Cheating Entreprenuerial Couple - Got to read

This case was mentioned in the press and I took a look at the judgement. The judgement reads like a storybook and this couple is absolutely despicable cheating an elderly lady. This couple is facing so many civil suits and frankly should be arrested to save society

http://www.singaporelawwatch.sg/rem...Management Worldwide (BMW) Pte Ltd and others %5B2010%5D%20SGHC%20180

>In 2001 during the Asian Recession, his ideas on how to revive the economy were accepted by the Government. He has always been inspired by his mentors, like his late uncle, the First Foreign Minister of Singapore, Mr S. Rajaratnam, and also by the “Founder of Modern Singapore” Minister Mentor Mr Lee Kuan Yew.

He learnt from the best.............

These knaves should be immured for life!!!

Found out that this family of 3 brothers who grew up in Serangoon Gardens have a reputation. The eldest brother worked for the Japanese bucket shop owner who was convicted and jailed for cheating Singaporeans and he holds the Singapore record for having the most charges and it went into the thousands. The Youngest brother took his his new bride's dowry while having a malay GF. The Subramniam family comprising of the following Thiruganam who is now known as Thomas Iskandar Shah, Thiruchelvam who is a remiser and the 3rd chap Thiruvasan. Good luck to whoever meets them.

Also told that not related to Rajaratnam but known to TT Durai.

scroobal said:

Thomas is also a trained Wealth Dynamics Master Practitioner who has learnt the way to create Wealth by going with the FLOW on the Least Path of Resistance. He has also attended the Entrepreneurs Business School in Bali.

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That's normal. Everybody tries on that line too. And what does Bali offer to entrepreneurs that the rest of Southeast Asia couldn't?

scroobal said:

His vision is to reduce poverty by creating many Successful Entrepreneurs who will help to increase income levels and standard of living in the respective countries.

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No puns, but taken only just its own this prose is beautiful. He really should aim to be a politician. Or perhaps he considered that path and felt he could make even more money using his brains and skills in private enterprise despite the fact that a ministerial appointment here already comes with an overly-impressive salary scale minsters in other countries could only dream of in their pillows.

Ah, nothing is ever enough. A typical man in the walk of life.

The thing that is striking about this case was how blatant they were.
Their website looks like that of a professional firm or a global mnc, with audio and all. They even had job advertisements for web page designers and clerical staff. No jobs for professional marketing or financial advisory staff, which is what they claimed to do. Of course, the couple would "handle" these themselves, operating out of an office in Suntec.
Took up the job to market the lady's book and promptly checked themselves into Burj Dubai, the most expensive hotel in the world. Don't think even the top lawyers, consultants and accountants would have the cheek to do that.
In other such cases, you would usually hear of the accused having done certain things unprofessionally or inadequately or in an untimely manner. In their case, it is doubtful if they actually did anything at all.
Perhaps they thought that "name dropping" would be enough to get by. Really no shame.

Agree. It is also reflects badly on the Police Force and ACRA. This has been on for years. I understand they have been preying on the Malays who are too embarrassed to act. Without the persistence of the Dutch lady who did all the research, this would not have risen to the top.

The judge clears state fraudulent on a number of occasions. One would expect the Police Force to come to standard where these should be quite easy to handle. In some countries, the AG would issue a fiat to an accountancy and law firm to act for the state for certain white collar crime.

I also understand that the entire website is false. BNP, BMW, etc. He is also not an accountant let alone a chartered accountant. There is no insurance company called GEL in Singapore. Apparently the wife is used to entice the aspiring malay entrepreneurs by claiming that she is a self made millionaire.

It about time the authorities work for their salary putting these slime behind bars then chase after NSP for selling their newsletter.

jw5 said:

The thing that is striking about this case was how blatant they were.
Their website looks like that of a professional firm or a global mnc, with audio and all. They even had job advertisements for web page designers and clerical staff. No jobs for professional marketing or financial advisory staff, which is what they claimed to do. Of course, the couple would "handle" these themselves, operating out of an office in Suntec.
Took up the job to market the lady's book and promptly checked themselves into Burj Dubai, the most expensive hotel in the world. Don't think even the top lawyers, consultants and accountants would have the cheek to do that.
In other such cases, you would usually hear of the accused having done certain things unprofessionally or inadequately or in an untimely manner. In their case, it is doubtful if they actually did anything at all.
Perhaps they thought that "name dropping" would be enough to get by. Really no shame.

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scroobal said:

Agree. It is also reflects badly on the Police Force and ACRA. This has been on for years. I understand they have been preying on the Malays who are too embarrassed to act. Without the persistence of the Dutch lady who did all the research, this would not have risen to the top.

The judge clears state fraudulent on a number of occasions. One would expect the Police Force to come to standard where these should be quite easy to handle. In some countries, the AG would issue a fiat to an accountancy and law firm to act for the state for certain white collar crime.

I also understand that the entire website is false. BNP, BMW, etc. He is also not an accountant let alone a chartered accountant. There is no insurance company called GEL in Singapore. Apparently the wife is used to entice the aspiring malay entrepreneurs by claiming that she is a self made millionaire.

It about time the authorities work for their salary putting these slime behind bars then chase after NSP for selling their newsletter.

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The problem with them is that they always work on the "How does it affect me" theory.
NSP selling newspapers could be a threat to them.
An "entrepreneurial" couple offering marketing and financial advisory services would not be able to scam them and their families in a million years. So what if they cheat and scam a number of naive ordinary Singaporeans. These Singaporeans would just have to work harder again for their money, all the better to keep them industrious and obedient.
As for the couple? Oh, they would go through "due process". As usual, an "after-the-event after-the-fact" approach to management. Not much different from the countless cctv cameras all around the island these days.
No problem if it's detective rather than preventive, since it doesn't affect them and their families.

Oh well, the only silver lining is that if they are really self made millionaires, those who used their services would be able to get their money back via civil suits. Hahaha.

Good point and well supported. I initially assumed incompetence but yours is more resonable.

jw5 said:

The problem with them is that they always work on the "How does it affect me" theory.
NSP selling newspapers could be a threat to them.

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Apparently the lady would not see a penny as they have no money and their HDB flat does not go far when you add up all the creditors. I understand that many others have written away their losses when they lawyers checked their background.

Oh well, the only silver lining is that if they are really self made millionaires, those who used their services would be able to get their money back via civil suits. Hahaha.

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Time to wake up, you poodles! You boast of such a crack white-collar crime- busting unit so hyped up and high profile and yet your eyes cannot see and your ears cannot hear. Don't just waste your time on illegal hawking of newsletter. You are paid so handsomely you need to do more.

the “Founder of Modern Singapore” Minister Mentor Mr Lee Kuan Yew.

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well, i totally disagree with the term above. He likes to call himself the founder. That is strange. I thought there is a team that do all the work. That is very selfish of him to claim all the credit. i don't like people who behave like that. Very lame and low.

scroobal said:

Good point and well supported. I initially assumed incompetence but yours is more resonable.


Apparently the lady would not see a penny as they have no money and their HDB flat does not go far when you add up all the creditors. I understand that many others have written away their losses when they lawyers checked their background.

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if the dutch lady or anyone who got cheated by this couple had done their own due diligence from the onset, none of them would be in their current predicaments.

what kind of idiots hands over their life savings to a "book promoter" with no track record??

a fool and his money are soon parted. there are more fools around than the police can possibly protect.

The article didn't say anything about cheating.

Agree but why do you think laws and the Police exist. Surely not to help the capable and the able bodied. When do the laws actually apply? When the Police confirm that all due diligence is done right. Society is a mixed bag. You got to look after everyone including the fools.

This couple have done in so many people that 13 cases are pending. So what cases should the Police apply themselves to. The amounts are not nickel and dime either.

bryanlim1972 said:

a fool and his money are soon parted. there are more fools around than the police can possibly protect.

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This guy is really something. Anybody can be a Business Consultant with Spring. You just have an ACRA name and go sign up to be on the list of Business Consultants with Spring. You dont have to have done anything.

Business Consultants like these are equivalent to Relief Teachers on standby list.

scroobal said:

He is also a qualified Business Consultant with Spring Singapore, a Government body which helps SMEs in Singapore.

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It is sad really. The Govt for political reasons like to say that they have provided $xm in funding to SMEs and the Malay component is much more politically important.They track these funding by race.

The end results is vultures within the community appears and screw these gullible aspiring businesspeople. I heard that many Malay traders including hawkers had been approached , had their "business cases" drawn and the commision grabbed. One the biggest culprits is the father of SPH correspodent Nur Dinah Suhaimi who is an accountant.

If Springs tracks the end result of funding by the advisors or accountants they are going to be in for a shock.

kingrant said:

This guy is really something. Anybody can be a Business Consultant with Spring. You just have an ACRA name and go sign up to be on the list of Business Consultants with Spring. You dont have to have done anything.

Business Consultants like these are equivalent to Relief Teachers on standby list.

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