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Chitchat How Big Sugar Enlisted Harvard Scientists to Influence How We Eat

Leongsam said:
I was consuming too many energy gels thinking that they were doing a great job powering my ride.

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I have a couple of pals formerly in the commandos and they love energy gels. Any super hard workout, will down loads of it. Seems to be pretty much a staple too amongst their peers.
 
Thick Face Black Heart said:
I have a couple of pals formerly in the commandos and they love energy gels. Any super hard workout, will down loads of it. Seems to be pretty much a staple too amongst their peers.
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doing high intensity exercise,u burn glycogen in ur muscles quickly,once u have depleted ur glycogen stores ur muscles has the ability to carry,running on empty is the worst feeling ever,ur muscles feel weak like u are unable to stand let alone walk,ur entire body breaks out in cold sweats and u feel the weirdest hunger pangs.iv felt this a couple times before during NS and cycling.normally ur body reaches this point after 45 mins to an hour of exercise,but eating gels or a handful of gummy bears during ur workout which are a instant source of simple carbohydrates that can be digested easily and converted into glycogen and help elevate ur blood sugar.it helps to delay the outcome for sometime.
 
frenchbriefs said:
doing high intensity exercise,u burn glycogen in ur muscles quickly,once u have depleted ur glycogen stores ur muscles has the ability to carry,running on empty is the worst feeling ever,ur muscles feel weak like u are unable to stand let alone walk,ur entire body breaks out in cold sweats and u feel the weirdest hunger pangs.iv felt this a couple times before during NS and cycling.normally ur body reaches this point after 45 mins to an hour of exercise,but eating gels or a handful of gummy bears during ur workout which are a instant source of simple carbohydrates that can be digested easily and converted into glycogen and help elevate ur blood sugar.it helps to delay the outcome for sometime.
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Yeah I have felt the "running on empty" feeling so many times. That's where the mental part really comes into play. Became a huge night snack eater. Last time we were given nothing but hard tack biscuits for outfield unlike the luxurious combat rations that NS enlistees are given nowadays which are even better than SFI food. Always finished mine the quickest. Developed liking for hard cookies since then.
 
johnny333 said:
Sugar is probably a contributor to the high rates of cancer we are seeing today.
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Yes, and I dare say sugar is certainly one of the two main activators of "cancer genes" to produce cancer cells, like what I've said before in another thread:
sammyboy.com/showthread.php?235124-Chemotherapy-a-friend-just-want-for-it&p=2506131#post2506131
flatearther said:
Leongsam said:
The best defense against cancer is "good genes". Nothing else such as diet, lifestyle, religion etc makes a scrap of difference.
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I agree. ;)

But just like "fat genes" have to be activated by an unhealthy diet and lack of exercise before such a person can become fat (and I think you will agree with me on this because you've posted about this issue before), people with "cancer genes" can only contract cancer if those "cancer genes" are activated by an unhealthy diet, mainly meat and sugar:

Sugar Doesn't Just Feed Cancer, It Causes Cancer - Cancer Defeated Newsletter #77
cancerdefeated.com/newsletters/Sugar-feeds-cancer-and-causes-cancer.html
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And here are the key sections from the above long article I linked to:

There's something different about fructose. I'm going to briefly explain what it is. If you have a taste for science and you'd like to know the details, check out a 90-minute Youtube lecture by an M.D. named Robert Lustig, Professor of Pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco.

Dr. Lustig is an expert on child obesity and a leading critic of sugar — both table sugar and HFCS — because both these sugars basically come down to fructose. He's the source of most of what was in the New York Times Magazine article and most of what I'm telling you here.

He didn't conduct the scientific studies himself, but he's a very effective speaker and he passionately believes sugar is a poison. He actually uses the word "poison" 13 times in his lecture. You can quickly find his talk by Googling "Sugar: The Bitter Truth".

[video=youtube;dBnniua6-oM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM[/video]

Sugar: The Bitter Truth - UCTV - University of California Television
http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Sugar-The-Bitter-Truth-16717
("Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin. Recorded on 05/26/2009.")

The two-minute explanation of how fructose messes you up

The quick summary is that, unlike glucose, fructose has to be metabolized in the liver by way of a very complex and inefficient process. Your digestive system quickly breaks down a potato or a grain of rice into glucose, the "good" sugar. The glucose then passes through your intestinal wall into your bloodstream, and your cells are able to take it up and "eat it" with no problem.

Not so with fructose. Your liver has to convert fructose into glucose, the food your cells can take up. It's about like trying to turn a bowl of fish soup into a fish. The resulting process is so complex it puts a great strain on the liver. And here's the thing researchers say is key: 30 percent of the fructose is converted into fat and stays in your liver.

The growing load of fat in your liver causes disastrous damage over a period of many years. It appears to be the main cause of "metabolic syndrome" or "insulin resistance syndrome" — the breakdown in your insulin system that leads to heart disease, diabetes, hypertension — and cancer.

Glucose good (sort of), fructose bad (definitely)

If you eat "good" glucose-generating carbs, only one calorie out of five is stored in the liver. What's more, it's stored in a harmless form called glycogen. Your liver can store any amount of glycogen without getting sick.

When you eat fructose, three calories out of five are stored in the liver — three times as many as when you eat glucose. And the fructose calories are stored in the liver as a highly toxic fat.

The researchers in the field believe this accumulation of toxic fat in the liver is THE cause of the chronic degenerative diseases such as cancer and heart disease.

Fructose is a dietary catastrophe

According to Dr. Lustig, eating a high-fructose diet is effectively like eating a high-fat diet. That means you can think you're following a so-called low-fat diet when you really aren't at all. For more than 30 years, conventional medicine has told us to cut way back on fats for a healthy heart. Eat all the carbs you want, they've told us, eat all the pasta you want, but give up fats, especially saturated fats like those found in beef or butter or even guacamole.

In his lecture, Dr. Lustig provides persuasive evidence that this advice is all nonsense. You can eat a very low fat diet, but if you eat a lot of sugar — and Americans eat MASSIVE amounts of it — you'll still get fat. You'll still have an unhealthy heart and unhealthy arteries, you'll have hypertension, and very likely you'll get diabetes or cancer.

You can eat and eat and still feel hungry

Fructose has another oddity: You can eat a huge amount of calories and still feel hungry. Dr. Lustig says a kid can drink a Coke containing 200 calories and still go into McDonald's raving hungry and eat a heaping plate of food. The reason is that fructose does not suppress ghrelin, the "hunger hormone."

When you're hungry, your stomach and pancreas secrete ghrelin, and this hormone signals your brain that you need to eat. You feel hungry. Once you've eaten, ghrelin production falls off and you don't feel hungry anymore. Unless you've eaten fructose.

Ghrelin levels don't go down after consuming fructose, according to Dr. Lustig. You still feel hungry even though you've taken on board a huge dose of calories.

It gets worse. Most food stimulates the body to produce leptin, a chemical that signals the brain you've had something to eat. According to Dr. Lustig, this response fails to occur if the food is high in fructose. Your brain never gets the message you're full.

Fructose literally changes the way your brain perceives what you've eaten. You don't know whether you're hungry or not, you don't know whether you've eaten or not. Sometimes a new-agey alternative doctor will tell a sick person, "You're out of touch with your body." I"ll say!

Now you know why you're sick. . .

Fructose is a likely answer if not THE answer. There are other factors involved — certainly toxic chemicals and heavy metals, in the case of cancer. But fructose looks more and more like a major explanation for our problems. I'm convinced we'd see a rapid increase in health and well-being in our society if every gram of sugar disappeared tomorrow, for good.

Instead, we eat five times the amount of fructose people ate a hundred years ago. And most of their fructose calories were from fruit. Most of ours are from the pure junk, like mainlining heroin.

Here's a thought form the New York Times article: "One of the diseases that increases in incidence with obesity, diabetes and metabolic syndrome is cancer. . .The connection between obesity, diabetes and cancer was first reported in 2004 in large population studies by researchers from the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer. It is not controversial." (We wrote about the diabetes-cancer connection in issue #35.)

The Times also quotes Craig Thompson, President of the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York. While the article does the usual song and dance that we need more studies (and it's true; we do), Dr. Thompson dropped this bombshell:

"I have eliminated refined sugar from my diet and eat as little as I possibly can, because I believe that ultimately it's something I can do to decrease my risk of cancer."

This comes from the very heart of America's cancer establishment. If the world's leading enemies of alternative medicine are saying this. . .well, you do the math.
 
eatshitndie said:
everytime i walk by confectionery, bakery and cake shops in mall basements i get nauseous and can smell poison in the air. my body and nose have adapted to a sugarless lifestyle and it's such a heavenly and happy feeling.
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Me too! :)

The above-mentioned Dr Robert Lustig (Professor of Pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco) also "passionately believes sugar is a poison. He actually uses the word "poison" 13 times in his lecture." :eek:

Anyway, here's another article urging people to abstain from sugar:
Top 9 Reasons to Avoid Sugar as if Your Life Depended on it
authoritynutrition.com/9-reasons-to-avoid-sugar
 
kkbutterfly said:
very hard to go less sugar in sg diet.
of cos you can ask for kopi without sugar. drink sugarless oblong tea.
but when you ask for brown rice,none of the stall have them.
you cannot ask for less sweet mee siam,less sweet mee rebus.
all cerals / beverages sold in supermarket have sugar added in.

you can ask for less salty in fish ball noodle but those soup base food already cooked you cannot ask for less salt.

if you look for multigrain bread, most stall don't have.you need to drive to source for it.
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Try to avoid fishballs. Even the uncooked ones you get from the supermarket have msg.

Other than brown rice you can consider the healthier sweet potato.
 
That is why you need to have your own mind. Don't blindly follow the majority of the secular crowds.
 
frenchbriefs said:
doing high intensity exercise,u burn glycogen in ur muscles quickly,once u have depleted ur glycogen stores ur muscles has the ability to carry,running on empty is the worst feeling ever,ur muscles feel weak like u are unable to stand let alone walk,ur entire body breaks out in cold sweats and u feel the weirdest hunger pangs.iv felt this a couple times before during NS and cycling.normally ur body reaches this point after 45 mins to an hour of exercise,but eating gels or a handful of gummy bears during ur workout which are a instant source of simple carbohydrates that can be digested easily and converted into glycogen and help elevate ur blood sugar.it helps to delay the outcome for sometime.
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Actually, when your body reaches that point of exhaustion, your body is signalling you to simply stop your exercise. ;)
Shortly after that, you should drink plenty (at least half a, or even one full, litre) of water, take a bath, and then consume one of your main full meals (of course, containing either negligible or zero added artificial sugar) of the day, in order to regain your strength. :)
 
johnny333 said:
Try to avoid fishballs. Even the uncooked ones you get from the supermarket have msg.

Other than brown rice you can consider the healthier sweet potato.
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isn't sweet potato lot of sugar?
I was told brown rice still not the best.
the one with lowest GI is Japanese rice(aka sushi rice)
 
kkbutterfly said:
isn't sweet potato lot of sugar?
I was told brown rice still not the best.
the one with lowest GI is Japanese rice(aka sushi rice)
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If you feel a need to eat rice then red rice, brown rice is preferable. When I go out to eat, the white rice makes me feel drowsy.
At home I consume brown rice & it doesn't make me drowsy. However nowadays I rarely include rice when I eat at home. I just increase the amount & variety of veggies.

I do take supplements like nopal & a glucose optimizer http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Glucose-Optimizer-120-Easy-Solv-Tablets/197
There is plenty of other products out in the market because type 2 diabetes is such a common problem

The "sweet" is more of a name thing than a reality. If you want to read about why they are good for you:
http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/do-sweet-potatoes-contain-sugar.html
https://www.sharecare.com/health/diabetes/can-eat-sweet-potatoes-diabetes
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?dbid=64&tname=foodspice

For breakfast you can look into oats(http://www.iherb.com/search?kw=oats) & add cinnamon which is beneficial if you are diabetic. Other things you can add are fruits like raisins.
 
bodycells said:
Processed sugar is bad.

Natural sugar from fruits and vegetables is good for your body.
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Actually, even the natural sugar in fruits and vegetables, i.e. fructose, is unhealthy. ;)

But fruits and vegetables are still healthy because they contain Vitamin C, dietary fibre and the polyphenol phytonutrients that are bound/stuck to the fibre:

nutritionfacts.org/video/if-fructose-is-bad-what-about-fruit

[video=youtube;sHEJE6I-Yl4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEJE6I-Yl4[/video]
 
gongkia said:
I drink food juice containing beetroot which is very sweet.
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But it's much healthier to eat the fruit than to drink its juice. ;)

In fact, the juice might not even be healthy enough because both the fruit's dietary fibre and the important polyphenol phytonutrients bound/stuck to the fibre have been removed:

nutritionfacts.org/video/juicing-removes-more-than-just-fiber

[video=youtube;U6tyu1Df1d4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6tyu1Df1d4[/video]


nutritionfacts.org/video/apple-juice-may-be-worse-than-sugar-water

[video=youtube;D4eynlnjzO0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4eynlnjzO0[/video]


http://nutritionfacts.org/video/best-fruit-juice

[video=youtube;IqM1Fmnxc3I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqM1Fmnxc3I[/video]
 
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