatment of personal failings. Example: a woman who lost her credit card while moving house was liable for its misuse because it took her a few hours to report it missing. Fair?
The Singapore elite are protected, of course, by a pandering Press. Example: the Prime Minister's wife controls a State hedge fund that lost $50 billion but the media was voluminous in excusing her and she stayed in the job to this day.
Singapore is hell for a non-privileged local and good for foreign capital. If only some of the other views expressed here could distinguish the two.
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Who coined the term nanny state :confused:

I don't see LKY as a nanny.

There are more appropriate description of LKY such as an opportunist, dictator, fascist, elitist wannabe & exploiter of lesser mortals,.... but definitely NOT a nanny.

I have heard that he looks after the Lee clan very well, but if you are not related(aka lesser mortal) you are just a digit.
 

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Happy CNY....:biggrin:


But how the fuck is a country as rich as Singapore with her best paid cabinet could not even accomodate her really needy and poor ? The average citizen is still in slumbers as long as it doesn't happen to their own families, that is a non-issue.

What is the justfication of paying million dollars salaries to the minister and neglecting the truly poor ?

Get up from your slumbers and demand what is the government policies about this glaring gap and how this is going to be solved.
 

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Well done Singapore! We may not like every detail of your system of government and society, but unlike European governments, the government of Singapore puts the well-being of its hardworking citizens above that of dole-loafers and foreigners.

western expats who talk like this don't know the real singapore ... they also tend to be the hgh income CEO types ... living in waterfront housing or black & white colonial bungalows ...

Just as strict, cane-in-hand schoolmasters are popular with parents, so is Singapore often lauded for harsh treatment of personal failings. Example: a woman who lost her credit card while moving house was liable for its misuse because it took her a few hours to report it missing. Fair?
The Singapore elite are protected, of course, by a pandering Press. Example: the Prime Minister's wife controls a State hedge fund that lost $50 billion but the media was voluminous in excusing her and she stayed in the job to this day.
Singapore is hell for a non-privileged local and good for foreign capital. If only some of the other views expressed here could distinguish the two.

well put !

 

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Lky is a nanny all right, not financial sense but watching your every move sense.

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I agree they must have an extensive spy network, take for example this forum how many spies, pap supporters, truth brigade,... must be mind boggling.:eek:

When you have so many Sporeans struggling the $$$ wasted in supporting these groups is an obscene waste of resouce$.

When you consider that the authorities have been sleeping & oblivious to the true dangers like real terrorist, foreign crime groups,....:rolleyes:

Anyway the term "nanny" is a care giver, nurturer,... LKY might know about rules & punishment but he's clueless about nurturing. Just look at the current policies of replacing citizens, failing state sponsored industries :rolleyes:
 

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jobsFTns.jpg



You can continue to bail-out companies and give out job relief package and retraining for your cronies companies .

At the end of the day the poor men got a lousy job with minimum spending .

You can keep printing money to bail yourself out when our anger reach a point that we will have to boycott alot of areas for our own long term survivability .


What is it going to be ?
 

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What is the justfication of paying million dollars salaries to the minister and neglecting the truly poor ?

Mollycoddling the poor does nothing more than create a culture of dependency. The poor won't bother trying crawl out of the rut because they know they can depend on govt handouts.

The poor should learn to look after themselves. If they can't, then too bad. That's the way nature works and it has served mankind well since the dawn of time.
 

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Mollycoddling the poor does nothing more than create a culture of dependency. The poor won't bother trying crawl out of the rut because they know they can depend on govt handouts.

The poor should learn to look after themselves. If they can't, then too bad. That's the way nature works and it has served mankind well since the dawn of time.

There should be a safety net for all pitifully afflicted by the poor disease, in one way or another.
My spat is just how many millions per cabinet years were spent and the costliest cabinet in the world chose to look the other cheeks. Nature works compassionately too but unfortunately those million dollars mofos had been hardened by the rat race to become such an uncaring bunch that ought to be brought down to earth. 33% is a big minority in any measurement !!! You got your votes, use them wisely...

Maybe poor Singapooreans should all be exiled to one of those outlying
islands and renamed it Pulau Miskin Tanpa Mollycoddle because SamLeong says so.
 

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In another thread in this forum, companies' recruitment shows for graduates at SMU, NTU and NUS says they have 9000 open positions for fresh graduates to fill this year...in this thread "169000 unemployed have signed up for retraining and revocation..." I think somewhere someone thinks that we are really idiots not to be able to differentiate between 169000 and 9000....the unemployment rate, if the sources of this articles are accurate, is really scary...

As for the FTs, it is time SG follows the first world countries' standards of minimally making sure they can speak and write proper English(e.g. IELTS or TOEFL) before allowing them in and granting PR. ANd also, since it is so difficult to provide minimum wage for the locals, then provide a maximum wage for FTs. All I can say is what comes round goes round, if people who make the policies insist on having FTs, they will in turn be taken care of by FTs when they in the hospitals, and god bless if there is a miscommunication ending up in the wrong medicine served or wrong organ removed...
 

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By the way most poor people are poor for a reason...and stubborness to change is usually the reason...My officer used to say one has made it in life if he can speak and write well, and with luck and hardwork, it should be smooth sailing when it comes to earning a living...
 

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Poverty isn't a disease. It's a state of mind. :rolleyes:


In social climbing Singapoor, being poor is akin to having leprosy, et al.

How hard is it for a city state corporation capable of losing +200 Billions $ in embracing a comprehensive social welfarism?
 

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Why The Economist say singapore got no welfare?
The governmant build 2 casino for the poor to turn their fortunes!
 

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How hard is it for a city state corporation capable of losing +200 Billions $ in embracing a comprehensive social welfarism?

"Social Welfare" does nothing but breed a chronic underclass. Societies where the "survival of the fittest" is the underlying mantra are far better off in the long run.

I commend the Singapore govt for their hard nosed stand when it comes to giving handouts. Why should the rich and successful be forced to support the lazy and the useless scum of society? If the poor want money, they should work for it just like the rest of us.
 

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"Social Welfare" does nothing but breed a chronic underclass. Societies where the "survival of the fittest" is the underlying mantra are far better off in the long run.

I commend the Singapore govt for their hard nosed stand when it comes to giving handouts. Why should the rich and successful be forced to support the lazy and the useless scum of society? If the poor want money, they should work for it just like the rest of us.


Social welfare is a safety net. Inadvertently some will still fall through it and need helps. Are we as a society being nurtured and cajoled into turning the other cheek? I sincerely hope not.

Yes, Darwinism is real but to argue that your tax money is being forcefully used to support the "useless scum of societies" is so condescending coming from a "rich and successful" personage such as you.
 
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