Living in JB

[relaxmannn]

Hi aangsc, the indoor theme park is confirmed at Puteri Harbour. Targeted to open on Sept-2012. Beside the indoor theme park is Traders Hotel. That is what I know at this moment. Maybe some bros would like to share more.

[relaxmannn]

The 'imperia' at Puteri Habour is a highend condo, going to launch somewhere Nov-2011.
The soft launch selling not so good, only 30% plus units taken.

[jasonjst]

Since the security of HH is already quite good, this added security because of the presence of the royalty is still not good enough to justify the much higher price. Any Bro really enjoys staying next to the royalty unless you can have extra benefit besides security? Maybe the royalty and their family members can suggest HH relandscaping the surrounding of the Hills precinct such that everyone can get Golf Views and has a seperate clubhouse with infinity pool in the Hills precinct.

Actually , price there is not that high for the rich and well off . Imagine they can buy sentosa cove at s$30M , what is RM2M to these people .

[crystal_tiong]

Crystal
As buyer of ni, the payment i need to prepare was 1k for deposit, 10% downpmt of purchase price, 10k state levy and abt slightly more than 1k lawyers fee. Thats all.

Oh , thanks for sharing!

[crystal_tiong]

Hi crystal, I paid 10k for the levy and RM500 for lawyer fee.

icic , so NI lawyer fees more ex ....

[Narmi]

Oh , thanks for sharing!

Crystal
Of course d 1k dposit is actually part of the10k downpayment..not sure whether d lawyer fee is expensive cos i thkg in sg term so 1k+ a bit is not high considerg mine is semid n this law firm is 'endorsed' by bro wuqi ..its true so far i kept in d loop of all d development with my purchase

[crystal_tiong]

Crystal
Of course d 1k dposit is actually part of the10k downpayment..not sure whether d lawyer fee is expensive cos i thkg in sg term so 1k+ a bit is not high considerg mine is semid n this law firm is 'endorsed' by bro wuqi ..its true so far i kept in d loop of all d development with my purchase

How about mortgage insurance , did u buy any ? can share info ?
thanks

[Narmi]

How about mortgage insurance , did u buy any ? can share info ?
thanks

U can if u want but i didnt take up..

[Investor]

List of forummers who have purchased or intend to purchase property in Johor. Hope those guests who are following this thread actively will also create their own account and join 'The List'.
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1. Wuqi256 - Nusajaya, Wuqi256 sisters, sister bf. Wuqi256's relatives, friends and colleagues - Total 27 bought so far in Nusajaya
2. Investor - Nusajaya
3. Analytical Professor - Kempas
4. Sanur - Leisure farm/polo view
5. Sanur's mum - Leisure Farm/bayou water village
6. Sanur's SIL - Leisure Farm/polo view
7. Jasonjst - Sutera Utama
8. Tansi - Leisure Farm
9. relaxmannn - Nusajaya
10. nusajayaphile - The Hills Precinct, Horizon Hills
11. Mahesh - Leisure Farm/pinggiran bayou
12. East539 - Nusajaya
13. East539's Sis - EL/LF
14. JazJoz - Horizon Hills
15. Lynn - east Ledang
16. TheGolf - HH
17. Grago. - Horizon Hills
18. Arsenal - Horizon Hills
19. Vincentck & Wife - NI
20. mathstub- Horizon Hills
21. ShawnLow - Bestari Heights
22. Skippy - Horizon Hill The Golf
23. LastResort Family - Horizon Hills, The Gateway, The Hills & Fairway Suites
24. Kaeel - Nusa Idaman , Hill side Semi D
25. Lord Aragorn - The Straits View Residences, Permas Jaya
26. cathylmg - Kempas
27. captw - Bukit Indah, Amelia 1
28. mallow - Nusajaya
29. IskandarRocks - East Ledang, Imperia@Puteri Harbour
30. euphony - LF & mt. austin
31. narmi - NI
32. maxpark - Fairway Suites, Indahwalk3
33. Avalon74- Setia Eco Garden
34. Yonglip - Bestari Heights
35. AbuGumGum - Sungai Chat, Johor Bahru
36. 2bFree - HH
37. Aisanbo - Sky Gardens Residences @ Setia Tropika
38. 29ers - LF
39. Weetabix - HH
40.

Placing 29ers back into the list no. 38 as Weetabix has copied the 2nd last list instead of last.

[horizonhills]

Mine are facing the Gateway and there are no obstruction at all. Therefore I am somewhat shocked ( or pleased? ) that someone has snapped up the "no-view" semis for RM 1.68M when I got mine at RM 1.2M. One of my friends got his along my row for RM 1.4M ( same timing ) but the house is much bigger than mine.

I offered RM 1.5M to buy his house and he is not selling even at RM 3M.

If you have been to developments around Malaysia with special concepts or themes, you know that RM 3M houses are very very common.

Check out Jades Hills by Gamuda one day if you are free. You should be amazed

Thank you so much for sharing the above info. I'm waiting for a unit with golf course view in the next launch of The Hills.

Any comment on the built quality of the last launch in The Hills compared to East ledang's last launch?

By the way, are your semi-ds in The Golf facing Gateway enjoying unblocked views of the golf course or being blocked by the dense plantation just like the show unit?

[Investor]

Hi Bro Investor, do you mean houses with golf course view will be launched in the near future in the Hills precinct in Horizon Hills? Are they terrace, cluster or semi-D? Generally the terrace house does not get the Golf course view, right?

Yes you are right, only bungalows in the next launch of The Hills enjoy golf course view.

An intermediate lot (terrace house) with no Golf course view in the Hills precinct in the current launch already costs 800K+ in Horizon Hills. Would you mind sharing your guess for the price of a unit with Golf course view in the next launch in Horizon Hills?

You can definitely judge the value of a house by its ultimate selling price if you are buying it for your own stay as you are the one paying.

BUT, when it comes to an investment point of view, you'll have to judge the value in terms of PSF.
In terms of PSF, the price of a terrace in The Hills doesn't really have such a big gap like the way you see it, as you are comparing ultimate selling price. The terraces in The Hills are much bigger than those in earlier precinct. I didn't do any research in the pricing or size of terraces in The Hills versus older precincts, those are just my views based on my own logic.

Below is HH's statement which further endorses the simple logic of judging value by PSF. HH stated that he got his semi-d for RM 1.2 mil while his friend got his semi-d from the same row at the same time at RM 1.4 mil. So can you say that price increased by RM 200k when both semi-dees were being marketed at the same time?

One of my friends got his along my row for RM 1.4M ( same timing ) but the house is much bigger than mine.

Again for investment point of view, it'll be the best to put in more effort and try to find the best deals in Nusajaya, deals with pricing of 1 year plus ago like what Wuqi had found and secured. For me, I'm not getting a unit in The Hills purely for investment. I'm getting something which I really like and I get to enjoy it for free as I forsee that I'll definitely be able to sell it with profit in future(although the profit, in terms of percentage, will be lower than investing in better deals like what Wuqi
found, but I don't mind). The judgement of a future higher selling price is of course based on many factors.

So my guess, just a wild guess, for the PSF price of the next launch will be between 5-15% higher than present launch. Whereby the ultimate selling price of each unit, whether terrace or bungalow, depends on the size they intend to offer and build.

I still don't understand given the fact that most houses in the Hills precinct (for the past few launches and the current launch) don't have Golf course view, what make them so expensive? Is there anything special about the Hills precinct?

Many have answered your question as shown below in quotes. Additional reason is the one I stated above(compare in PSF).

Another reason I can add is that The Hills precinct is right in the middle of the entire Horizon Hills territory, completely surrounded by the other 12 precincts and gof course. Thus being the most secured location within Horizon Hills itself.

Imagine a robber with parang entering HH's territory from the outer perimeter fencing, do you think he will walk or run all the way trying to reach The Hills by passing thru so many other properties, roads, golf course and finally climbing up the slope to The Hills? Even if the robber drives into HH, there is no road(except if he is able to gain entrance into The Hills Precinct itself) which can let him gain access near to your house for a fast escape.

The Hills is expensive as its about one of the highest point in HH. Its also slightly more exclusive and the heads of the state have some property there as well.

Those in the hill with golf view are bungalow.. and expected to be snapped up during the Nov Isakandar Golf events.. No more semi-D will be built for next 2-3 years.

The hills are expected to come with better furnishing, fiber to the home, alarm direct to the guardhouse etc.. That is why the bangalow are selling 2.5 to 3M.. and corner terrace with land are at 1.1M and above..

From what I heard,
1st stretch of bungalows in The Hills facing golf course = RM2.2 mil to RM2.7 mil.
2nd stretch of bungalows in The Hills facing golf course = RM3.2 mil to RM3.7 mil.
Next launch = I dunno.

As bros here have already pointed out, better finishing and quality as well as better security.
The quality of the neighbours should(assumed but not 100%) be slightly higher and of course
with royalty there means tighter security.

Hi Mathstub,
Mine is not in the Hills.. Even though the link house are more expensive, they are also bigger as well, close to the size of my semi-D... and looked more modern...
I think they are quite solid houses.

yes, it apply to all the houses in the Hills precinct, direct alarm with panic button for emergency too.

They did do it differently for the premium prices.

Yes, in a way, kind of copying EL houses with the panic button.

According to the brochure, East Ledang's panick button not only link to Guardhouse but also to Nusajaya's command centre.

Actually , price there is not that high for the rich and well off . Imagine they can buy sentosa cove at s$30M , what is RM2M to these people .

[g3abc]

Is the price at approx rm 750psf, for the Imperia ?
Would You know the price for the commercial block - unit price ar Imperia ?

What is better ? Ujana at East Ledang, or Imperia ?
Thanks

[Investor]

Hi all, thanks for wealth of information. I made a trip to Nusajaya last month and place was an eye-opener. A very nice lady at UEM office took me around and I was quite impressed with the quality at East Ledang but also the infrastructure being built around the place. Having missed the boat on Semi-Ds and Terrace units, I am quite keen on UEMs upcoming condo launches.

As I understand, that have 2 launches in the pipeline, Crescent (likely to be renamed) at East Ledang and Imperia at Puteri Harbour. They did not confirm the price but gave me an indiicative range of RM 400 - 600 psf for the condo at East Ledang and RM 550 - 800 for Imperia at Puteri Harbour.

They definitely more expensive compared to the numbers I saw on the posts earlier. That said, it wuld be very helpful if someone may advise if Imperia's 40% odd premium over East Ledang condo is justified.

Hi IskandarRocks,

You posted the above just 2 months ago and now you've already bought both Impiana and Imperia? Or East Ledang landed plus Imperia? I mean that's great to hear, you are one who acts and not just talk.

[arsenal]

Hi guys,

From Coastal Highway, what is the exit to East Ledang? I don't see any sign along the highway..

Rgds

[Investor]

Hi guys,

From Coastal Highway, what is the exit to East Ledang? I don't see any sign along the highway..

Rgds

No need to do any exit along the Coastal Highway because it's at the end of the Highway. Meaning just go straight along Coastal Highway and you'll reach Anjung Mall(outside East Ledang). The sign on the Highway, if I'm not wrong, should be 'Nusajaya'.

[Investor]

Mine are facing the Gateway and there are no obstruction at all. Therefore I am somewhat shocked ( or pleased? ) that someone has snapped up the "no-view" semis for RM 1.68M when I got mine at RM 1.2M.

Not forgetting the fact that he paid RM 1.68 mil for a unit with full Interior decor. So let's say we minus off RM 200k, he is actually willing to pay RM 1.48 mil for that unit, and it depends on the size of his unit too when comparing value to yours.

[arsenal]

No need to do any exit along the Coastal Highway because it's at the end of the Highway. Meaning just go straight along Coastal Highway and you'll reach Anjung Mall(outside East Ledang). The sign on the Highway, if I'm not wrong, should be 'Nusajaya'.

Thanks.. Anyone know the direction to the Orang Asli Seafood Kelong from Bukit Indah area?

[IskandarRocks]

Hi IskandarRocks,

You posted the above just 2 months ago and now you've already bought both Impiana and Imperia? Or East Ledang landed plus Imperia? I mean that's great to hear, you are one who acts and not just talk.

Yes, you have noticed well. I did act fast and picked up a EL landed and Imperia. I was quite convinced about the potential after 2-3 visits. Of course, the wealth of information on this forum was definitely the accelerator. Many thanks to all of you.

For some of you who have questions about Imperia, the price at pre-launch (from what I remember) started at RM 550 psf and goes all the way to RM 800 psf. This one has no bumi units from what I understand. The ones (3 bedrooms) facing the marina are significantly more, on a psf basis, than the ones that face the office block. On the day of the soft launch, they had received payments for around 60 units and were waiting for a wire transfer for another 20 units from Japanese buyers who were looking into the MM2H program. Not sure what the current number after adds and dropouts are. This is out of a total of 250 units. Given that I have not seen a single advertisement, I consider this to be pretty good. As someone mentioned, the full-launch will be in November and they were talking about bumping up the prices.

In terms of the developments, as you all know, Traders Hotel and Indoor Theme Park are coming up fast. I was also told that Legoland is putting a lot of pressure on UEM Land to get the CIQ center going fast so that they can start ferrying in visitors to the theme park once it opens next year. Not sure how soon this will happen but this should help boost the potential.

What is better? Ujana or Imperia? I was asking the same question earlier. Ujana is sold out. The new launch at East Ledang is Impiana. Pricing is different, as it was from RM 400 to RM 600 range. To me, Impiana sounded more like an upper-mid market segment. The targeted residents would be students at Educity. Imperia, on the other hand, is positioned at high end or luxury and the target residents would be professionals and executives. So it really depends on what you are looking at as well as your appetite for risk. Imperia is definitely riskier, as it is more expensive and there are fewer firmed up developments around Puteri Harbour (meaning under construction) compared with East Ledang. My decision towards Imperia was based on the potentailly fantastic views of the harbour, located near future CIQ, and also the quality of finishings as noticed in the show units. Hope this helps.

[mathstub]

Bro Wuqi, Thank you very much for the info. It makes sense to me when you are helping people and doing good deeds, you can get surprising prizes. I am also helping a lot of younger ones to improve their studies and they are the future of the country.

You find them if you are
1. Well connected

Or
2. In property line

Or in my case
3. Help in some tiny little insignificant ways for others.
All of a sudden, some neighbours or people i know will just drop by,
bringing lots of food and information.

Yes and Yes to both questions. The thing for HH is their Bumi units are sold almost as soon as they come out (released) into the market.
You can definitely get it cheaper versus the newly launched ones. The thing is, you will have a shorter defect coverage period typically but
this differs from developer to developer.

[euphony]

aiyo very hard to describe and not easy to get to as well. You can go via gelang patah passing by LF or go via PTP highway, at the crucial junction where the 2 roads meet make a turn and follow the road towards the PTP direction. should see a sign 5 minutes in where you cross over a single lane bridge. there are 2. Chinese one on left and malay on right. I have tried the chinese-owned (but halal) one. Food is not life changing but the ambience over the waters is great. not cheap but not expensive either. if i do venture there in the future, I will take down the gps coordinates.

Thanks.. Anyone know the direction to the Orang Asli Seafood Kelong from Bukit Indah area?