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Serious 11 Jinping Tells Trump Who Tells South Koreans,"Korea Used To Be Part of Chinkland!'

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Buffeted by the currents of diplomacy, South Korea is sometimes described as a "shrimp between two whales", and US president Donald Trump has touched nerves with remarks that the peninsula "used to be part of China".

The comments came after Trump hosted Chinese President Xi Jinping at his Mar-a-Lago retreat in Florida.

As the pair discussed ways to curb North Korea's nuclear ambitions amid mounting tensions, Trump told the Wall Street Journal, Xi "went into the history of China and Korea.

"And you know, you're talking about thousands of years... and many wars. And Korea actually used to be a part of China," Trump went on.

Beijing is Pyongyang's sole major ally and Washington wants it to do more about the North's nuclear and missile programmes, while the US has a security alliance with Seoul and stations more than 28,000 troops in South to defend it.

The exact details of what Xi said and whether Trump accurately represented him are not known, but South Koreans are wary of Chinese expansionism, and politicians, historians and citizens have been outraged.

The Korean peninsula has been heavily influenced by China politically and culturally for centuries.

But while its ruling kingdoms sometimes paid tribute to their giant neighbour, South Korean historians stress they did not come under its territorial control, despite repeated invasions.

Seoul's foreign ministry spokesman countered: "The fact that Korea was not part of China for thousands of years... is a clear historical fact acknowledged by the international community."

- 'Dumbfounded' -

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lu Kang declined to confirm the details of Xi's wording, saying that: "The Korean people should not be worried about it."

But Seoul's major JoongAng Ilbo daily said South Koreans had been "dumbfounded" by the Chinese leader.

"If Trump really conveyed Xi's words correctly, it is nothing but a grave challenge to the identity of the Korean people," it said.

South Korean historians and activists rallied outside the Chinese embassy on Friday to protest against Xi's "absurd remarks", Yonhap news agency reported.

Seoul and Beijing are at loggerheads over the deployment of the US missile defence system THAAD to the South to guard against threats from the North, infuriating China, which sees it as weakening its own capabilities.

Beijing has imposed a series of moves including a ban on group tours to the South and suspensions of South Korean businesses in China, which are seen by Seoul as economic retaliation.

South Korea's top-selling Chosun newspaper turned on both leaders, castigating Xi for his "premodern expansionist view" and Trump for a lack of awareness of diplomatic sensitivities.

"The fact that Trump publicly disclosed such a remark (by Xi) demonstrates that he is completely ignorant about the history of the Korean peninsula," it said in an editorial Friday.

- Relations 'at their lowest' -

The row came after South Koreans were dismayed by the revelation that the US aircraft carrier Carl Vinson and a supporting battle group were still thousands of kilometres (miles) from the peninsula, despite the White House saying it was dispatching them to the area as tensions mounted with the North.

Trump had described the vessels as an "armada" and "very powerful" and the revelation drew jeers and disappointment.

"What Mr Trump said was very important for the national security of South Korea," conservative South Korean presidential candidate Hong Joon-Pyo told the Wall Street Journal.

"If that was a lie, then during Trump's term, South Korea will not trust whatever Trump says."

The series of missteps demonstrate lack of communications within Trump's nascent administration, said Bong Young-Shik, analyst at the Yonsei University’s Institute for North Korean Studies.

"Trump is an outsider inexperienced with how Washington works... and the coordination among his White House, the State Department and the Pentagon seems to be poor for now," he told AFP.

Relations between Seoul and Beijing are "at their lowest for years", said Bong, and Trump's description of Xi's remark was likely to worsen them further, "whether he intended to or not".

Fears of potential Korean conflict have mounted in recent weeks with Pyongyang showing no sign of any willingness to abandon its nuclear and missile programmes, and the US saying that military action was an "option on the table".

The North has vast amounts of artillery deployed within striking range of Seoul, putting the South Korean capital at risk of devastation in even a conventional conflict.

The carrier controversy illustrated Trump's "unpredictable behaviour" that could lead to "disastrous events", the Kyunghyang daily said.

"We are worried whether the Trump administration... can properly handle a crisis on the Korean peninsula," it added. "The South Korean government should brace itself against the 'Trump Risk'."


https://sg.news.yahoo.com/thats-xi-said-korea-outrage-over-trumps-china-031508534.html
 

war is best form of peace

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Kim Chi Bapoks dare not go to NK border to KPKB, and soon they will be nuked to dust by Kim Jong Nuke, and their land directly or indirectly ruled by Beijing as either a province or Occupied Territory. There will be no more Samsung LG Hyundai whats so ever.

Most of the Kim Chi Bapoks will die and remainders will be ruled directly or indirectly by Chinese.
 
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war is best form of peace

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高丽kingdom AC 918~1392 was wiped out by Genghis Khan, after which they don't have their own control to political power and fell under Chinese control after Chinese rebels took down Genghis Khan's children's regime 元。

http://baike.baidu.com/item/明朝与朝鲜关系
明朝与朝鲜关系

明朝与朝鲜王朝保持着两百余年的友好外交关系。1392年,朝鲜王朝太祖大王李成桂称王,明太祖赐予“朝鲜”国号。两国建立宗藩关系。
明成祖时期,明成祖正式赐予朝鲜国王称号。朝鲜王朝对明朝采取“事大"的尊奉政策。1592年,日本侵略朝鲜。明神宗发兵抗击日军,1598年彻底击败日军。明军两次出兵,与朝鲜军民并肩作战,取得了这场战争的胜利,也在两国关系史上写下光辉的一页。朝鲜王朝视明朝此举为“再造之恩”。明末,随着女真族在东北的崛起,两国关系出现了微妙的变化。1636年,皇太极逼迫朝鲜王朝断绝与明朝的宗藩关系。但朝鲜王朝此后仍然心向明朝,使用崇祯年号,怀念明朝三百余年。三百年间明朝与朝鲜基本上保持着往来聘使的关系。

Sovereign relationship between Ming Emperor & Korean Ruler is Ming Emperor Appointed the Korean Ruler. Korean ruler had to comply with Ming to avoid invasion.

Ming was replaced by 清,and even before Manchurian Qing invaded Ming, they already forced Koreans down to be submissive and compliance.

Qing ruled All of KN & Most of South Korea. Korean King was forced by Qing to surrender his own son as hostage in Chinese territory to assure compliance - this is a sort of practice in China with thousands of years of history. If found non loyal or non compliance the hostage price will be slayed first before a military invasion.
 

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Re: 11 Jinping Tells Trump Who Tells South Koreans,"Korea Used To Be Part of Chinklan

Today's world is absolutely no longer about convincing anyone any more. it is about elimination to see others vanished for good. All differences settled like businesses for once and for all.


http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2017-04-21/doc-ifyepnea4396062.shtml



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  原标题:美媒称中国今年将开建首艘095:性能超美俄主力核潜艇

  参考消息网4月21日报道 美媒称,今年晚些时候,位于黄海边上的中国的新潜艇工厂将开始建造攻击核潜艇,以保证中国军队的潜艇能够在全球成为一支具备强大杀伤力的力量。

  据美国《大众科学》月刊网站4月19日刊登题为《中国正在建设世界最大的核潜艇建造设施》的报道称,在渤船重工的新工厂里,设备安装工作已进入收尾阶段,工厂今年即将投产。渤船重工是中国唯一的核潜艇制造商,出自其工厂的核潜艇包括091型和093型攻击核潜艇,以及092型和094型弹道导弹核潜艇。

  报道称,全新的厂房规模庞大,面积超过43万平方英尺(1英尺约合0.3米——本网注),足以容纳两条平行的生产线,每条生产线一半用于组装潜艇模块,另一半用来在最后给船体安装消声瓦等降噪设备。这里的空间足够同时建造四艘攻击核潜艇(一边组装两套模块,同时为两套已组装好的船体做出厂前的调试)。这些工作完成后,攻击核潜艇就可下线入水。该厂房还可以建造下一代的096型弹道导弹核潜艇。

  据报道,今年晚些时候,该工厂将开始建造首艘095型攻击核潜艇。预计该型号核潜艇将采用高强度单双混合壳体结构、泵喷推进系统以及垂直发射管,其性能将(至少)超过美国“洛杉矶”级3型或俄罗斯“阿库拉”级2型等攻击型核潜艇。(编译/丁超)
 

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The fact of the matter is, some parts of China was part of USA and British and Taiwan was part of Japan too. According to history, that is.
 
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World is fooled into massive total extinction suicide by current civilization, and laying historic territorial claims are all arguments sake, and only factors that will effectively play out to works are:

1. DEATH TOLL
2. RESOLVE
3. FINAL SURVIVORS (after war)


Even the weapons and energies to fight are INTERMEDIATE or MEDIA, which gets consumed for wars. Not the absolute matters at all.

UN & Arbitration Courts ARE JOKES!

Territory finally only translate to resources only. Control of resources will NOT COMPLY TO ANY RULES, especially when the resources become critically rare. No law nor money will be effective to decide and only DEATH & HURT will be effective controls. There is absolutely just text book token meaning to territory other than resources.

I can put yr SG52 flag on every sq meter of planet earth's surface, after I vaporize your 5.5million Pee Sai citizens to gas, your flag all over the globe as memorial to your (hard to remember) existence. Meaningful to claim territory like this?
 

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I have to admit that Trump is smart here. With his disclosure, South Korea is now very pissed with chinkland. With no other allies to rely on, the South Koreans have to rely even more on American and the urggh.....Japanese.
 

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I have to admit that Trump is smart here. With his disclosure, South Korea is now very pissed with chinkland. With no other allies to rely on, the South Koreans have to rely even more on American and the urggh.....Japanese.

Since the very beginning Seoul can never count on China, and actually never had any hope from any where, not even a bit from EU. Japan & US are so weak against Russia & China. This never changed during the past 50 years, except that China became 4X stronger than before. So now they have to die regardlessly. Japan and USA also must die.
 

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I have to admit that Trump is smart here. With his disclosure, South Korea is now very pissed with chinkland. With no other allies to rely on, the South Koreans have to rely even more on American and the urggh.....Japanese.

What's next? Claim Japan to be part of China because of horny Taoist run away with ships full of virgins to look for elixir from order of Qin Shi Huang emperor?
 

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Mongol conquer China conquer Korea means Mongol and Korea all belong to China. Alamak facepalm Chinese logic. Lucky the Japanese did not conquer whole of China in WW2, otherwise Japan also belongs to China.
 

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Mongol conquer China conquer Korea means Mongol and Korea all belong to China. Alamak facepalm Chinese logic. Lucky the Japanese did not conquer whole of China in WW2, otherwise Japan also belongs to China.

Mongol conquer China conquer Korea means Mongol and Korea all belong to China. Alamak facepalm Chinese logic. Lucky the Japanese did not conquer whole of China in WW2, otherwise Japan also belongs to China.

Logic not necessary, forces is everything. All laws also invalid except Newton's law of forces.
 

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a if trump a recalcitrant can b trusted.... 11 actually told him I farked melania in the gents when she was doing modelling.
 

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I have to admit that Trump is smart here. With his disclosure, South Korea is now very pissed with chinkland. With no other allies to rely on, the South Koreans have to rely even more on American and the urggh.....Japanese.

that shit stirer trump is trying to con south korea to pay for protection money, the us aircraft carrier decoy did not work. for me i think if fatty kim take over the south, unification is a good thing. the world will have cheaper samsung and LG and rid of croynism and nepotism that has plagued all political parties.
 

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One belt one road will conquer them all,gotta catch em all!!
 

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History is not effective in restricting future. Today you can make history yield and record the result of your strength, if you have the strength and resolve, USE them to MAKE HISTORY. Genghis Khan did it. 秦始皇 did it too. Hitler did it. Stalin did it. 毛泽东 also did it. As long as it is done, history will be made to record accordingly.

According to history the previous Korean War (25 June 1950 – 27 July 1953) total death toll about 1.2 millions.

Today we can give it 6~8 times and all done within a much shorter time, due to more effective war technologies and weapons. And the certainty will be NO MORE SOUTH KOREA for sure. They are the most vulnerable element in this whole game. KPKB all they can for now, after the war even their fucking ghosts would be too weak to haunt. Kim Jong Nuke can turn them to dust. China and Russia can disperse their dust to other side of the globe. America and Japan are too weak to withstand.

Enough death toll and blood, future will be forged by wars, just like the whole past of planet earth's history. Don't dream of any alternatives.

I am very very sure that to kill 10million Kim Chi is not too hard and Kim Jong Nuke does not need any help. He wont' even need steroids.


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Mongol conquer China conquer Korea means Mongol and Korea all belong to China. Alamak facepalm Chinese logic. Lucky the Japanese did not conquer whole of China in WW2, otherwise Japan also belongs to China.

That also mean China belongs to the Manchurian
 

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Re: 11 Jinping Tells Trump Who Tells South Koreans,"Korea Used To Be Part of Chinklan

Xi is absolutely right. Korea used to be governed by China.
 

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That also mean China belongs to the Manchurian


that's right. until the ROC officially succeeded Qing dynasty in 1912. under international law, a country can acquire territory by war and conquest.
 

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ALL of the Results of Land / Territories changed hands in history are Results of WARS, not peace, not VOTES, not FB LIKE, not opinions, but DEATHS AND BLOOD AND HURT AND DAMAGES, get this right!

It must continue to be exactly the same way. Or else we die of TOTAL EXTINCTION. Koreans forgot reality, American moron president forgot reality, Chinese Chairman also neglected reality - however he at least remembers history.

Korean opinions or desires or cries are absolutely negligible, as they don't even have the ability to fight their own Northern Cousins. Chinese does not need them to vote nor click LIKE on FB, Xi can click Korea on his NUKE SCREEN and nobody can find them again in the whole universe. Protest and KPKB all no count. History they can not change, their own future they are also TOO WEAK TO DECIDE. Japs & Yankees are also too weak to cover their ass. Denying history only bring themselves one step further closer to being nuked. True FUCKTARDS!

Chinese must wake up from being overly Civilized and Kind and Friendly, or idiots like Kim Chi & SG52 expects their crap ideas & opinions to be followed or respected.

弱肉一定要强食,才维持宇宙自然秩序与规则。违反了必定是自取灭亡的。现代文明里的《和平共存》是非常短暂的错误,没有路可以再走下去的.绝对没有。只会有《和平共亡》,绝对没有《和平共存》。继续盲目文明下去只有耗尽地球资源《大家揽住一齐死》。《弱肉强食》消灭淘汰,已经被错误的停止太长时间了。损耗资源损坏地球环境太多了。不立刻纠正就是集体自杀的全球绝灭,就是《和平共亡》。

 
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Re: 11 Jinping Tells Trump Who Tells South Koreans,"Korea Used To Be Part of Chinklan

Why the Korean have such fragile ego? Sinkieland also used to be part of Malaysia and I don't see such strong reaction from sinkies.

If the Korean have such strong sense of national pride then perhaps they should also change their national flag for it was designed by Chinese.
 
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