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AIM - The curious case of the tender notice with no details

Confuseous

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What is the tender about?

First and foremost, the project description is ludicrously vague. What does “THE DEVELOPED APPLICATION SOFTWARE” refer to? What is the software and what does it do? How does the software work – standalone on a personal computer, or over a network? What platform does the software operate on, say Windows or Macintosh or even Linux? And again, and obviously most importantly, what is the software and what does it do?

And it only says “CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE” – but who is doing the purchasing? On the face of it, it almost sounds like the Town Councils were looking to buy some software to be developed for it, instead of looking to sell already-developed software.

The project description is also incomplete. It only talks about the “PURCHASE” of the software – but it turns out that the contract was not just for the Town Councils to sell the software, but also for a license-back by the purchaser to the Town Councils with continuing obligations to provide support and maintenance to the Town Councils.

The tender notice is so vague as to its subject matter, that one has to question its effectiveness in attracting bids. Companies that could have been well-placed to perform the contract and put in a competitive bid would probably not have been able to tell that this tender was suitable for them.

The absolute absence of information in the Town Councils’ tender notice is also striking when compared with the other three similar notices on this page, which contained enough detail for a reader to immediately understand what they were about. (These three notices were a call for expressions of interest for the supply of chemicals and chemical management services for a stream-water system in India with many paragraphs of details; a tender notice for the sale of a petrol station site at Punggol Road, on a 30-year lease with a site area of 1981.1 sq m and a maximum gross floor area of 990.55 sq m; and a call for expressions of interest for the operation and management of a company cafeteria, to provide three meals a day (with Western, chinese, Malay and Indian food) for seven days a week.)

Pay $214, to find out more

As if the lack of detail was not enough, the Town Councils imposed a $214 fee (inclusive of GST) for obtaining the tender documents. So not only was the notice absurdly lacking in detail, the PAP even expected potential tenderers to pay for the privilege of finding out just what this mysterious tender notice was about.

While it is not uncommon to charge a fee to obtain full tender documents (for instance, the HDB notice for the sale of the petrol station site included a $52.50 fee for this), the combination of the absence of information and the fee may well have deterred potential bidders from finding out more.

Based on press reports, five companies (including Action Information Management Pte Ltd) did pay the $214 fee. But one has to wonder just who the other four companies were, and how many more companies would have done so if the tender notice had contained more details.

Compliance with financial rules and best practices?

Dr. Teo Ho Pin, coordinating chairman for the PAP Town Councils, has emphatically asserted that the tender complied with the applicable rules. But it is questionable whether that is in fact correct.


Paragraph 74 of the Town Council Financial Rules (based on the latest version available on the database at agc.statute.gov.sg) prescribes the requirements for a tender called by a Town Council to procure goods and services. But the Rules seem to be silent on the process for disposing of Town Council assets that have not been written-off; the Rules require written-off assets to be disposed of by public auction or tender, but clearly the Town Council Management Software was still in use and valuable, and so would not have been written-off.

While the tender for the Town Council Management Software affair involved a sale of software, it also involved the procurement of subsequent services in the form of the license-back of the software and continuing maintenance and support. It is therefore reasonable to expect paragraph 74 of the Rules to apply.

But paragraph 74(5) requires the advertisement for a tender to contain “the minimum information necessary for the tenderers to know what stores, services or works are required, [and] the period of the contract”. Clearly, the tender notice published by the PAP Town Councils on 30 June 2010 did not satisfy either of those requirements.

Paragraph 74(6) also required the tender to be open for at least three weeks in this case, unless the Town Council chairman or his authorized officer approved a shorter period and the reasons for this are recorded and disclosed to the Town Council. The TCMS tender was open for only two weeks, and it is not yet apparent whether the necessary approvals were obtained and if so what the reasons were.

It is also not clear why the PAP Town Councils did not call for a fresh tender, when they received only one bid from a PAP-owned company. The Ministry of Finance’s website (see here) provides some guidance on what a government agency should do when it receives only one bid. Strictly speaking, the Town Councils are not government agencies and so are not bound by the MOF rules, but surely those rules represent best practices for custodians of public funds which Town Councils should follow.

The MOF starts by advising government agencies to take certain measures “to increase the likelihood that they will receive an adequate number of competitive bids” – something that the tender notice by the PAP Town Councils was manifestly inadequate for. One of the measures was to alert potential suppliers to the tender if necessary; it is not clear in this case whether the Town Councils had asked National Computer Systems, who had developed the TCMS in the first place, to tender for the project.

The MOF does recognize that if an agency has taken steps to ensure an adequate number of competitive bids, and that only one bid is received, then it has no obligation to reject it because the bid could be competitive. But the agency must still assess the reasonableness of the bid.

In particular, the MOF states: “When recommending the award of a quotation/tender based on a single bid, officers are required to justify to the Approving Authority why the single bid is considered competitive or reflective of fair market value. For example, they may have performed independent checks or consulted experienced buyers.” It is not clear at all whether the PAP Town Councils did any of this when they received only the single bid by AIM, or what were the justifications for believing AIM’s bid to be “competitive or reflective of fair market value”.

So many unanswered questions

There are clearly many questions that remain unanswered. Unfortunately, the PAP, through Dr. Teo’s exchanges with Ms. Sylvia Lim in recent days, seems bent on focusing the public attention on the statements of the Workers’ Party, instead of answering these important questions around the disposal of a public asset developed using public funds. This is misguided, and does not serve the public interest.

In any event, the Online Citizen has asked Dr. Teo for his responses to the following questions:

1) Why was the project description so vague that it was impossible to ascertain what the subject-matter of the tender was?
2) This tender was open for two weeks. What is the usual period for a tender of this nature?
3) Is it normal practice for Town Councils to charge a fee for obtaining tender documents? If so, how is the rate determined?
4) Apart from AIM, who else obtained a copy of the tender documents?
5) Is the PAP going to publish a copy of the tender documents, in the interests of transparency and clearing the air? If not, why not?
6) When only one proposal from AIM was received, did the Town Councils consider the option of calling for a fresh tender with more information in the notice?
7) If the Town Councils did consider this, why did they not call a fresh tender?


As of press time, TOC has not yet received any answers from Dr. Teo.

The author is writing under a pseudonym for professional purposes.

- http://theonlinecitizen.com/2012/12/the-curious-case-of-the-tender-notice-with-no-details/
 

scroobal

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This is just too much. Already Dr Teo is struggling to answer the first set of questions, more are being raised. The poor chap will perceived as being incompetent at this rate. It bad enough being perceived as dishonest, now incompetent as well.
 

scroobal

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I wonder with such vague and simple description and having to fork out $200 plus for the tender documents, could the other participated for wayang sake. Could someone confirm if the any of the 4 companies have directors that are PAP members, grassroot leaders or CDC or town council members. For an organisation that wears white, time to show a clean pair of hands does exist.
 
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rusty

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This is just too much. Already Dr Teo is struggling to answer the first set of questions, more are being raised. The poor chap will perceived as being incompetent at this rate. It bad enough being perceived as dishonest, now incompetent as well.

Dogtor Teo should save his own skin now by admitting he acted under the instructions of the PM and quit politics for good.
 

halsey02

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I wonder with such vague and simple description and having to fork out $200 plus for the tender documents, could the other participated for wayang sake. Could someone confirm if the any of the 4 companies have directors that are PAP members, grassroot leaders or CDC or town council members. For an organisation that wears white, time to show a clean pair of hands does exist.

It is whiter than white, how white can this get?? The white, like those old garment, that are kept too long in the wardrobe, is becoming moldy & is stained yellow. This is what is happening to the organization that wears white, that is whiter than white!!
 

Confuseous

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This is just too much. Already Dr Teo is struggling to answer the first set of questions, more are being raised. The poor chap will perceived as being incompetent at this rate. It bad enough being perceived as dishonest, now incompetent as well.

Usually perception is unfair. But in this case, for the MP talking big over the years, the reality is that he IS incompetent. For someone taking the lead in the project, any executive should have all the facts at his finger tips and rattle them off. As it is, even his 'mentor' Chandra Das has suddenly gone quiet. The latter's release of selected correspondence between WP and PAP only serve to fuel the perception that things are murkier than made out to be. There must be good reason for not releasing all the correspondence.
 

po2wq

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like ah palmer's case, ah hean shud juz called a press conference 4 dem 4 n declare their resignations ... dat 154th shud den blast stories of their resignations wif honor ...
 

The_Hypocrite

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+ also he is doing the dirty work for his master,,and he has to keep his master's nose clean,,so cannot say Pinky ask me to do it,,,another sacrificial lamb in the fire..

I really have to comment on the good work WP is doing,,since the last erection, WP has turned the tables on the PAP making a good situation out of a bad thing,,this is a real credit to LTK and WP...all the more reason,,why I support WP and not the 3rd rate oppos

This is just too much. Already Dr Teo is struggling to answer the first set of questions, more are being raised. The poor chap will perceived as being incompetent at this rate. It bad enough being perceived as dishonest, now incompetent as well.
 
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streetsmart73

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hi there



1. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
2. machiam more than the mountain bike thing leh:rolleyes:
3. so much for some corporate governance!
4. my foot:p
 

cass888

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Why not tell us more about How Weng Fun's ownership of FMSS then.

This is just too much. Already Dr Teo is struggling to answer the first set of questions, more are being raised. The poor chap will perceived as being incompetent at this rate. It bad enough being perceived as dishonest, now incompetent as well.
 

Unrepented

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Since the tender specifications and descriptions are vague, I wonder if any of the participants raised any questions to seek further information, if so where are the correspondances, if any at all:(

I wonder with such vague and simple description and having to fork out $200 plus for the tender documents, could the other participated for wayang sake. Could someone confirm if the any of the 4 companies have directors that are PAP members, grassroot leaders or CDC or town council members. For an organisation that wears white, time to show a clean pair of hands does exist.
 

TracyTan866

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This is just too much. Already Dr Teo is struggling to answer the first set of questions, more are being raised. The poor chap will perceived as being incompetent at this rate. It bad enough being perceived as dishonest, now incompetent as well.

The pap has deceived too many for too long. With total control of SG media in the 1960s to 1990s, the pap got carried away and became too complacent. Dishonesty, incompetency are being exposed.

From what's revealed so far, Teo Ho Pin deserves what's thrown at him.


Are there more to be exposed?
 

Fook Seng

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There is a very simple explanation to this debacle - not corruption, not for greater efficiency. The answer is simple: to fix the Opposition the ruling party is willing to do anything.
 
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