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While HKG Was Busy Building MRT, Shameful PAP and Dr Tony Tan Was Sleeping

gingerlyn

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Dear brothers and sisters,

I just look at Hong Kong MTR and notice that their networks and coverage are so huge compared with Singapore.

Hong Kong MTR was built around mid 1960s and expanding after wards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR

Just look at PAP and what did they do in 1960s? PAP purged the innocent Barisan Socialist such as Lim Chin Siong who just opposed to PAP political ideas. Instead of building Singapore, PAP was wasting Singapore limited resources by fighting internally with Barisan Socialist.

HKG continued to build MTR into the 80s.

what did Singapore PAP do in 1980s? Dr Tony Tan the current 35.2% Singapore president opposed to build MRT in Singapore


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Tan

Shameful and Despicable PAP and please vote wisely and do not believe PAP again!
 

escher

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Smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY withing millimeters or inches from becoming a rotting corpse.
After the night of long knives as PAP go hooting and hooting for the billions and billions leaving Arseloon the Loonie in pieces
And when we finished our yum sengs and dancing on table tops and streets will come the days of piano wires

ALL PAP RUNNING DOGS AND COLLABORATORS WILL BE DANCING AT END OF PIANO WIRES


AND MORE YUM SENGS TO US AND WE GET BACK OUR HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS
AND WE GET SINGAPORE FOR SINGAPOREANS
 

yellowarse

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HK has the best-run and most cost-efficient underground in the world.


The Unique Genius of Hong Kong's Public Transportation System

The use of a clever financing system has enabled the territory to provide world-class service—without breaking the bank.
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Passengers walk out of MTR railway carriage featuring Disney characters in the Sunny Bay station in Hong Kong. (Paul Yeung/Reuters)

New Yorkers are famous for complaining about the city's subway: despite an ever-increasing rise in fares, service never seems to get any better. And even still, ticket-sales still only funds part of the New York City subway system; the city still relies on supplementary taxes and government grants to keep trains running, as fares only cover about 45 percent of the day-to-day operating costs. Capital costs (system expansions, upgrades, and repairs) are an entirely different question, and require more state and federal grants as well as capital market bonds. And New York’s system is not unique: as in other cities, New York struggles to pay existing expenses and must go into debt to pay for upgrades, that is, without raising prices.

Is this problem intractable? Not exactly. Take Hong Kong for example: The Mass Transit Railway (MTR) Corporation, which manages the subway and bus systems on Hong Kong Island and, since 2006, in the northern part of Kowloon, is considered the gold standard for transit management worldwide. In 2012, the MTR produced revenue of 36 billion Hong Kong Dollars (about U.S $5 billion)—turning a profit of $2 billion in the process. Most impressively, the farebox recovery ratio (the percentage of operational costs covered by fares) for the system was 185 percent, the world's highest. Worldwide, these numbers are practically unheard of—the next highest urban ratio, Singapore, is a mere 125 percent.

In addition to Hong Kong, the MTR Corporation runs individual subway lines in Beijing, Hangzhou, and Shenzhen in China, two lines in the London Underground, and the entire Melbourne and Stockholm systems. And in Hong Kong, the trains provide services unseen in many other systems around the world: stations have public computers, wheelchair and stroller accessibility (and the space within the train to store them), glass doors blocking the tracks, interoperable touch-and-go fare payment (which also works as a debit card in local retail), clear and sensible signage, and, on longer-distance subways, first-class cars for people who are willing to pay extra for a little leg space.
How can Hong Kong afford all of this? The answer is deceptively simple: “Value Capture.”

Like no other system in the world, the MTR understands the monetary value of urban density—in other words, what economists call "agglomeration.” Hong Kong is one of the world’s densest cities, and businesses depend on the metro to ferry customers from one side of the territory to another. As a result, the MTR strikes a bargain with shop owners: In exchange for transporting customers, the transit agency receives a cut of the mall’s profit, signs a co-ownership agreement, or accepts a percentage of property development fees. In many cases, the MTR owns the entire mall itself. The Hong Kong metro essentially functions as part of a vertically integrated business that, through a "rail plus property" model, controls both the means of transit and the places passengers visit upon departure. Two of the tallest skyscrapers in Hong Kong are MTR properties, as are many of the offices, malls, and residences next to every transit station (some of which even have direct underground connections to the train). Not to mention, all of the retail within subway stations, which themselves double as large shopping complexes, is leased from MTR.

The profits from these real estate ventures, as well as that 85 percent farebox surplus, subsidize transit development: proceeds pay for capital expansion as well as upgrades. The MTR’s financial largesse means that the transit system requires less maintenance and service interruptions, which in turn reduces operating costs, streamlines capital investments, and encourages more people to use transit to get around. And more customers means more money, even if fares are relatively cheap: most commutes fall between HK $4 and HK$20 (about 50 cents to $3), depending on distance. (In London, by comparison, a Tube journey can cost as much as $18). Fare increases in Hong Kong are limited by regulations linking fares to inflation and profits, and the territory’s government recently started giving a HK $600-per-month travel stipend to low-income households, defined as those earning less than HK $10,000 a month.

This model of transit management works partly because Hong Kong is a closed system: There are no suburbs from which people can commute by car, so there are strong incentives for everyone within the territory to use the system. This feature, combined with other regulations, has kept car ownership low: 6 of every 100 vehicles in Hong Kong are for personal use, whereas the number in the U.S. is closer to 70. And while the NYC subway was built over a century ago and was neglected during much of the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century’s suburban sprawl, Hong Kong’s metro was only developed in the late 1970s. As a result, it doesn’t have to rely on signals technologies from the 1930s that are only slowly being upgraded (hence the track closures in New York).

As an independent corporation with the government serving as majority shareholder (rather than a public agency, ministry, or authority), the MTR has the freedom to develop real estate, to hire and fire who it will, and to take business-minded decisions—whereas other transit systems, including the one in New York, must deal with union contracts and legal restrictions. In Hong Kong, these value charges are often displaced onto consumers, causing real estate prices to go up a little faster than they otherwise might.

Still, value capture is a powerful idea for transit management. New York has tested the waters of this approach with its $2 billion 7-train extension to the Hudson Yards project, working with the state’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority and the project’s developers to fund the extension with property taxes from the newly served area. Dedicated taxes, too, serve a similar purpose. But fundamentally, Hong Kong’s metro succeeds because it understands that a subway system is more than just a means of transportation—it is also essential to the well-being of a city’s population and economy.

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tanwahtiu

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Brit handover HK in 1997.

So you reckon it was a mistake to break up with the Brit and go independence in 1963?




Dear brothers and sisters,

I just look at Hong Kong MTR and notice that their networks and coverage are so huge compared with Singapore.

Hong Kong MTR was built around mid 1960s and expanding after wards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR

Just look at PAP and what did they do in 1960s? PAP purged the innocent Barisan Socialist such as Lim Chin Siong who just opposed to PAP political ideas. Instead of building Singapore, PAP was wasting Singapore limited resources by fighting internally with Barisan Socialist.

HKG continued to build MTR into the 80s.

what did Singapore PAP do in 1980s? Dr Tony Tan the current 35.2% Singapore president opposed to build MRT in Singapore


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Tan

Shameful and Despicable PAP and please vote wisely and do not believe PAP again!
 

yellowarse

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Brit handover HK in 1997.

So you reckon it was a mistake to break up with the Brit and go independence in 1963?

No. HK MTR only turned around in 2006, after the handover, and set the world's gold standard for running transit rail with their 'value capture'.

The problems with our MRT have nothing to do with the Brits (the UK Underground is actually bleeding and losing money) but are due to:

1. All the profits going back to management and shareholders' pockets (in HK profits are ploughed back into maintenance);
2. For the past decade, maintenance was neglected. Instead, focus was on reaping profits from MRT station retail and office rentals and advertising;
3. The tracks were French-built and meant for lightweight alloy train carriages, but to save money SMRT has been buying heavier steel carriages. With increasing population and increasing daily loads, the increased strain on the tracks are causing them to wear and break down at an accelerated pace.

All the problems are surfacing today since the system (train and track) are starting to show their age and parts are reaching their use-by date.
 

blissquek

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Anyone remember Micropolis:confused:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropolis_Corporation

Ho Ching decided to buy this company & in less than a year the company closed its doors.
Another example of "Buy high & sell low" but in this case close doors at a loss:rolleyes:

Something is very wrong here....

How can a family control and make decision on such a big amount of Public funds..????? and hence can be named as the World most powerful family...

The Patriarch....control and decides everything...very decisive and top-down.
The son..The PM..living under the father"s shadow and get the brunt from all sides.
The wife...an engineer by training and now make multi billion financial and investment decision and rank one of the most powerful woman.
The uncle...The Nation President.... Is he for the people or for the family..???

This puzzle me greatly..why all in and from one family??? If the family should fail and what will happen to the country...??

Incidentally, I read a small portion of Tommy Koh "s book.. where he mentioned about the US Congress..

There are 435 members in the House of Representatives.
There are 100 Senators in the Senate......total 535 members in the Two Houses.

535 senior statesmen made decision before a Bill can be passed...

Compare to our Parliament...A controlled Parliament..( where generals and soldiers are catapulted to Parliament without winning a single electoral vote to do what they do best..i.e to take orders) and a place where genuine voices are drown ..

So this explain how our so call Democratic system works...
 
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wMulew

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Dumbfuck opposition supporting retards. During the 60s, SG have high violent crime rate, secret society rule the streets, racial violence, high corruption rate and the with Indonesia because we were part of Malaysia. The government of the day have better things to do than build MRT
 

Asterix

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Dumbfuck opposition supporting retards. During the 60s, SG have high violent crime rate, secret society rule the streets, racial violence, high corruption rate and the with Indonesia because we were part of Malaysia. The government of the day have better things to do than build MRT

Dumbfuck PAP supporting retard, wMulew. During the 60s, HK had triads, corruption was everywhere, squatter communities were bursting at the seams as mainland Chinese escaped from Mao's insanities, there were riots on the streets inspired by Mao's Cultural Revolution just across the border, blah, blah, blah. Yet, the government of the day did what was necessary for the good of the People. That my dear dumbfuck PAP supporting retard, wMulew, is what is meant by MULTI-TASKING, something which your overpaid masters are clearly incapable of.

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wMulew

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Dumbfuck PAP supporting retard, wMulew. During the 60s, HK had triads, corruption was everywhere, squatter communities were bursting at the seams as mainland Chinese escaped from Mao's insanities, there were riots on the streets inspired by Mao's Cultural Revolution just across the border, blah, blah, blah. Yet, the government of the day did what was necessary for the good of the People. That my dear dumbfuck PAP supporting retard, wMulew, is what is meant by MULTI-TASKING, something which your overpaid masters are clearly incapable of.

:oIo::kma:

Dumbfuck retard, while HK was busy building the MTR, SG was busy solving those issue. We now have those issues solved and also have a good MRT system while HK is still struggling with the same issue from 50 years ago.
 

Asterix

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Dumbfuck retard, while HK was busy building the MTR, SG was busy solving those issue. We now have those issues solved and also have a good MRT system while HK is still struggling with the same issue from 50 years ago.

Dumbass FUCKTARD wMulew, we are talking about the 60s and your claim is that during that era SG has to solve other problems so no time to think about building MRT then. My point is that in the 60s, the very same era, Hong Kong has the same kind of problems and bigger in magnitude too and yet managed to solve them while at the same time commencing work on their MTR. HK Ministers know how to multi-task and overpaid Sinkies Ministers can't. That is the bottomline. Go stick your head in the toilet if you can't understand this.

:oIo::kma:
 
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wMulew

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Dumbass FUCKTARD wMulew, we are talking about the 60s and your claim is that during that era SG has to solve other problems so no time to think about building MRT then. My point is that in the 60s, the very same era, Hong Kong has the same kind of problems and bigger in magnitude too and yet managed to solve them while at the same time commencing work on their MTR. HK Ministers know how to multi-task and overpaid Sinkies Ministers can't. That is the bottomline. Go stick your head in the toilet if you can't understand this.

:oIo::kma:

Dumbfuck opposition supporting retard. I just mentioned the Hong Kong problem is still not resolved to this day. Unlike Hong Kong, Singapore Government thinks getting rid of Secret Society and rampant corruption as priority over building a train system
 

hockbeng

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Dumbfuck retard, while HK was busy building the MTR, SG was busy solving those issue. We now have those issues solved and also have a good MRT system while HK is still struggling with the same issue from 50 years ago.

There will always be problems at anyone time for everyone.
You just have to solve them and cannot be used as an excuse to neglect other stuff.
 

Asterix

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Dumbfuck opposition supporting retard. I just mentioned the Hong Kong problem is still not resolved to this day. Unlike Hong Kong, Singapore Government thinks getting rid of Secret Society and rampant corruption as priority over building a train system

Dumbfuck PAP supporting FUCKtard. Singapore got rid of secret societies? To be replaced by another type of secret society, many times worse, and the logo is Lightning. Even willing to sacrifice the rule of law, your only major advantage over neighbouring countries who have far more land and natural resources then your Little Red Dot, to keep themselves in power. Sinkieland has far more corruption then the State Propaganda Machine cares to report. SG Gahbrament cannot multi-task but can control Shit Times so spin as priority. Now, the train system that was built late has another problem - it fucking hell breaks down too often and smells like shit with all those imported low skilled Ah Nehs.

:oIo: :kma:
 
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