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    Quote Originally Posted by Aisanbo View Post
    Hm....EDL was not opened as originally intended.

    BTW, why is the new 2nd Living in JB thread closed ?
    Was reported in the Straits Times as well...in Malaysia, one has to get used to all these false starts...hahaha...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diaspora View Post
    Well....the 'kulit'-fication factor...not qualification....hahahah...
    Anyone heard of chinese singaporean who got malaysian citizenship?
    Don't know true or not, but I'd even heard that if you are a Muslim, things will be much easier, regardless of race. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diaspora View Post
    Well....the 'kulit'-fication factor...not qualification....hahahah...
    Anyone heard of chinese singaporean who got malaysian citizenship?

    If u really plan together Malaysia PR or citizenship, I think the easiest way is be a Muslim and have a Malay name then maybe they will take u in? As their country name itself already ........

    Malaysia.... Place for Malays...... Sia!!! How good it can change its name ??

    Maybe sialayma!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arowana88 View Post
    If u really plan together Malaysia PR or citizenship, I think the easiest way is be a Muslim and have a Malay name then maybe they will take u in? As their country name itself already ........

    Malaysia.... Place for Malays...... Sia!!! How good it can change its name ??

    Maybe sialayma!
    Abdullah sounds good also. I have a cousin who had converted because he married a Malay wife and that's his Islamic name.
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    This is utter rubbish and insensitive

    Respect our neighbor bro. More so u r living there soon ... This kind of joke better don't make ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arowana88 View Post
    If u really plan together Malaysia PR or citizenship, I think the easiest way is be a Muslim and have a Malay name then maybe they will take u in? As their country name itself already ........

    Malaysia.... Place for Malays...... Sia!!! How good it can change its name ??

    Maybe sialayma!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoami View Post
    Hmm..are they above 62 or 65 yrs old. Can w/draw CPF even if u migrate to West Msia??
    From my understanding, once you throw your pink IC back, you'll have to sell your HDB within 6 months (if applicable) and they'll also have to release all your CPF to you thereafter. However, don't ever think of getting the pink IC again in future, unless you are similar in status to Li Ka Shing or equivalent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winners View Post
    Maxpark, I believe you are still in your prime years and your work contributions may still be valuable to Singapore. Trust me, unless you are very rich, otherwise, once you've reached your twilight years and you happen to be out of job, you will experience what those of the same age in Singapore are presently encountering. Thereafter, I believe you'll have a different opinion as of now.
    This I will totally agree! U buy expensive car, big house, many bills to pay, one day kana retrench, or worse if u visit casino , in no time u will feel the stress and pinch, wondering how to settle all the loans and bills, later credit burea will blacklist u of this and that. No job, no money, no pay bills, slowing all the things around u will be gone, bankrupt, no electricity and water, use candles, rent a HDB flat ina 1 room flat, thinking suicide, no one help u...
    This is what some ppl in sing going tru, just buy straits times and go to classified ads see how many ppl kana bankrupt.!

    Sing only interested in $$$$$$$$$ , u earn money there, then the rest will earn yr money until u totally suck dry !!! Be happy and content in yr job, if u fall asleep in yr work the next day yr boss ask u Tml dun need to come back to work ! Or maybe yr company close down then kana retrench, the only way out for them is to go back Malaysia to stay, sell everything in sing and bring all the money along!!! There is nothing wrong with that, and I can say that is a better solution, cos sing really not a place to stay , only good to earn $$$$$$!!
    If u filthy rich then sing is a best place for u! If u r not so rich - at least few millions sing dollars in bank earning interests the other Asia country will be better place to spend yr money or retire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arowana88 View Post
    This I will totally agree! U buy expensive car, big house, many bills to pay, one day kana retrench, or worse if u visit casino , in no time u will feel the stress and pinch, wondering how to settle all the loans and bills, later credit burea will blacklist u of this and that. No job, no money, no pay bills, slowing all the things around u will be gone, bankrupt, no electricity and water, use candles, rent a HDB flat ina 1 room flat, thinking suicide, no one help u...
    This is what some ppl in sing going tru, just buy straits times and go to classified ads see how many ppl kana bankrupt.!

    Sing only interested in $$$$$$$$$ , u earn money there, then the rest will earn yr money until u totally suck dry !!! Be happy and content in yr job, if u fall asleep in yr work the next day yr boss ask u Tml dun need to come back to work ! Or maybe yr company close down then kana retrench, the only way out for them is to go back Malaysia to stay, sell everything in sing and bring all the money along!!! There is nothing wrong with that, and I can say that is a better solution, cos sing really not a place to stay , only good to earn $$$$$$!!
    If u filthy rich then sing is a best place for u! If u r not so rich - at least few millions sing dollars in bank earning interests the other Asia country will be better place to spend yr money or retire.
    That is why I'll always say to exercise prudence even if one is rich. Like my niece. Both husband and wife are Harvard graduates and working in the financial line, earning very good money. Bought a house in Siglap for S$6m and heard the rebuilding and renovations cost another S$3m. Now with many banks cutting their bonuses and possible retrenchments, they are getting a bit "chuak-chuak" already. I believe they'll have to fall back on their parents to help service their loans temporarily should either 1 of them goes out of job, albeit temporarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoami View Post
    If u r a malay and u renounce ur pink citizenship, chances of being a Msian citizen very likely u will succeed.

    But to get a PR status, very slim although u may be a Malay. Tats my understanding and info i got fm bumi tere.

    Hmm..are they above 62 or 65 yrs old. Can w/draw CPF even if u migrate to West Msia??
    I think for W Malaysian, if the person undertake not/never to work in Singapore again, then can withdraw all monies and close account.
    I suppose it works the same for Singaporean migrating to foreign country. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    Correct about west Malaysian. Incorrect for Sg citizen.

    http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/CPF/my-cpf/Overseas/LivO9.htm

    I think section 2 refers to the citizen. Note the part about "no returning to Sg and west Malaysia". So strict! We have no way out ...

    Quote Originally Posted by edragon View Post
    I think for W Malaysian, if the person undertake not/never to work in Singapore again, then can withdraw all monies and close account.
    I suppose it works the same for Singaporean migrating to foreign country. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoami View Post
    If u r a malay and u renounce ur pink citizenship, chances of being a Msian citizen very likely u will succeed...
    Don't even need to be a Malay.
    Take out the intel chip from your computer and show them.
    If it says 'Malay' then hosayliao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DREAMorACTION View Post
    Correct about west Malaysian. Incorrect for Sg citizen.

    http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/CPF/my-cpf/Overseas/LivO9.htm

    I think section 2 refers to the citizen. Note the part about "no returning to Sg and west Malaysia". So strict! We have no way out ...

    KNN the Singapore government. How can they impose their own jurisdiction against those residing in Malaysia? This section 2 must be just a recent implementation because I'm very sure my ex-Singaporean Malay neighbor had told me that she and her brother had fully withdrawn their CPFs to buy houses in JB upon their obtaining of their Malaysian citizenship.

    In that case, we can still go and stay in a 3rd country for a short period and once the CPF is fully gotten back, then come to Malaysia lah. What can the Singapore government do after that, apart from banning them eternally from entering Singapore again.

    Hmm.... why don't they include Batam as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpark View Post
    Winners, thats why I've also been buying into Malaysia too (not just JB) - in case things dont quite work out for us in Singapore in future, exactly just like you said - apart from the strong belief that it is great place to invest right now.

    I'm not any scholar or some corporate high flyer or anything like that... but through several years of savings, prudent investments, etc, I have and I am sure many here too, been able to own properties in Singapore and overseas.

    That's my earlier message too : that for most countries, generally only the Top 5-10% of the population will have the means to invest overseas ...

    Whereas for many of the middle class in Singapore (not to mention the rich), if they choose to do so, they should have the means to own a property or two in Malaysia or China or Thailand or USA or Australia, etc... do you stop to ask yourselves why and how was this made possible?

    Therefore, I think we should be just a little tad thankful for what we have had and achieved, coming from Singapore - thats all I said.
    I did not ask for any validation nor agreement, just stating my personal viewpoints in an open forum but obviously, I did not expect such strong reactions and negativity as well.

    Singapore is definitely NOT perfect, far from it... but if there is anywhere that is perfect, please let me know... haha.
    I'm not sure if its due to a chip or two on the shoulders thingy issue for some here... but to hear all these continual bashing, put-downs, moralising and belittlements about Singapore and every tiny warts and all, is a bit of a stretch and frankly, tiresome.

    Good luck mate, wish you well in your JB journey too.
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    Hi maxpark,

    Congrats on your success. No doubt you work very hard to achieve what you have now.

    I believed you have totally understood the workings of capitalism where you accumulate capital and at the same time grow the capital into a mountain through time.
    As you correctly pointed out only only top 5-10% have the capital to invest in properties overseas, the balance 90-95% would not.

    Therefore, it is this imbalance in the capitalist society that enables this situation or opportunity. It is neither a fair or unfair situation if you are in the majority group instead of in the minority capitalist group.

    So, the message here is "capitalism is great!" for those who have made it and too bad for those who moan.
    Is this good or rather capitalism is good for our society?

    However, there is no choice as even China and Russia have changed.
    In China, I was in a friend's car passing a human push cart at the side of the highway.
    Imagine that was only a few years ago. What a shock!

    Food for thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DREAMorACTION View Post
    Correct about west Malaysian. Incorrect for Sg citizen.

    http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/CPF/my-cpf/Overseas/LivO9.htm

    I think section 2 refers to the citizen. Note the part about "no returning to Sg and west Malaysia". So strict! We have no way out ...
    Thanks for correcting me so options is either Thailand, East Malaysia or Indonesia for nearby countries.
    I think Thailand do have a long term retirement stay for foreigners aged 50 and above but still it is more than 800km away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DREAMorACTION View Post
    Correct about west Malaysian. Incorrect for Sg citizen.

    http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/CPF/my-cpf/Overseas/LivO9.htm

    I think section 2 refers to the citizen. Note the part about "no returning to Sg and west Malaysia". So strict! We have no way out ...

    Bro, no lar...can still return...

    "Refund of CPF

    If you are an ex-Singapore Citizen or Singapore Permanent Resident (PR) and wish to return as a PR again, you would need to refund the full CPF amount you had previously withdrawn. A Letter of Clearance would then be issued to you for your submission to the Immigration and Checkpoint Authority (ICA) for completion of the PR formalities."

    But I was informed that you need to not only refund the CPF monies but also the compunded interests....
    Sigh~~~~ but this is my money what???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arowana88 View Post
    If u really plan together Malaysia PR or citizenship, I think the easiest way is be a Muslim and have a Malay name then maybe they will take u in? As their country name itself already ........

    Malaysia.... Place for Malays...... Sia!!! How good it can change its name ??

    Maybe sialayma!
    Be respectful please now that u set foot on JB soil.

    Anyway ur assumptions on the above are all rojak...no pun intended tere..

    Quote Originally Posted by Diaspora View Post
    Bro, no lar...can still return...

    "Refund of CPF

    If you are an ex-Singapore Citizen or Singapore Permanent Resident (PR) and wish to return as a PR again, you would need to refund the full CPF amount you had previously withdrawn. A Letter of Clearance would then be issued to you for your submission to the Immigration and Checkpoint Authority (ICA) for completion of the PR formalities."

    But I was informed that you need to not only refund the CPF monies but also the compunded interests....
    Sigh~~~~ but this is my money what???
    Return as a PR...not as a pink card holder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoami View Post
    Be respectful please now that u set foot on JB soil.

    Anyway ur assumptions on the above are all rojak...no pun intended tere..



    Return as a PR...not as a pink card holder.
    To my limited knowledge...in this region, the one country which allows someone who has renounce his/her birth citizenship for another; and only to return to apply for his/her birth citizenship years later is the Philippines. True?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpark View Post
    Perak is also not too bad.
    Nice food, clean water and lots of pretty girls.
    They say the prettiest ones come from Perak.
    Congrats for marrying one.
    Yeah, especially the leggy mini-skirted sales promoters at those pomelo stalls near the famous temples in Ipoh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diaspora View Post
    To my limited knowledge...in this region, the one country which allows someone who has renounce his/her birth citizenship for another; and only to return to apply for his/her birth citizenship years later is the Philippines. True?
    Dont have much knowledge on PinoyLand leh. Only sikit on BolehLand.
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    ni.JPG

    Couple of wks ago, went to this precinct.

    Beautiful tasik, beautiful lake view.
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