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Hi all

din see any thread on casino games. So tot of starting a thread on Dice or in chinese call "da xiao". Share with you some of my knowledge on how to win this game in casino if you following some betting rules that I gonna share

kodoba70 said:

Hi all

din see any thread on casino games. So tot of starting a thread on Dice or in chinese call "da xiao". Share with you some of my knowledge on how to win this game in casino if you following some betting rules that I gonna share

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Tai Sai has an house edge which is not advantageous to the normal player, but every kind of game that is advantageous to the regular who plays it often. So the 10 bet 9 lose, 1 win theory, the 1 win belongs to people like your category. :p

For me I travel to casinos often, so I choose those casinos which are relatively safe enough for me to be able to take out my winnings.

silverfox@ said:

Tai Sai has an house edge which is not advantageous to the normal player, but every kind of game that is advantageous to the regular who plays it often. So the 10 bet 9 lose, 1 win theory, the 1 win belongs to people like your category. :p

For me I travel to casinos often, so I choose those casinos which are relatively safe enough for me to be able to take out my winnings.

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Which casinos do you usually go to and what games do you play?

jw5 said:

Which casinos do you usually go to and what games do you play?

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Tai Sei, Roulette, Pontoon, Casino Wars, 3 Picture, Blackjack, all these I don't touch.

I only touch Baccarat. Those small gambling cruise to international waters, I don't like to go, because you win a bit, you can feel some people beo-ing you. If you are like winning couple of hundred occasionally, can go lah. If you are winning couple of thousands regularly, I think better be more careful.

I have gone to Las Vegas, US states smaller casinos, aplenty, Macau, Cambodia, Malaysia. Due to proximity, I choose Malaysia genting. Every week I am there. Online casinos I don't play because it is not fair to us.

Baccarat is the only game with the best odds for us and the lowest house edge.

Going to a casino depends on how much you want to make. Some people content with $300 daily, some with $3000 daily, some with $30000 daily, so it all depends on how you play.

People do not have a good impression of gamblers. Because out of 10, 9 lose. It's true. To be able to be the one who win, its more of a mental aspect of a person rather than how skillful he is. You need to be very very disciplined in order to win. I don't normally spend more than 4 hours in a session. Mostly 2-3 hrs at most, then I go shopping, sleeping, rest, eating. Then I go back to the tables.

Have loads of rest and don't torture yourself by persisting betting on tables. If you can win, 1 -2 hours is all you need in a day. I see people betting day night, 24 hours, these are people where casinos love most.

Maybe let me give a few cents worth on casinos.

The renos, fittings, lights sounds are all there to entice people to go in and stay. No clocks, because they want people not to notice the timing for sleeping and stay in there day and night.

I always wear my watch without fail to remind that once 2 hours up, I will get out of casino regardless of whether I am on a winning run or even on losing ground. Probably rest refresh and then an hour later go back or just go for sleep.

The jackpots, slots machines are the killers, programmed tuned to win. So these machines we can never win them. I ever seen them clearing the cash registers in machines. Got couple with few Ks, the most I saw was about 20K from 1 day takings.

Winning in a casino requires great discipline more than skills and luck. You can have skills, luck but luck don't stick with you everytime and even with skills, long run, the house edge will run you down. So one must be very discipline to stop. Start is easy, the stopping part is hardest.

Greed kills all gamblers. You don't need to be a high roller to win money from casino. One cannot be greedy and can then win long time regularly.
Use a small capital, use it to win the casino. Don't spend it. Bankroll it, compound it and slowly you can start playing part time or even full time in a casino.

Once the emotional aspect is solved, then one can slowly start learning card counting and betting systems. The most common mistakes which people make is double up, martingale or even those 1326 system or whatever. They will dry you up in long run. Even if you have capital, the table limit will prevent you from winning them. Casinos love people who play martingale, double ups, 1326. If these systems work, they would never be publicised.

Bro Silverfox, what you say is very true. Discipline is one of the most important factor in order to have a higher percentage chance of winning. But how many people able to stick to it. Gambling is like drug, very easy addicted. Had seen friends and strangers playing not stop for hours, no need to sleep also. Sometimes I also like that :o

I normally go Genting as a short holiday to recharge myself, so I take gambling as a leisure not as a income. Win of course happy, but when we gamble must be prepare to loss also. My method of control is I will only bring the amount of capital that I intend to gamble inclusive of my expenses in cash, leave all the credit cards at home. I know this method is not good but at least it limit my lossing. Will be going there this coming weekend, hope come back happy

Silverfox,
May I ask when you usually go to Genting, since you said that you go weekly? Do you go on Friday night and return on Sunday night? How do you go there? Are you working full time from Monday to Friday?
What else do you do when you go to Genting or Macau, besides gambling?
How often do you go to Cambodia to gamble?
I find that odds in blackjack are not too bad, they are almost even. Have experimented a few times by starting off with a principle sum and telling myself that I will leave when I'm back to the principle sum. Usually start off winning, then lose it back to the principle sum after about 2 to 3 hours. The key is probably to leave while ahead.

jw5 said:

Silverfox,
May I ask when you usually go to Genting, since you said that you go weekly? Do you go on Friday night and return on Sunday night? How do you go there? Are you working full time from Monday to Friday?
What else do you do when you go to Genting or Macau, besides gambling?
How often do you go to Cambodia to gamble?
I find that odds in blackjack are not too bad, they are almost even. Have experimented a few times by starting off with a principle sum and telling myself that I will leave when I'm back to the principle sum. Usually start off winning, then lose it back to the principle sum after about 2 to 3 hours. The key is probably to leave while ahead.

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I go on weekdays, sometimes weekends, but will be going for permanently weekdays because I have some activities to do on weekends in SG.

Friday nights are not very good because I find many coaches to Genting. By air I took before too, but the time saved is not much and very dangerous as you know also Malaysia muggers are quite rampant. Tell driver you going genting, halfway kenna robbed also high possibility. By coach is safer as there are more people, and also lower profile.

I only focus on Gambling when I go casinos. No hanky panky or engage in FLs because they are a distraction, when I come back from casinos, I can play all I want.

Cambodia was in the past, but I don't quite like the place due to long travelling hours there from Thailand and furthermore, not very safe to carry too much money. Got many eyes.

By going to a casino trip, example for a night, you have to ask yourself, how much you want to win, how much you bring, and how much is each of your bet.

If you bring $1000 and want to win $1000, then I can say its very unrealistic to do it consistently in the long run. You can win that amount if you are lucky. And you must be lucky consistently.

I can only say my winning margin is between 20% of how much I bring to casino on each night. That is to say if i want win $2000, I will bring $10K. If I want win $4000, I will bring $20K.

The greed mentality makes people think if they bring $2000-3000 per trip, they will win a couple of thousands. If that happens, casinos will close down.

I have been playing for some while already, that is why i have the capital. Initially I only started off with $1000, so you can imagine each trip I win only $200, but I never use too much of my own money to bet against casino, because that will be suicide. Now my capital comes from casinos, and I use it to win from them

jw5 said:

Silverfox,
May I ask when you usually go to Genting, since you said that you go weekly? Do you go on Friday night and return on Sunday night? How do you go there? Are you working full time from Monday to Friday?
What else do you do when you go to Genting or Macau, besides gambling?
How often do you go to Cambodia to gamble?
I find that odds in blackjack are not too bad, they are almost even. Have experimented a few times by starting off with a principle sum and telling myself that I will leave when I'm back to the principle sum. Usually start off winning, then lose it back to the principle sum after about 2 to 3 hours. The key is probably to leave while ahead.

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I see the pontoon tables shuffling every deck. This increase the house edge and lower the player's edge, that is why I don't play and you cannot count the cards. Blackjack if they shuffle every game, how to count? Even if they have 20 decks in 1 shoe, can also count, but the problem is if they shuffle each single deck each shoe, even you can count also no use. Furthermore, blackjack rules favour dealers than us. That is why I don't touch blackjack. Also that is why I don't stay in the comfort of home and play online casinos. All these are just crap gambling to me.

Silverfox
Hope you don't mind if I ask a few more questions.
How old are you and do you have a wife and children? Do you have a full time job? Mind telling us what is your approximate net worth?
You are my hero. hehehe Love your nick too.

Nice sharing from silverfox@. Thanks.

jw5 said:

Silverfox
Hope you don't mind if I ask a few more questions.
How old are you and do you have a wife and children? Do you have a full time job? Mind telling us what is your approximate net worth?
You are my hero. hehehe Love your nick too.

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Sorry was away. I am in mid thirties. Wife and children nil. I don't have any full time job. My approx net worth, never really count.

I can only say that when you go casinos regularly, you get to see regular faces. Not all regulars are winning regularly. You see today they win 30K, tomorrow 50K, next week, you can see them lose 80K easily in a night. The tables, chairs, croupier salaries are all courtesy from them. You see them good, but they could have lost millions already.

What is the purpose of winning money from casinos? More money to spend? In a way it is neither wrong nor correct. Imagine today you win 1000, so you feel happy, and tomorrow you win 2000, so you spend some money on gifts, food, the next week you lose 3000. How?

I am no hero, just putting my philosophies to real life issues. People in general have no good impressions of people who gamble in casinos. Occasion playing is ok to most, just like people buying weekly 4Ds. But when high stakes involved, people generally think you are an addict.

I have no heroes in casinos. The only idol I have is the casino owner...just joking.....Coming to the part of winning money from casinos, what is the next intention? Initial playing 'career' involves losing. Let's face it, you don't lose, you don't learn, and the cost of the school fees can be enormous. But how many of you would step into a casino to observe the behaviour of gamblers? What is so good of observing these people?

You get to see the greedness of human, disgusting characteristics of mankind, these are things which one should observe and not to follow. Look at how some people win. It is not easy to spot a regular winner.

The basic character of a winner,
Calmness. (If you are calm, you basically win half the war)
Gambling Ethics
- Look at how some gamblers (proud, egoistics) showing off their ugly traits when they win a bit of money or losing their temper when they lose or pushing the blame on other gamblers, croupiers for their losing streaks.

If you can be very calm, you can be a winner in a casino. Never let frustrations get to your head. Once you scold the first vulgar language even in your heart, better get out of the casino fast because that is the 1st indicator of going to lose. The day when you can be calm at all times, one will understand how to win regularly.

Never let your emotions rule you. Never let other gamblers' emotions rule you.

There you see, I haven't got into the part on how to gamble yet. Basically there is no secret trick. Just how you calm your nerves. Easier said than done. Have time, go bookshops, grab books on philosophies and read them. I spend loads of time reading, people say read book in chinese means lose. I dare to say, Don't read, sure lose. The part on reading is to cultivate patience and calmness especially for those who don't meditate. I do meditate at times and read. At the same time gain knowledge.

In no time, you can play in casinos regularly and win regularly.

You could only win if your luck is good at that time and you know when to stop.

ultrasong said:

You could only win if your luck is good at that time and you know when to stop.

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So when do you know luck is coming or when luck is absent? Depending on luck would be best on buying Toto.

The part on knowing when to stop is correct. But not on the luck part. Winning means lucky, Losing means unlucky? Then casinos must be very very lucky to keep winning.

Self-discipline can win, which contributes on the part of knowing when to stop:p

no matters what. Casino is alway the big winner:(

I always make money at casino hundered percent of the time as I sell my MLM products to the luckly winners.

Casino has the odds against you. So if you manage to win after a short while due to you are lucky, then you must stop fast. If you play long period, you will lose to the probability for any games you played.

Very True !! Greed kills all gamblers.
LUCK is very subjective. You Cannot control Luck.
But, you CAN control your discipline.
I go to LW or LJ very often.
Play with discipline and strategy and a time factor (2 hours) and
your chances of winning is better.
Do NOT be greedy, set a target to win/lose and STOP within the two hours.
Every trip, I win around $200 to $500.
I am jobless, so that covers my expenses for the month.
Trust me, you CAN win if you bet with discipline and strategy.

GOOD LUCK !!!

silverfox
Thanks for your comprehensive reply.
I would like to ask you another thing.
What do you think is the profile of people who go to casinos? Say at a casino in Macau or Genting at any one time, what is the % of people who are tourists, what is the % of people who are serious high stake gamblers, what is the % of people who are small time addicted gamblers, etc? And of the gamblers in the casinos, how many of them are rich and can afford to lose and how many of them are actually gambling on borrowed money?

jw5 said:

silverfox
Thanks for your comprehensive reply.
I would like to ask you another thing.
What do you think is the profile of people who go to casinos? Say at a casino in Macau or Genting at any one time, what is the % of people who are tourists, what is the % of people who are serious high stake gamblers, what is the % of people who are small time addicted gamblers, etc? And of the gamblers in the casinos, how many of them are rich and can afford to lose and how many of them are actually gambling on borrowed money?

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High stakers normally around 1-2%. addicts aplenty. But I would say most of the addicts would end up gambling on borrowed money. If you win consistently, do you consider that an addict?