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I intend to call a by-election in Hougang: PM Lee

Muthukali

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Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong will call for by-elections in Hougang.

This is PM Lee's full reply in Parliament to PAP MP Christopher de Souza's question on a by-election in Hougang:

The Hougang Single Member Constituency (SMC) seat is vacant after the Workers' Party expelled Mr Yaw Shin Leong, following several weeks of media reports on Mr Yaw's personal indiscretions. I intend to call a by-election in Hougang to fill this vacancy. However, I have not yet decided on the timing of the by-election. In deciding on the timing, I will take into account all relevant factors, including the well being of Hougang residents, issues on the national agenda, as well as the international backdrop which affects our prosperity and security.

As for the legal question of whether and when I must call a by-election, an application has been filed in court concerning this, so the matter is now sub judice, i.e. under the consideration of the court. While MPs enjoy parliamentary immunity in this House, our parliamentary convention is that we do not talk about matters which are sub judice, for good reason.

I can, however, remind Members that Parliament debated this issue extensively in 2008, when two NMPs moved a motion proposing to require the Prime Minister to call a by-election within three months of a seat falling vacant. I participated in that debate, and stated the Government's position fully, after taking the advice of the Attorney-General. I consulted the present Attorney-General again to confirm his advice before answering today's question. Let me summarise what I said in 2008 about the Constitutional position.

Article 49 of the Constitution states that when a seat falls vacant it shall be filled by election. In an SMC, a seat falls vacant when the MP vacates his office, for example when he is expelled from his political party, resigns his seat, or passes away. The timing of the by-election is at the discretion of the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is not obliged to call a by-election within any fixed timeframe.

This absence of any stipulated time frame is the result of a deliberate decision by Parliament to confer on the Prime Minister the discretion to decide when to fill a Parliamentary vacancy. Then-Prime Minister Mr Lee Kuan Yew explained this when he moved the Constitutional amendment in December 1965:

"[This amendment] revokes a clause which was introduced into the State Constitution of Singapore when it entered Malaysia.

Members in this House will know that there was no such injunction of holding a by-election within three months in our previous Constitution. We resisted this particular condition being imposed upon the State Constitution at the time we entered Malaysia, but our representations were not accepted because Malaysia insisted on uniformity of our laws with the other States in the Federation and with the Federal Constitution itself.

Since we are no longer a part of the Federal whole, for reasons which we find valid and valuable as a result of our own experience of elections and of government in Singapore, we have decided that this limitation should no longer apply."

The Constitution therefore reflects a political philosophy that emphasises stable government, and the view that in elections voters are primarily choosing between political parties to be given the mandate to govern the country, rather than between individual candidates to become MPs. We have kept the Constitutional provision because the considerations for enacting it in 1965 remain relevant today.
 

po2wq

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tis shud bcum a classic eg of how u nid 2 sink ur spurs in2 sum burgerz thick hides b4 dey wil mov ...
 

Clone

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That's a mere 1 seat out of 87.

Hougang should have a BE but why the buzz & fuss over 1 seat?
 

Ramseth

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That's a mere 1 seat out of 87.

Hougang should have a BE but why the buzz & fuss over 1 seat?

PAP doesn't have a suitable candidate for a respectable margin. Desmond Choo returned the 2nd lowest score for PAP in Hougang 2011 (after Andy Gan in Potong Pasir 1991). Where else to find and who else would volunteer to make a fool of him/herself in a Hougang BE? Whereas, WP has 2 or 3 good candidates lined up and ready.

It's already obvious PAP has been scraping the bottom of their barrel in GE 2011, with the discrepancy in quality of their slate of candidates that we've seen.
 
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po2wq

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PAP doesn't have a suitable candidate for a respectable margin. Desmond Choo returned the 2nd lowest score for PAP in Hougang 2011 (after Andy Gan in Potong Pasir 1991). Where else to find and who else would volunteer to make a fool of himself in a Hougang BE? ...
simply anyhow get 1 cannon fodder 2 accidentally fil up form wrongly n kena disqualified la ...

save time, save moni ...

can save face sum mor ... :eek:
 
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Narong Wongwan

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simply anyhow get 1 cannon fodder 2 accidentally fil up form wrongly n kena disqualified la ...

save time, save moni ...

can save face sum mor ... :eek:
or throw in an ex-heavyweight minister come out from retirement..........as long as not WKS or MBT think can garner 35% same same percentage as TT's PE result
 

BlueWave

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i propose khaw boon wan to resign from sembawang grc and take on hougang smc since he has such a bloody big mouth.
 

Raiders

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i propose khaw boon wan to resign from sembawang grc and take on hougang smc since he has such a bloody big mouth.

We dont need an MP who failed his maths and economics. $8 for a heart bypass, $1000 for a pigeion hole :biggrin:
 

Ramseth

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simply anyhow get 1 cannon fodder 2 accidentally fil up form wrongly n kena disqualified la ...

save time, save moni ...

can save face sum mor ... :eek:

Fortunately for PAP, you're not their political adviser. PAP has a track record of never committing technical error and never conceding walkover. Lose more face!

PAP is very good with numbers and stats. Had YSL scored lower than LTK in Hougang 2011, they might not be so worried. But YSL scored higher than LTK even after HDB took down an entire precinct of WP traditional core support in the Blocks 2 to 6 wet market vicinity. What does that mean? It can't possibly be that YSL is better or more popular than LTK, no way by any stretch of imagination. Therefore, it means that Hougang is WP entrenched and any WP candidate will do. What's wrong with losing in a ward again that has already been lost anyway? More than embarrassment, it can sway nationwide sentiments with BE as focal point.
 

laksaboy

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That's a mere 1 seat out of 87.

Hougang should have a BE but why the buzz & fuss over 1 seat?

Because, just like a football game, an election (or by-election) is governed by rules and laws. You cannot change the rules on a petty whim.

Under such a circumstance, there must be a by-election. There should be nothing more to 'discuss' or 'negotiate'. If you're going to ignore this fundamental electoral law for the sake of political convenience, you might as well cut all pretense and abolish elections entirely.
 

sleaguepunter

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But YSL scored higher than LTK even after HDB took down an entire precinct of WP traditional core support in the Blocks 2 to 6 wet market vicinity. What does that mean? It can't possibly be that YSL is better or more popular than LTK, no way by any stretch of imagination.

of course ave 3 vote WP lah. KNN, 2006 eric low promise upgrade the wet market but wet market kenna demolish in 2007 after eric low kenna rejected. Now the nearest wet market those residents can go is street 21 or lor ah soo, ppl sure tulan and vote WP enmass in 2011. support for WP are not exactly earn by WP hard work but a part are due to ppl tulan pap always find new way to "punish" the residents for voting in WP. cancelled bus route, no CC in the early years, then a hand-me-down CC when punggol CC move out, no upgrade, no facilities, cannot have pavements, cannot upgrade lift even with TC own money, purposely tear down ave 3 blocks of flat after HGTC spent $$ upgrading them and last but not least, demolished only wet market after losing in GE.
 

streetsmart73

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PAP doesn't have a suitable candidate for a respectable margin. Desmond Choo returned the 2nd lowest score for PAP in Hougang 2011 (after Andy Gan in Potong Pasir 1991). Where else to find and who else would volunteer to make a fool of him/herself in a Hougang BE? Whereas, WP has 2 or 3 good candidates lined up and ready.

It's already obvious PAP has been scraping the bottom of their barrel in GE 2011, with the discrepancy in quality of their slate of candidates that we've seen.


hi there


1. ram, bingo!
2. this is buying time too.
3. adding on: if from the be, sheep still lose big time.
4. no face, no cry, no prick!
 

streetsmart73

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hi there


1. hope that ah pink considers getting georgie boy to come in.
2. 101% guaranteed, stamped & chop, sucks big time.
 

Khun Ying Pojaman

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Is there a "face-saving" speech ? It is as if PM knows that the Court will likely rule that he does NOT have an unfettered discretion whether or not to call a by-election. So he has come out of his own and claims he wants to call a by-election, and not wait for the Court to "overrule" him, and worse still, undermine him.

He is making it sound as if he was "misinterpreted" when he said he hadn't decided when to call a by-election as he had more pressing national issues. Now that makes his runners who claimed that the PM had absolute discretion not to call a by-election very maloo.
 
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Khun Ying Pojaman

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So PM contradicts his own SC qualified MP ?

Over the last nine days, Mr Hri Kumar, a Senior Counsel, and Assistant Professor Tan, a law lecturer at the Singapore Management University, have written to Today trading legal arguments and personal views on the issue.

The exchange was triggered by a commentary by Asst Prof Tan published in this newspaper on Feb 20. This sparked a robust response from Mr Hri Kumar, which in turn drew a reply from Asst Prof Tan. The latest salvo was another reply on Tuesday from Mr Hri Kumar.

In his latest letter published in the newspaper's Voices Section on Wednesday, Mr Hri Kumar reiterated that when a General Election or a by-election is to be called is "entirely at the discretion of the Prime Minister. There is no obligation to call an immediate by-election."

Mr Hri Kumar added: "Contrary to what (Asst Prof Tan) wrote, Article 49 of the Constitution does not say that an election shall be 'called' to fill a vacant seat. It simply prescribes that the vacant seat 'shall be filled by election'."
 

streetsmart73

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Is there a "face-saving" speech ? It is as if PM knows that the Court will likely rule that he does NOT have an unfettered discretion whether or not to call a by-election. So he has come out of his own and claims he wants to call a by-election, and not wait for the Court to "overrule" him, and worse still, undermine him.

He is making it sound as if he was "misinterpreted" when he said he hadn't decided when to call a by-election as he had more pressing national issues. Now that makes his runners who claimed that the PM had absolute discretion not to call a by-election very maloo.


hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. the minimum ah pink can do: cry or
3. hide under or between the butchman's pants or
4. wait for its grand master's instructions.
 

streetsmart73

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So PM contradicts his own SC qualified MP ?

Over the last nine days, Mr Hri Kumar, a Senior Counsel, and Assistant Professor Tan, a law lecturer at the Singapore Management University, have written to Today trading legal arguments and personal views on the issue.

The exchange was triggered by a commentary by Asst Prof Tan published in this newspaper on Feb 20. This sparked a robust response from Mr Hri Kumar, which in turn drew a reply from Asst Prof Tan. The latest salvo was another reply on Tuesday from Mr Hri Kumar.

In his latest letter published in the newspaper's Voices Section on Wednesday, Mr Hri Kumar reiterated that when a General Election or a by-election is to be called is "entirely at the discretion of the Prime Minister. There is no obligation to call an immediate by-election."

Mr Hri Kumar added: "Contrary to what (Asst Prof Tan) wrote, Article 49 of the Constitution does not say that an election shall be 'called' to fill a vacant seat. It simply prescribes that the vacant seat 'shall be filled by election'."


hi there


1. is there any difference between some snake & an ah neh?
2. aiyoh!
3. both equally have some mouth piece.
 
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