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Aegean Paradise -- Cruise / Casino Ship @ New Century Tours Corporation Pte Ltd

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1. HP 8088 5596 ( 小 妹 )

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2. HP 8113 8367 ( 小 弟 )


 
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AP now is no longer the same AP pre covid now under new management very money minded trying to scrimp and cut cost while charging higher prices.

Fake ferry rebate with lucky chip, rolling was 1% now 0.6% is 40% less, extension fee last time can roll to waive now is must pay $30 even with rolling, food is those cheap cai png and taste cannot make it, cabin also never maintain water is brown low water pressure hot water on and off dont have.

Dont know if the casino got any hanky panky to scam punters but can definitely feel now is like harder to win, so all in all the high ferry cabin prices dont justify the money time effort spent to make the trip up to gamble.

Was excited for AP to be back after few years of waiting, but turn out disappointment as for my 2 trips up were unenjoyable with the lousy food and cabin condition, so probably unlikely to go again till there are improvements or lower prices to reflect that, as of now definitely not worth going.

I take my gambling dollars elsewhere which is more appreciated with free cruise or hotel stays GD RC or up mountain Genting for a more enjoyable cruise and casino experience.
I did notice the slightly brown water when brushed teeth, first I thought because of the yellow basin, now think is water issue, vomit sia , now also no more keen on the cruise , unless very attractive free cabin and real rebate , and feel very very frustrated when see the dealers handle the game , super low standard , slow, don't know how to count , keep on delay game even already no ppl bet , one more thing is when u hit few chips in single bet , they keep demanding yam cha yam cha , but u keep winning they will try their best slow wheel fast wheel , soft spin hard spin want to eat you , WTF give them yam cha ,last time still got Maggie to eat free , now biscuit also don't want give. Go send ppl to real casino see how ppl dealers handle the game , AP dealers just like small kids no standard at all.
 
Once upon a time I remember happened in aegean paradise before covid ,one baccarat table a punter bet player draw 7 points, insurance closed 1 pay 4 , 3rd card for sitting player on banker bet , card already draw and sitting player hold the card started to squeeze but definitely he saw nothing coz within a second , the Punter who bet on player sound his insurance bet still on table which forgotten to place by dealer, not too sure he put last second after draw card or dealer overlook it , then the game stop and check with cctv , after checking they refuse to accept the insurance bet and guess what , 3rd card for banker make it total 8 points won over player. Seem from cctv they know the value of the card without flipping up .scary sia.


how to regulate or bar all from going
AP ?


**Gambling Regulatory Authority (GRA)** of Singapore does **not regulate gambling activities on cruise ships like the MV Aegean Paradise** when they are parked **outside Singapore's territorial waters**.


Here’s why and how this works:

### 1. **Jurisdictional Limits**
- The GRA's regulatory authority applies only to gambling activities conducted **within Singapore's territorial waters** (up to 12 nautical miles from the coast) or on land within Singapore.
- If a cruise ship like the MV Aegean Paradise is parked **outside Singapore's territorial waters**, it operates in international waters, where Singapore's gambling laws and regulations do not apply.

### 2. **Gambling on Cruise Ships**
- Cruise ships like the MV Aegean Paradise often operate as "floating casinos" when they are in international waters. These ships are typically registered under the laws of another country (e.g., Panama, the Bahamas, or Malta) and are subject to the regulations of their flag state.
- While the ship is in international waters, it can offer gambling activities without being subject to Singapore's gambling laws or oversight by the GRA.

### 3. **Singapore's Stance on Offshore Gambling**
- Singapore has strict laws to prevent its residents from engaging in unregulated gambling, including offshore or online gambling. The **Remote Gambling Act** prohibits Singaporeans from participating in remote gambling activities, even if the operator is based outside Singapore.
- However, enforcing these laws on cruise ships in international waters is challenging, as they fall outside Singapore's jurisdiction.

### 4. **GRA's Role**
- The GRA focuses on regulating gambling activities within Singapore, including land-based casinos, lotteries, and online gambling platforms that target Singapore residents.
- It does not have the authority to regulate or monitor gambling activities on cruise ships operating in international waters, even if they are near Singapore.

### 5. **Public Awareness**
- The Singapore government and the GRA often remind the public about the risks of participating in unregulated gambling activities, including those offered on cruise ships or offshore platforms.
- Residents are encouraged to use only licensed and regulated gambling services within Singapore to ensure fairness and access to safeguards.

### Conclusion


The GRA does **not regulate gambling on cruise ships like the MV Aegean Paradise** when they are outside Singapore's territorial waters. Such activities fall under the jurisdiction of the ship's flag state or international maritime law. Singapore residents are advised to avoid participating in such gambling activities due to the lack of regulatory oversight and potential risks.
 
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Just100king and Ahboy boy,
You both cow bei cow bu bad mouth about AP and yet you continue to contribute money to AP to make fatso more prosperous.
Are your brain OK??
If you go AP take it or leave it.
Fatso did not use the gun pointing against your head to force you into AP.
Less you one or two players AP will remain financial strong as their main biz is not gaming.
No need to tell other people how and where is the best gambling house. Punters jolly well know where to go for gaming.

Seems like ignoring u dont work, still want to quote my post, today got some free time entertain u.

My money i happy to spend anywhere i wish why u bother, who are u to tell me where i go gamble.
Talk good things u say promoting AP, talk bad u say kpkb bad mouth AP, hard to please.
Here is forum where readers with same interest gather discuss value add share info.
LIkewise nobody put gun to yr head force u read what i post, who r u to tell me what i can say or not?

why r u defending AP u working for them?
Tell ur boss want hear the good also be gracious enough to accept the bad, learn and improve on it.
Casino biz here now no longer monopoly like last time b4 IRs, many other better options to go gamble.
I reckon u more likely lose so much money to AP until few missing screws, better go take yr medication. Peace out ;)
 
I did notice the slightly brown water when brushed teeth, first I thought because of the yellow basin, now think is water issue, vomit sia , now also no more keen on the cruise , unless very attractive free cabin and real rebate , and feel very very frustrated when see the dealers handle the game , super low standard , slow, don't know how to count , keep on delay game even already no ppl bet , one more thing is when u hit few chips in single bet , they keep demanding yam cha yam cha , but u keep winning they will try their best slow wheel fast wheel , soft spin hard spin want to eat you , WTF give them yam cha ,last time still got Maggie to eat free , now biscuit also don't want give. Go send ppl to real casino see how ppl dealers handle the game , AP dealers just like small kids no standard at all.

The brown water is likely due to water storage tank rust never maintain and clean regularly, when i was there 2nd trip took the most expensive balcony cabin same thing water brown, hot water on and off, toilet flush sometimes work sometimes no work, aircon switch best try to off it the whole thing just came off.

Since last time also I mostly dont eat the buffet prefer pay order ala carte, now is pay also dont have only after 1am supper close then can order, for coffee must stand at the casino bar there drink for free if bring to restaurant charge $2, i ask the waitress bring to me since i already eating ala carte at the resturant.

Thus my update with my earlier post the AP of now is scrimp cut cost never maintain still want charge more very money minded, dont justify the money time effort to go onboard gamble till things improve more attractive promos prices as u mention, or can just go once in a blue moon for nostalgia sake.

U also mention just back from Genting? Much much more better there food options plenty and affordable and casino more fun, only bummer is travel time take many hours no toilet on the coach, so if i do go will stay there longer few days relax chill enjoy to make it more worthwhile the travel up.
 
AP now is no longer the same AP pre covid now under new management very money minded trying to scrimp and cut cost while charging higher prices.

Fake ferry rebate with lucky chip, rolling was 1% now 0.6% is 40% less, extension fee last time can roll to waive now is must pay $30 even with rolling, food is those cheap cai png and taste cannot make it, cabin also never maintain water is brown low water pressure hot water on and off dont have.

Dont know if the casino got any hanky panky to scam punters but can definitely feel now is like harder to win, so all in all the high ferry cabin prices dont justify the money time effort spent to make the trip up to gamble.

Was excited for AP to be back after few years of waiting, but turn out disappointment as for my 2 trips up were unenjoyable with the lousy food and cabin condition, so probably unlikely to go again till there are improvements or lower prices to reflect that, as of now definitely not worth going.

I take my gambling dollars elsewhere which is more appreciated with free cruise or hotel stays GD RC or up mountain Genting for a more enjoyable cruise and casino experience.

To add on, there are also 2 different set of prices for both MY and SG punters for the same services, look at their cabin price or promos which is price discrimination with the obvious SG punters paying higher.

Dont need come tell me AP is running a biz not charity i also know, similarly we as consumers also have a choice on where to take our gambling dollars.

Also as shared with some posts by bros here in regards to unregulated casinos, if still want go AP gamble do with eyes open big big, regulated casino already house advantage but at least still some fighting chance, not regulated and if got any hanky panky is no longer fair game the chance of any winning u go think about it, money hard to earn, good luck heng heng to all punters. Chiong ah! :D
 
I truly believe AP is a pirate ship, 100% control the outcome, they will let u win when u go 1st 2nd 3rd time , after that u go again the camera will zoom u once on board , whatever u bet they also want to eat u. I want to report to CRA request an inspection once the ship return to harbourfront.


FLOATING CASINOS .

ANOTHER FORM OF A SCAM.

THAT THE AUTHORITY CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT.



To be scammed means to be deceived or tricked, usually for financial gain. A scam involves a fraudster (scammer) who uses dishonest tactics to cheat someone out of money, personal information, or valuables.


What Are Scams?


Scams come in many forms, but they all have the goal of tricking victims into giving away money or sensitive data. Some common scams include:


  1. Phishing Scams – Fraudulent emails, messages, or websites pretending to be from banks, government agencies, or companies to steal personal details like passwords and credit card numbers.
  2. Investment Scams – Fake investment opportunities promising high returns but eventually disappearing with the victims' money.
  3. Love Scams – Scammers build online romantic relationships to manipulate victims into sending them money.
  4. E-commerce Scams – Fake online sellers take payment but never deliver goods.
  5. Impersonation Scams – Scammers pretend to be authorities (e.g., police, bank officers, or government officials) to trick victims into transferring money.
  6. Tech Support Scams – Fraudsters claim that the victim’s computer or phone has a virus and demand payment for fake fixes.
  7. Unregulated Floating Casinos - Unethical manipulations of Gaming Devices on Jackpot Machines , Card Shufflers , Monitor Screens , Roulette Wheels, Cards, to trick punters.

Why Is Singapore So Affected?


Singapore is heavily affected by scams per capita (per person) and in monetary value (total amount lost). This means:


  • Each Singaporean is more likely to be scammed compared to people in many other countries.
  • The total amount of money lost to scams in Singapore is very high.

Factors contributing to this include high digital adoption, financial wealth, and scammers using sophisticated online tactics.

The Singapore Police Force (SPF) and Cyber Security Agency (CSA) constantly warn the public, but scammers keep finding new ways to trick people.
 
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The brown water is likely due to water storage tank rust never maintain and clean regularly, when i was there 2nd trip took the most expensive balcony cabin same thing water brown, hot water on and off, toilet flush sometimes work sometimes no work, aircon switch best try to off it the whole thing just came off.

Since last time also I mostly dont eat the buffet prefer pay order ala carte, now is pay also dont have only after 1am supper close then can order, for coffee must stand at the casino bar there drink for free if bring to restaurant charge $2, i ask the waitress bring to me since i already eating ala carte at the resturant.

Thus my update with my earlier post the AP of now is scrimp cut cost never maintain still want charge more very money minded, dont justify the money time effort to go onboard gamble till things improve more attractive promos prices as u mention, or can just go once in a blue moon for nostalgia sake.

U also mention just back from Genting? Much much more better there food options plenty and affordable and casino more fun, only bummer is travel time take many hours no toilet on the coach, so if i do go will stay there longer few days relax chill enjoy to make it more worthwhile the travel up.
Is much more relax in genting , not to mention the casino so so big many choice , the professional dealers they are having ,the entertainment environment totally KO AP ,let's talk about freebies I believe nowadays every sg player will get free NN chips every month plus many free room ,earn GP to redeem, for those high roller u whack big big also no body want to disturb u , in AP already less punter still try to earn players from room charge ,extension fee scare ppl eat more is crazy , entertainment is a joke I see nothing except is just look like a gambling cage , nevertheless still can see those ah ma ah pa who just want to bet 20 30 per hand visit regularly today go today back , long ferry timing go and back see also sian, now they are trying to promote in Natas Travel Fair 2025 in expo to attract newcomers also.
 
This will work only in starting, after patrolling few times with winning, most likely they will aim u regardless day or night time , the Punters not a lot and they have the Punters list, so possible each punter got own score card in their hand , they can know exactly the Punters whether win or lose in the past in almost accurate amount.


Brothers play small small win a bit stop . Greed No good .

https://www.tiktok.com/@thegodfather.ll/photo/7475182430106717483
 
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Is much more relax in genting , not to mention the casino so so big many choice , the professional dealers they are having ,the entertainment environment totally KO AP ,let's talk about freebies I believe nowadays every sg player will get free NN chips every month plus many free room ,earn GP to redeem, for those high roller u whack big big also no body want to disturb u , in AP already less punter still try to earn players from room charge ,extension fee scare ppl eat more is crazy , entertainment is a joke I see nothing except is just look like a gambling cage , nevertheless still can see those ah ma ah pa who just want to bet 20 30 per hand visit regularly today go today back , long ferry timing go and back see also sian, now they are trying to promote in Natas Travel Fair 2025 in expo to attract newcomers also.


RWG is best .

Many old timers at Aegean Paradise Cruise ship now having a good time at Genting Highland every month with free hotel stay.
 
RWG is best .

Many old timers at Aegean Paradise Cruise ship now having a good time at Genting Highland every month with free hotel stay.
Go Genting Casino get for free rooms or to win money ??
For AP casino ship and spent 5 hours ferry (round trip) plus ferry ticket and cabin cost to relax for one night 95% punters likey crawl back Singapore worth the going??
Can Ahboy boy and his gang share with us how much you win since you started gambling??
I would like to learn your secret formula of winning.
 
Is much more relax in genting , not to mention the casino so so big many choice , the professional dealers they are having ,the entertainment environment totally KO AP ,let's talk about freebies I believe nowadays every sg player will get free NN chips every month plus many free room ,earn GP to redeem, for those high roller u whack big big also no body want to disturb u , in AP already less punter still try to earn players from room charge ,extension fee scare ppl eat more is crazy , entertainment is a joke I see nothing except is just look like a gambling cage , nevertheless still can see those ah ma ah pa who just want to bet 20 30 per hand visit regularly today go today back , long ferry timing go and back see also sian, now they are trying to promote in Natas Travel Fair 2025 in expo to attract newcomers also.

Genting is the big dog been around many years know how to run casino biz well. For punters offer free hotel stays, transport vouchers few hundred bucks, NN chips and points to redeem more freebies etc, for Genting cruise those gamble there regularly mostly free cruise only pay port tax, all is to entice to go more often, cos with house advantage long run sure makan you, all casino biz same no scare you win only scare you no come, as they say 10 gamble 9 lose, those odd trips when you win the casinos still never lose, have the other 9 to cover those losses and still remain very profitable. Its a mindset thing, offer you freebies to entice to go more often so when punters lose also dun feel so bad and continue to go again.

for AP is everything charge upfront no rebate or freebies lose is get nothing double whammy only pocket burn one even bigger hole as already paid for the services on top. That said its a paradise for old folks retiress as they think cheap only pay 48 bucks less than 150 IR levy got free makan travel few hours round trip ferry is eat wind to past their time got something to do somewhere to go so become regular. The sad thing is every trip lose few hundred may not seem much, by month is few thousand long run their CPF life funds all go to enrich the casino pockets, can afford ok but no self control means some jump or passport unclaimed which is tragic.

i always take walking into any casino as going into the lions den, having self awareness, financial discipline, gambling sensibly is key, can enjoy but never let it take over your life, affect your family or lifestyle.
 
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Brothers play small small win a bit stop . Greed No good .

https://www.tiktok.com/@thegodfather.ll/photo/7475182430106717483


Genting is the big dog been around many years know how to run casino biz well. For punters offer free hotel stays, transport vouchers few hundred bucks, NN chips and points to redeem more freebies etc, for Genting cruise those gamble there regularly mostly free cruise only pay port tax, all is to entice to go more often, cos with house advantage long run sure makan you, all casino biz same no scare you win only scare you no come, as they say 10 gamble 9 lose, those odd trips when you win the casinos still never lose, have the other 9 to cover those losses and still remain very profitable. Its a mindset thing, offer you freebies to entice to go more often so when punters lose also dun feel so bad and continue to go again.

for AP is everything charge upfront no rebate or freebies lose is get nothing double whammy only pocket burn one even bigger hole as already paid for the services on top. That said its a paradise for old folks retiress as they think cheap only pay 48 bucks less than 150 IR levy got free makan travel few hours round trip ferry is eat wind to past their time got something to do somewhere to go so become regular. The sad thing is every trip lose few hundred may not seem much, by month is few thousand long run their CPF life funds all go to enrich the casino pockets, can afford ok but no self control means some jump or passport unclaimed which is tragic.

i always take walking into any casino as going into the lions den, having self awareness, financial discipline, gambling sensibly is key, can enjoy but never let it take over your life, affect your family or lifestyle.
Absolutely right , casino always scared ppl no come never scare ppl win , AP scare punters win scare punters eat more their cai peng if stay longer , what a joke, may be they are too confident no matter how also punters will go becoz they are the only one ship .
 
Huh? This type of pricing is promo deal?

2D1N at 108 twin sharing = 216 for 2 to go.
For seniors book online only need to pay 48×2=96 + balcony cabin weekday 110= total only 206?

Am I missing something here? LOL
They are trying to bait new punters and those use to visit luxury cruise, cai peng , lousy cabin ,brown water, super professional dealers some single bet $5 win in roulette also hard to count, this price is cheaper than luxury cruise.
 
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