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Serious Trump drops mother of all bombs on ISIS in Afghanistan. Very good!

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US should have done it long time ago on ISIS. Good warning to North Korea too.

http://www.straitstimes.com/world/u...-bombs-in-afghanistan-pentagon?xtor=EREC-16-1[ST_Newsletter_AM]-20170414-[US+unleashes+%27mother+of+all+bombs%27+for+first+time+against+militants+in+Afghanistan]&xts=538291

US unleashes ‘mother of all bombs’ in Afghanistan, kills 36 ISIS fighters

WASHINGTON (REUTERS) – The United States dropped “the mother of all bombs,” the largest non-nuclear device it has ever unleashed in combat, on a network of caves and tunnels used by ISIS militants in eastern Afghanistan on Thursday (April 13), the military said.

Afghan officials said on Friday (April 14) the strike killed 36 militants of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

President Donald Trump touted the bombing as evidence of a more muscular US foreign policy since he took office in January after eight years of President Barack Obama.



The 9,797kg GBU-43 bomb was dropped from a MC-130 aircraft in the Achin district of Nangarhar province, close to the border with Pakistan, Pentagon spokesman Adam Stump said.

The GBU-43, also known as the “mother of all bombs,” is a GPS-guided munition and was first tested in March 2003. It is regarded as particularly effective against clusters of targets on or just underneath the ground.


It was the first time the United States has used this size of conventional bomb in a conflict.

Trump described the bombing as a “very successful mission.” It was not immediately clear how much damage the device did.

Trump calls Afghanistan bombing 'very successful mission'

During last year’s presidential election campaign, Trump vowed to give priority to destroying ISIS, which operates mostly in Syria and Iraq. He flexed US military muscles last week by ordering a cruise missile attack on a Syrian government airbase in retaliation for a poison gas attack.

“If you look at what’s happened over the last eight weeks and compare that really to what’s happened over the last eight years, you’ll see that there’s a tremendous difference,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Thursday.

The security situation remains precarious in Afghanistan, with a number of militant groups trying to claim territory more than 15 years after the US invasion which toppled the Taleban government.

So far, Trump has offered little clarity about a broader strategy for Afghanistan, where some 8,400 US troops remain.

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Last week, a US soldier was killed in the same district as where the bomb was dropped while he was conducting operations against ISIS.

White House spokesman Sean Spicer said the bombing “targeted a system of tunnels and caves that ISIS fighters used to move around freely, making it easier for them to target U.S. military advisers and Afghan forces in the area.”

Spicer said the bomb was dropped at around 7pm local time and described it as “a large, powerful and accurately delivered weapon.”

US forces took “all precautions necessary to prevent civilian casualties and collateral damage,” he said.

Foreign policy experts said that it appeared the use of such a specialised weapon had more to do with the type of target – tunnels – than the United States sending any message to other countries by using such a powerful weapon.

“This is a very specialised weapon, we don’t have very many of them, you can only use them in a very narrow set of circumstances,” said Mark Cancian, a senior adviser with the Centre for Strategic and International Studies think-tank.

Cancian added that while sending a message to Syria or North Korea could have been among the secondary factors considered, they would not have been the main reason for using this type of weapon.

The top US commander in Afghanistan said recently that he needed several thousand more international troops in order to break a stalemate in the long war with Taleban insurgents.

US officials say intelligence suggests ISIS is based overwhelmingly in Nangarhar and neighbouring Kunar province.

Estimates of its strength in Afghanistan vary. US officials have said they believe the movement has only 700 fighters but Afghan officials estimate it has about 1,500.

The Afghan Taleban, which is trying to overthrow the US-backed government in Kabul, are fiercely opposed to ISIS and the two group have clashed as they seek to expand territory and influence
 

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A useless test of weapon, only serving the Political Propaganda purposes. No tactical nor strategic meaning on the actual war.

Chinese military compared this action of Ang Moh Trump to 金门炮战。 Basically using huge loud speakers and cannons to blast and harass each other only, low practical damages and death toll, almost none.

8 tons of high explosives, only to kill 36 death toll , that is EXTREMELY POOR PERFORMANCE & VERY VERY DESPERATE PROPAGANDAS, Sad USA! Any time you drop just 1/16th of that say 500kg bombs on a HDB block at least can kill 150.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ps-non-nuclear-bomb-afghanistan-islamic-state


36 Isis militants killed in US 'mother of all bombs' attack, says Afghan ministry


GBU-43/B device targeted Isis ‘tunnel complex’ and is the largest non-nuclear bomb US has used in combat
Sean Spicer details use of largest non-nuclear bomb on Isis in Afghanistan

Spencer Ackerman in New York and Sune Engel Rasmussen in Kabul

Friday 14 April 2017 07.27 BST
First published on Thursday 13 April 2017 18.30 BST

Up to 36 suspected Islamic State militants were killed in Afghanistan when the US dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used in combat, the Afghan defence ministry said on Friday.

To target what the military described as a “tunnel complex” used by the Isis’s Afghanistan affiliate, the US for the first time used what the military colloquially calls the “mother of all bombs”, the GBU-43/B.

Dawlat Waziri, an Afghan ministry spokesman said of Thursday’s strike: “No civilian has been hurt and only the base, which Daesh used to launch attacks in other parts of the province, was destroyed.”

Designed for destroying underground targets but not itself a deep-earth penetrator weapon, the GBU-43/B has the explosive yield of more than 11 tons of TNT. The massive bomb is dropped from air force planes and detonates before reaching the ground, resulting in an enormous blast radius. Only the Massive Ordnance Penetrator GBU-57, which has never been used in war, is a larger conventional weapon.

The psychological effect on survivors or observers is considered an added impact of the weapon.

Asked whether he had authorized the bombing, Donald Trump said: “Everybody knows exactly what happened. What I do is I authorize my military. We have the greatest military in the world and they’ve done a job as usual. We have given them total authorization and that’s what they’re doing and frankly that’s why they’ve been so successful lately.”

Did this bombing send a message to North Korea? “I don’t know if this sends a message; it doesn’t make any difference if it does or not,” the president said. “North Korea is a problem, the problem will be taken care of.” He implied that China was “working very hard” on this issue.

Army Gen John W Nicholson, the commander of US forces in Afghanistan, said in a statement that the GBU-43/B was the “right munition” to use against the Islamic State in Khorosan, or Isis-K.

“As Isis-K’s losses have mounted, they are using IEDs, bunkers and tunnels to thicken their defense. This is the right munition to reduce these obstacles and maintain the momentum of our offensive against Isis-K,” Nicholson said.
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The blast detonated at 7.32pm local time in the Achin district of the eastern province of Nangarhar, according to the US military.

Sarab, a local resident from Asadkhel in Achin, close to the mountain where the bomb targeted Isis tunnels, said he saw a giant flame before the blast made the ground shake. “It was the biggest blast I have ever heard,” he said. Sarab added that the targeted area had recently been completely occupied by Isis fighters.

“There is no way that civilians were still living there,” he said.

However, a parliamentarian from Nangarhar, Esmatullah Shinwari, said locals had told him one teacher and his young son had been killed. One man, the MP recounted, had told him before the phone lines went down: “I have grown up in the war, and I have heard different kinds of explosions through 30 years: suicide attacks, earthquakes different kinds of blasts. I have never heard anything like this.”
Phone connections are regularly interrupted in Achin and there were no immediate indication of casualties.

Haji Ghalib Mujahed, a local veteran commander, said he felt “tremors” all the way to Bati Kot, a neighbouring district where he is now the administrative chief.

According to the most recent estimates from the US military in Afghanistan, there are between 600 and 800 Isis-K fighters in the country. Most of them are based in southern Nangarhar province, including in Achin.

An American special forces soldier was killed last week in Achin while fighting Isis-K, but a US military spokesman in Kabul, Capt William Salvin, said there was “absolutely no connection” between that death and Thursday’s bombing.

Nicholson’s command said it took “every precaution to avoid civilian casualties”, without defining those steps, but gave no word on the impact to Afghan civilians.
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The military said it used the GBU-43/B to “minimize the risk” to Afghan and US forces fighting Isis-K in Achin.

Following the bombing, US and Afghan forces began clearing operations in the targeted area.

An Afghan army soldier told the Guardian, as he was driving toward the targeted area: “The explosion felt like a big earthquake, even in the surrounding districts.”
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Trump has said practically nothing about Afghanistan, either as candidate or president. Nicholson told Congress in February that he wanted a few thousand more troops to bolster the 8,400-strong force Barack Obama left to wage America’s longest war, now in its 16th year.

Trump on Wednesday said he would dispatch his national security adviser, HR McMaster, to meet with Nicholson and conduct a policy review. As a three-star army general on active duty, McMaster is outranked by Nicholson, making it difficult for McMaster to resist Nicholson’s recommendations.

The US military is currently facing widespread concerns that its accelerated bombing campaigns in Syria, Iraq and Yemen are increasing civilian casualties. A 17 March strike on a building in Mosul is currently under investigation after killing scores of Iraqis.

US allies have also felt the brunt of escalated US airstrikes. On Thursday, the Pentagon revealed that its Syrian allies in a Kurdish-led ground force, the Syrian Democratic Forces, requested an airstrike on an errant position erroneously believed to be held by Isis. The 11 April strike killed 18 fighters belonging to the Syrian Democratic Forces themselves.

Air Force statistics released on Thursday show that March 2017 was the most intense month of the US-led bombing campaign against Isis in Iraq and Syria, a war nearly three years old. US warplanes fired 3,878 munitions in March, topping January 2017’s previous high of 3,600.

In Afghanistan, US warplanes fired 203 weapons in March, the highest volume since October.
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Hamid Karzai, the former president of Afghanistan installed in 2001 by the US and backed by the international community, tweeted that the bombing meant Afghans needed to “stop the USA”.

Trump said on the campaign trail that he would “bomb the shit” out of Isis.

His spokesman, Sean Spicer, said on Thursday the use of the GBU-43/B showed the US “takes the fight against Isis very seriously and in order to defeat the group we must deny them operational space, which we did”.

Describing the bombing at his regular White House press briefing, he told reporters: “At around 7pm local time in Afghanistan last night the United States military used a GBU-43 weapon in Afghanistan. The GBU-43 is a large, powerful and accurately delivered weapon. We targeted a system of tunnels and caves that Isis fighters used to move around freely, making it easier for them to target US military advisers and Afghan forces in the area.”

He refused to answer further questions about the bomb at his regular press briefing, referring journalists to the Department of Defense.

Additional reporting by David Smith in Washington
 
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Is it? I thought it's pretty impressive to be able to kill ISIS people underground i.e tunnels. Other bombs can? Also, less death toll is good as less civilian casualties.
 

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Donald "DUCKED" Trump, is generating business for the defence industries......don't forget, the 50 Tomahawk Missiles, cost around 1million or 1.5 million each....he fired one MOAB Bomb, that cost 16 million. Altogether he is generating 66 million dollars of business & multiply that for other misc costs..

he is making American Industries GREAT AGAIN... ha ha ha ha
 

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Donald "DUCKED" Trump, is generating business for the defence industries......don't forget, the 50 Tomahawk Missiles, cost around 1million or 1.5 million each....he fired one MOAB Bomb, that cost 16 million. Altogether he is generating 66 million dollars of business & multiply that for other misc costs..

he is making American Industries GREAT AGAIN... ha ha ha ha

66 millions to kill evil is peanut compared to his weekend trips to Florida for nothing that already cost 24 millions in less than 3 months in office.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...obama-eight-years-mar-a-lago-us-a7670541.html

Donald Trump's travel expenses in 10 weeks cost US taxpayers as much as Barack Obama spent in two years

US President has spent seven weekends at Mar-a-Lago since taking office 10 weeks ago

Donald Trump’s trips to his luxury Florida resort have already cost the US taxpayer at least $24 million (£19.2 million) - roughly as much as Barack Obama spent on travel in the first two years of his presidency.

Mr Trump has spent seven weekends at Mar-a-Lago since taking office ten weeks ago. It is estimated that each of these trips costs at least $3 million (£2.4 million), covering the President’s extensive security detail.

In total, Mr Obama's travel bill over the eight years of his presidency came to $97 million (£78 million) - an average of $12.1 million (£9.7 million) a year.
 
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Is it? I thought it's pretty impressive to be able to kill ISIS people underground i.e tunnels. Other bombs can? Also, less death toll is good as less civilian casualties.

potus showing fatty Kim what he can do to his tunnels in NK......... but potus forgot that fatty Kim is mad and will strike back at Japan n SK str away..................................potus' agenda is to deflect attention of his incompetence to NK n Syria
 

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potus showing fatty Kim what he can do to his tunnels in NK......... but potus forgot that fatty Kim is mad and will strike back at Japan n SK str away..................................potus' agenda is to deflect attention of his incompetence to NK n Syria

No. His agenda is to deflect the attention of him being on good terms with Russia. No one talks about it anymore after he bombed Syria etc.
 

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Are u allowed to go about dropping bombs Willy nilly on another sovereign country just like that?What business do they have there anyway.why isn't anyone stopping this USA bullshit?
 

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Moment of impact: Pentagon releases video of MOAB strike

[video=youtube;3g1nd-G9FBc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g1nd-G9FBc&t=0s[/video]
 

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Moment of impact: Pentagon releases video of MOAB strike

[video=youtube;3g1nd-G9FBc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g1nd-G9FBc&t=0s[/video]

fake news, most likely they orchestrate another apollo landing on moon to embezzle the money from taxpayers, and the next very day, a replacement bomb is ready to be used.
 

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Are u allowed to go about dropping bombs Willy nilly on another sovereign country just like that?What business do they have there anyway.why isn't anyone stopping this USA bullshit?


that why it's all fake, assad fake gas attack on citizen, trump fake attack on air strip and next day assad continue to bomb citizens.the week after, tit tit son the secretary of state will get to act in pee soak video
 

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US$314 mil just to kill 34 terrorist.what a dumb deal.

Bankrupted Beggar Ang Moh very Kiasi and Kiasu and DESPERATE. Soon will perish in such struggling.


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Are u allowed to go about dropping bombs Willy nilly on another sovereign country just like that?What business do they have there anyway.why isn't anyone stopping this USA bullshit?

What's wrong for USA to kill bad guys that went round planning terrorist attacks in other equally sovereign countries?
 

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What's wrong for USA to kill bad guys that went round planning terrorist attacks in other equally sovereign countries?

They have been using that excuse since the 1980s already,first it was Taliban,then it was Al Qaeda,now it's ISIS.cmon man,when is the bullshit going to end?The war on terror has been going on for 3 decades.Think about it,maybe the terror attacks is because u refuse to get out of their country.afgan Iraq Syria,where does it end???
 

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yes, used on osama to kill him but didnt happened, so folks, elvis is alive, so is paul wakler
 

ginfreely

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They have been using that excuse since the 1980s already,first it was Taliban,then it was Al Qaeda,now it's ISIS.cmon man,when is the bullshit going to end?The war on terror has been going on for 3 decades.Think about it,maybe the terror attacks is because u refuse to get out of their country.afgan Iraq Syria,where does it end???

Taleban, Al Qaeda or even the terrorists in this forum USA should all send a bomb​ to them, except the Iraq Saddam Hussein case was wrong using excuse of weapons of mass destruction when there was none.
 

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Good that Trump is backtracking to become President of the world instead of just President of USA. There are too many bastards in this world that bully the weak and need outsider strongman USA to send a mother of all bombs​ to these bastards. You can't count on the rulers or citizens of the countries as they are often unjust, unethical and lawless themselves.

A forum is not a country but it's amazing how similar it is to one. There are many bastards bullying the weak in this forum while the owner and moderator condone or even abet the crime and forumers heck care as they have no justice, no ethics and no laws.
 
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