hey axe168, what happened to you? Hope things are well.
Aiyah forget about trying to justify the migration lah. Often I see Singaporeans trying to justify to Singaporeans why they chose to migrate by saying how much money they have earned, how rich they have become.....
This is the Singapore way of life. Always want to become richer and richer and richer. If you want that then stay in Singapore lah.
Migration for me is not so much a journey to become rich, but more of a lifestyle change. Slower pace of life. More worklife balance. Lower total expenses.
I read people saying how earning 100k p.a is squat. Well yeah in Singapore is it squat. But not in other countries lah. Look more at what kind of lifestyle that 100k p.a buys you not the absolute amount. And also ask what you pay for in terms of effort and time to get that 100k p.a.
In any case, there is no point comparing. Do it because you want it. Answer to yourself, not others. If you cared so much about what other people said and thought about you, then don't move from your comfort zone. Stay there.
Migration is not for everyone. And there is no right or wrong. Cheers!
Hope things turn better for axe168
Oh dear ! I cannot read any message from Maddy !! Why ah ?
Is it I'm under his ignore list ? hmm..
Europe Needs You!
by David Stringer
Associated Press Writer Article Last Updated; Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:00AM
Photo by LEFTERIS PITARAKIS/AP
Mbulelo Ndabeni, a 25-year-old South African dancer, performs during a training session with London's Rambert Dance Company in west London on Thursday. Many nations in Europe are reporting a shortage in hundreds of occupations.
LONDON - Sheep shearers for Britain, judo teachers for Spain, goldsmiths for Holland. European nations are finding some surprising gaps in their job markets, and competing to woo the overseas workers with in-demand skills.
Nations across the continent list shortages in hundreds of occupations. Even as some countries tighten their already-strict immigration rules, many are relaxing visa restrictions to help industries import candidates for the jobs that domestic workers can't - or won't - take up.
Many Europeans refuse low-paid jobs, while failure in the past to plan properly for future labor needs has left some skilled professionals in short supply.
"Too often the cart has been put before the horse - in Britain, the government has looked at restricting immigration first, and only then at the need to train up domestic workers to do the jobs previously held by foreign workers," said Abigail Morris, employment policy adviser at the British Chamber of Commerce.
Britain has its own peculiar shortages - needing ballet dancers for the famed stage of Covent Garden's Royal Opera House and sheep shearers for the windswept slopes of Scottish farms. But the country's government will set a new permanent immigration quota next year, promising to dramatically cut levels of migration. Business leaders warn the cap will leave the country short in vital industries.
Vanessa Rossi, an analyst at London's Chatham House think tank said Europe is suffering from its failure to train enough young people in specialist sectors, including medicine and areas such as nuclear power plant construction.
While the United States was encouraging students a decade ago to handle major power plant projects, much of Europe was closing down specialist engineering centers and losing its expertise, said Rossi.
"We've tended to be perennially bad at planning for the future," she said.
Members of the European Union allow citizens of most other members states free movement to live and work in their countries. But their skills shortages mean most also loosen immigration rules in some specific sectors to be able attract talent from beyond Europe.
While almost all European nations need skilled medical workers and engineers - particularly for major infrastructure projects - the shortages aren't simply confined to hospitals, construction sites or dental clinics.
In Spain, the Asturias region is relaxing visa rules to hire judo and aerobics instructors, the Canary Islands needs forestry experts and the Melilla region, on the coast of north Africa, is seeking ship cooks, deck hands and waiters.
Sweden's government says it needs plumbers, chefs and crane operators. Neighboring Denmark seeks chiropractors, midwives and music teachers. While the Netherlands says unfilled jobs postings have declined in recent years, it still has shortages of carpenters, goldsmiths, pharmacists and truck drivers.
In Britain, some employers worry the looming immigration quota will make it almost impossible to compete for global talent.
Louise de Winter, director of Britain's National Campaign for the Arts, said British dance companies and orchestras will suffer if the new limits mean they can't snap up the best talent when performers become available - such as Cuban dynamo Carlos Acosta.
"If the Royal Ballet isn't able to recruit the next Carlos Acosta because there's an immigration cap, then that's it - they lose that talent for good. It's an international job market, and the talent will simply go to a country that doesn't have the same restrictions," said de Winter.
Mbulelo Ndabeni, a 25-year-old South African dancer with London's Rambert Dance Company said Britain must protect the diversity of its performers, arguing it has helped produce a vibrant arts scene.
"I bring something from South Africa that the others don't have, so do our dancers from Cuba or India," he said. "We all bring something different to the table, and that's why the audiences love it, because it's not just English dancers."
Ndabeni said standards would fall if visa regulations force out some foreign performers. "We would lose something really important," he said.
Of the Rambert company's 22 performers 10 are British, five from EU countries and 7 more from outside the continent - including dancers from South African, Cuba, Australia and Singapore.
"We can't just restrict ourselves to dancers from the EU if we want to remain a world-class dance company - we have to recruit from all over the world to get the standard that we need," said Nadia Stern, Rambert Dance Company chief executive.
Britain's farmers face the same problem each summer as they race to hire trained sheep shearers, looking to New Zealand and Australia for expertise. Farms typically have only a six-week window to cut their sheep, meaning about 300 people - almost all from outside the EU - are needed to help complete the task alongside about 3,000 Britons.
"Without them the job just wouldn't get done in time," said Colin MacGregor, a farmer from Scotland and shearing training manager for the British Wool Marketing Board.
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I cannot guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow, importantly, I enjoy my life to the fullest and be happy.
Thanks for ya concern, Doc ! Hopefully my problems will be resolved in the next few days.. I am a fighter
Oh ! & a quitter too
Well said. If you want to earn lots of money, Singapore is the place.
But if you want to live a lifestyle that you want and know that you won't regret, you may need to migrate to a place that is more friendly to alternative lifestyles.
Perhaps that is why it is a good thing that Australia is not efficient. That gives me time to smell the flowers.
I read about a new Canadian PR posting in Emigration who is going for interview with Whistler. That's cool.
Given the chance to migrate, it will be a missed opportunity if we do not make use of the second life to do things for ourselves.
Actually as a medical doctor it is very very hard to find a job. I sent out around 80 job applications to service and medical related organizations/companies. Got 3 rejection letters. Never got to an interview.
Walked in for a Mcdonald's crew interview. Got turned away. I was overqualified.
Moral of story is never tell them you are educated. It is easier to get a job if you are "uneducated".
I think no Singapore trained doctor in his right mind would migrate from Singapore to Canada. I went to the classes for foreign doctors trying for the medical licensing exams and 99% of them are Indian/Pakistani. 1% from Philipines and Middle East.
In the end I was lucky and got a job as a factory worker making vinyl window frames.
Well I guess for some of you it will be music to your ears that this crazy loser gave up being a doctor to be a factory worker in Canada.
Sometimes I also ask myself whether I am crazy as well and I think I am.
But it is from doing crazy things that makes one feel alive sometimes. Life is not all about getting rich and richer and richer. We all have to die one day.
My wife and I find that life here is a lot less stressful than in Singapore for some strange reason. Maybe we are naive, maybe reality has not kicked in. But well it is an experience and so far we are trying our best to get by.
For those who think migrating is easy, well sorry man, it is going to be a lot more disappointing at first when you start off. That's something everyone at sammyboy told me back in 2003 and I accepted it.
There will be a few super cool fantasy type stories that are true out there. Combination of planning, street smarts, hardwork and luck.
I never planned to migrate to make my bank account fatter. But I was looking to have a richer life experience. As my wife said, if we wanted to just work we might as well have stayed in Singapore. So coming here we want to do different things.
Not going to happen in 3 months. But we'll get there.
Fellow Singaporeans.......DON'T MIGRATE!!!! IT'S NOT FOR YOU!!!! TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!
I discussed about the ways to save cost and be nimble.. One kind soul taught me how to save on food - to obtain free chicken bones (2 huge bags !).. make it a chicken porridge.. It was enough for 1 week of food supply - total cost include rice <$3 ! I told my story to my mum and some of my relatives - they laughed Although sounds weird.. but this is the "determination" that some sinkies can't bear.. I hope some new migrants find this useful.
After 6mths when wifey and son arrived.. I started to have a decent family meal.. buy house and car.. and soon, happiness kicks in
Don't worry bro. Here is a similar story.
SATS HR Group Manager was so stressed that he and his wife packed up and left Singapore for OZ nearly 20 years ago. The wife was an interior decorator. They knew what they wanted in life.
Both joined a factory making goose down pillows. The ladies in the factory did the sewing while the guys did the stuffing. They retired about 5 years ago having worked in the same factory. Their only son graduated at about the same time. Shortly after getting the job, they bought VW Combo and travelled around OZ when they had holidays.
You could not come across a better picture than that. Imagine both of them going to work and coming back home at the same time.
But the pressence of Indian doctors really give a bad name to doctors. Unwashed coat, smoking in the clinic, make the nurses their personal maids.
In Australia, dentists are earning more then bulk-billed GPs!
To this friend of mine, he decided to do what makes doctors really great, he signed off with Fred Hollows Charity and went to impoverished countries to treat patients free. Perhaps that is his calling. But it is what HE HIMSELF FEELS GOOD ABOUT. (http://www.hollows.org.au/)
People who migrate and EXPECT A POT OF GOLD TREASURE AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW should wake up to reality and think again.
Migration can be a crazy experience and many times, it is the journey that is interesting. It is really what we want out of living.
Many Singaporeans are migrants or have ancestors who are migrants.
Migrants like me have to work in our adopted land. It is the difference between working in Singapore and say Australia, that makes me happier here and it has to do with how I have been treated here as compared to Singapore.
Leisure is a big thing here. I have all the time to do things that I can only dream about. Having 4 distinct seasons means doing different things, eating different food (seasonal), etc
I thought the novelity of living here will wear off as time goes by and I think about the past decade here. Perhaps it will, some people will move to a different city/town. Some will discover more things in life in the same place. A city is never the same, if it changes the way I like, I will stay. Eg Perth has a lot more asians these days! I eat more Japanese food in the past, now I eat more Korean. The selection of Malaysia/Singapore food changes as time go by, but there are enough selections such that I do not have to visit Singapore for food.
At the same time, there is wider selection of food prepared by different ethnic groups, and more and more angmos I work with are themselves migrants.
And the thought of returning to Singapore for a visit becomes *sian* unless we have craving for local food.
For Canadian migrants in BC, it must be fun to take the scenic drive to Victoria in Vancouver Island. So what the Canadian migrant I know is working in Costco instead of Bank Worms in Singapore.
Screw the CPF! Beat Ho Ching's returns by converting your SGD to ARS and earn 27.18% interest immediately
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Churchill's famous dictum, bitter after losing an election he should have won : "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." (from a House of Commons speech on Nov. 11, 1947)
He returned to power in 1951.
The modern (American) interpretation of democracy differs from the original which is founded on Liberalism (Protection of private property)
The shortcomings of democracy includes
- Increase in the price of justice and protection met by the drop in quality of both.
- Government debts are higher & increase ever faster
- Government is not interested in perserving & improving capital values.
- Governments' purpose include redistribution of the people's private properties. - Taking and giving away one's private properties is not shameful or immoral in a democracy, thanks to Robin Hood.
Do you still want to migrate to a democratic country?
Bruno. Freedom and the Law.
Friedrich. Law Legislation & Liberty.
Bertrand. Sovereignty: An inquiry into the Political Good. University of Chicago. pp172-173, 189
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Standup Economist Comedian.
For anyone who migrate to a 'real' democracy and finally has to vote, and cannot figure out the politics, Eg the left wing, right wing or ... chicken wing.
There is also a nice section on swing voters which you should not miss. Because all of us believe in magic.
Also suitable for people who got sick of voting.
If you laugh non-stop throughout the video, you are not alone.
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