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sgcount, you are in good company! I am pathetically hopeful while you are sympathetic hopeful. LOL!:D

If Bin Centre also can be classy, long kang also can, just give it a nice sounding name!:D

In my view, your 20-year property example and your friend's stocks example brings home the point that one makes decision based on then available knowledge he has. He can't know the future for certain regarding what would happen 5 years or 10 years down the road. A lot of assumptions need to be...

Yep, very much agree with the assessment here of KSL. They are not Haagen Daaz premium brand type, more of the Walls type of ice cream, in my view. They won't chup lup or run road. Condo project wise, if they can do something like KSL City and do it slightly better, I am happy liao. Yesterday...

Unless the VEP are priced prohibitively so high, it would be unlikely that Singaporeans would avoid JB, because it is still the most nearest and cheapest holiday destination outside Singapore that one can go with own car. MY side just want to collect revenue, not so much control car population...

Money loss is definitely precious, but as you have noted the consolation is that the losses sustained is lesser compared to if that person has decided to buy a "bao jiak" condo in SG but which turned into a big loss that far exceeds the full price of a JB condo. Losing $250K is much less painful...

Quite true. If 2 persons buy the same condo project, one decides to hold while the other listens to advice to cut losses and bails out and loses all he had put in so far, but 10 years later the one holding on sells for a profit, then what? Advice giver owes nothing to anyone and bears no...

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em! :D Go with the flow and enjoy the ride. :)

Probably, though it seems from the pictures they are doing some beautifying works. But perhaps you are using the word messy in a different sense.I guess for some people "everywhere" in JB Central is considered messy. For others the whole of Johor is messy, and still for others the whole Malaysia...

Haha! Thanks! Hope so...hope so... :p

Congratulations! Hopefully I can also develop itchy fingers in the near future. LOL!

Perhaps it is probably the case that buying a JB condo is a sure loss venture. But that loss can still be tolerable for some. But SG condos are not all sure wins either, and the loss from them can sometimes be more painful. Its like falling down 3 steps is less painful than falling down 3...

Convert to town house concept. :D

Well, it shows that their national cars are in high demand...even thefts are patriotic! LOL!:D

So buying MY made cars means you have an 80% chance of it being stolen!:eek:

Costs of doing business going up in Singapore..,,even a bin centre (sounds like a shopping mall for collecting trash LOL!) can cost almost $900K:eek:

I suppose higher costs in Malaysia may also be an indication that it is more affluent and progressing well?

I suppose that is why many are incentivised to put up with the inconveniences of working in SG so that they can bring back the paycheck to spend in JB. On the other hand, some peasants like me who work in SG and feel the high cost in SG may choose to spend in Johor.:)

In Singapore $2.50 probably cannot even buy a plate of wan ton mee, or very hard to find. Usually is $3.00. Or if can find a plate of noodles also very small plate. This translates to RM7.50. I had Yit Foh wan ton noodles yesterday. Big bowl was RM6.50 if I remember. 2 balls of noodles jiak...

Also depends on which street you are walking alone at 1am. :p