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Ineptitude of SPF shown

winnipegjets

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Nur Asyiqin Mohamad Salleh
The Straits Times
Saturday, Mar 08, 2014

The number of police officers on the ground during the Little India riot was again an issue of contention at on Wednesday's Committee of Inquiry (COI) into the unrest.

This after panel member Tee Tua Ba asked Deputy Assistant Commissioner (DAC) David Scott Arul if he was aware there were already 190 officers on the ground before troops from the Special Operations Command (SOC) arrived.

When the deputy commander of the SOC replied that he did not know, Mr Tee said: "I'm telling you this was collected from investigations."

The issue over how many police officers were at the scene on Dec 8 took prominence after several of them said they did not move in on the rioters because they were outnumbered by an angry mob of hundreds of men.

One of the senior officers, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Lu Yeow Lim, was grilled on Tuesday by Mr Tee, who said records show that there were 130 men on the ground when a police patrol car was flipped over that night.

DAC Lu, however, corrected Mr Tee, who is a former police commissioner. He said that while records show there were 111 officers on the ground, only 47 were dealing directly with the rioters.

The number of officers at different points during the riot were collected by the investigation team appointed by the COI, he added.

The investigators had extrapolated the number of police officers on the ground from GPS data of police vehicles sent to the scene.

But the officers are not individually tracked, he added. Hence it was not an accurate reflection of the strength of the police during the violence.

Many of the 47 officers responding to the riot, for instance, were scattered over four different points along Race Course Road.

There were also others who were injured and were on the way to hospital, said DAC Lu.

Several other witnesses pressed by the COI to provide a number for the officers on the ground also could only offer estimates.

The chaos that night made it impossible to get an accurate headcount, they testified.

Yesterday, the committee heard from DAC Arul that smoke and flames from burning vehicles at the scene obscured his vision.

Jammed airwaves as the violence ravaged Little India also made communicating with other officers at the scene difficult, DAC Lu had said on Tuesday.

When Mr Tee put it to him that "there were a hundred over men" at his disposal, DAC Lu disagreed.

"Maybe on paper in the courtroom," said DAC Lu. "The reality is I did not know how many men there were that night because communication was bad."
 

winnipegjets

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"Maybe on paper in the courtroom," said DAC Lu. "The reality is I did not know how many men there were that night because communication was bad."
Does this DAC Lu even know how incompetent he is when he uttered this statement? How could he as the commander NOT know? Where is the accountability?
 

Semaj2357

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Does this DAC Lu even know how incompetent he is when he uttered this statement? How could he as the commander NOT know? Where is the accountability?

ex commissioner tua ba stated that he would have ascertained, in the first instance, the number of resources, incl poodles he had at his disposal to deal with the situation. it would be interesting if the present one is called to give his opinion on this and other comments from the coi panel.
surprised that he has not been called before the coi till now and as head of the spf, he must be held accountable (regardless if he's on leave) since the buck stops with him.
 

Seee3

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Maybe it will help the officers in counting man by issuing their monthly pay in fractional amount, randomly at different times of the month. They will not be entitled to back pay if there is shortage in the final sum. Hope it will inculcate the habit of keeping track of the number of man deployed.
 

Papsmearer

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This kind of answers really makes LuLu look like an idiotic asshole.

1) Why was only 47 police officers out of the 111 present dealing with the rioters? Did the rest run away? DId they stand around and drink beer and sing kumbaya?

2) Why were the officers scattered over 4 points? Shouldn't all automatically officers be converging on the epicenter of the riots instead of hang out in the 4 corners picking their noses?

3) How come people who were present that day at the riot had no problem calling their friends and relatives that a riot was going on, and also taking pics and vids and sending them to FB and youtube on their handphones? If bystanders have no problem communicating electronically, why do the police? Jammed airwaves is a sign of undisciplined use of their com gear.

4) Smoke and flames blocked his vision? Than the chicken shit should have gotten closer to see what happened? How come the flame and smoke did not block the vision of the rioters who accurately threw projectiles at the police?
 

laksaboy

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Your taxpayer money is used to feed buaykan and sialan mata such as DAC Lu. Song boh, Sinkies? :cool:
 

uglyloser

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diam lar papsmearer. let real men discuss matters of great significant. National issues...

u only fit to carry a super soaker. now go back to yr playground and fark yrself!:oIo::oIo::oIo:
 

makapaaa

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One word can describe the poodles when conspiring with the FAP Traitors to fix the Oppos: Despicable.

When it comes to doing real police work: Cowardly!
 

halsey02

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Your taxpayer money is used to feed buaykan and sialan mata such as DAC Lu. Song boh, Sinkies? :cool:

All these plus the major train breakdown, does not wake SINgaporeans UP!...then, what are they waiting for? a major disaster to happen? we have highly paid & very well trained ( this, we cannot dispute), but highly inefficient too, for they have it so good that they are complacent.
 
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