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Retire in Thailand anyone?

JohnTan

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Thailand is cheap for many good reasons - corruption, unsafe streets, political instability, low quality schools and public infrastructure.

Richer people who love to retire in Thailand are simply using their very strong purchasing power to off-set all these problems that kept Thailand cheap in the first place. If you are an average Thai, Thailand sucks big time.
 

syed putra

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This is why muslims do not drink alcohol. If they do, the violence among malays will be as bad as those in thailand,
 

shittypore

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This is why muslims do not drink alcohol. If they do, the violence among malays will be as bad as those in thailand,

No alcohol they start bombing, killing and raping even their own type. With alcohol they will even tink they are greater than Allah.
 

Devil Within

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If you stay low profile, respect the locals and be humble, you can do well anywhere.

[video=youtube;W8NVciXwusc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8NVciXwusc[/video]

Retire in Thailand: how to retire early in Thailand part 1
[video=youtube;htVW2V52zdI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htVW2V52zdI[/video]
 

johnny333

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In places like in Spore it is usually locals getting beaten up by foreigners:eek:

Spore now has all kinds of problems like the unreliable MRT trains, haze, errant elevators, falling windows, ... Also have all kinds of careless & dangerous car drivers, motor cyclists, cyclist, ..

We also have expensive parasites: mosquitoes, rats, overpaid bureaucrats, ...

At the end of the day you have to decide if you want to stay in a cheaper 3rd country like Thailand or if you can afford to live in an expensive place like Spore, where you are subsidising the foreigners & the PAP?
 

syed putra

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Thailand is cheap for many good reasons - corruption, unsafe streets, political instability, low quality schools and public infrastructure.

Richer people who love to retire in Thailand are simply using their very strong purchasing power to off-set all these problems that kept Thailand cheap in the first place. If you are an average Thai, Thailand sucks big time.
I think thailand has a branch of eton college in bangkok. They export over a million cars and trucks a year. Its the most visited country by china prc tourist, together with south korea and japan and their commuter rail miles more reliable than in singapore. Their airport busier than changi, with third runway and terminal being built at suvarnabhumi, and despite having another low cost airport at don muang, which already has two runways.
Airasia may even relocate their international office to bangkok.
 

dr.wailing

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I don't understand why you guys won't want to consider the United States. Both my wife and I are very happy to be in the land of the free and live the American dream.
 

garlic

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Only consider thailand if u can live with the fact that the murder rate is 3 times that of colombia, matches the US and gun ownership is one of the highest in the world.
 

Narong Wongwan

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Only consider thailand if u can live with the fact that the murder rate is 3 times that of colombia, matches the US and gun ownership is one of the highest in the world.

Dun talk thru your arse la. Surely you must be joking
Show some stats to back you up.
 

garlic

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Dun talk thru your arse la. Surely you must be joking
Show some stats to back you up.

Thailand's troubling gun murders
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With murder rate equal to US & three times Cambodia, Thailand's 6.1 million registered firearms used in never-ending stream of murder cases with loss-of-face & business disputes two main motives.


With 6.1 million registered firearms in Thailand, newspapers carry a never-ending series of high-profile gun-related murders.
GUNS

A bullet and a body: Thailand's troubling gun murders

11/08/2015
AFP News agency

Rungrat Rungsuwan was manning her small shop selling trinkets on a main tourist drag on the island of Koh Samui when she heard a series of loud bangs.

"At first I thought they were firecrackers," she told AFP as tourists in flip-flops and singlets filed past her storefront in the resort island's Fisherman's Village. "But once people realised it was gunfire everyone panicked and started running. Some people came into my shop to hide."

It was early March and just metres away influential local businessman Panas Khao-uthai lay dead, six bullets fired into his body at close range by two assassins who calmly unloaded their pistols in broad daylight.

For the holidaymakers forced to dive for cover that evening, the murder --- which police say was over a commercial dispute -- was a glimpse into a reality familiar to locals: the country's deadly enthusiasm for guns.


Police remove the body of a man shot on a Bangkok shuttle bus in July, allegedly because he criticised the driver’s driving skills. (Photo by Thiti Wannamontha)
KILLINGS OVER LOSS OF FACE OR BUSINESS DISPUTES

Renowned to outsiders for its laid-back, welcoming vibe, Thailand is also a country awash with firearms where disputes are all too frequently settled with a bullet and a body.

Barely a week goes by without a new headline-grabbing killing, usually stemming from a humiliation -- or a loss of face -- over a personal or business dispute.

In one recent case, a woman was shot in the neck by an angry lover in a mall, while another saw a man gunned down outside his Bangkok apartment block after arguing with a security guard.

In a third, a bus driver shot a passenger in the chest because his victim had repeatedly criticised his road skills.

As one western police officer stationed at an embassy in Bangkok told AFP: "There is a real culture of guns in Thailand, it's a military-style culture, a place of uniforms and male power."

Assessing the precise fallout of the kingdom's enthusiasm for weaponry is difficult.

The Thai government does not provide a specific breakdown for annual gun murders outside of the country's deep south, where a local Muslim insurgency has killed more than 6,400 in the last decade.

But the Gunpolicy.org website, an online database of global gun statistics run by the University of Sydney's School of Public Health, believes Thailand has one of the highest gun homicide rates in Asia.

It estimates 3.48 murders per 100,000 people in Thailand, three times the rate of neighbouring Cambodia and on par with the United States.

What is much clearer is the sheer number of weapons in civilian hands.


Police show weapons seized in raids on 26 locations owned by influential figures on Koh Samui following the early March killing of prominent local businessman Panas Khao-uthai. (Photo by Wassayos Ngamkam)
WORLD-LEADER IN FIREARMS-RELATED HOMICIDES

According to the Interior Ministry, there are 6.1 million registered firearms in Thailand, a country with 67 million people.

GunPolicy.org puts the total number of firearms at closer to 10 million, once the thriving black market trade is counted.

As the US State Department's Bureau for Diplomatic Security wrote in its safety report for overseas staff: "Thailand has a fervent gun culture on par with the United States and has become a world leader in firearms-related homicides."

But while the US has long experienced a passionate debate on gun control, Thailand largely greets the human toll of its firearms obsession with a collective shrug.

"No one has taken responsibility, no one has really taken up the issue," lamented Kasit Piromya, a former foreign minister who believes tighter gun controls are needed, as well as an amnesty for illegal weapons.

LACK OF OUTRAGE DUE TO CONCEPT OF KARMA

The lack of outrage shown over gun murders, Mr. Kasit believes is down to the concept of karma.

"When you die, you die. It's acceptance and resignation. We take death calmly as part of life," said Mr Kasit, who owns two registered pistols.

On paper, Thailand has strict gun controls but the law is easily circumnavigated.

The sheer availability of weaponry concerns Pol Col Akaradet Pimolsri, the head of Thailand's police commando unit, each time his officers hit the streets.

"I want every gun to be registered," Pol Col Akaradet of the elite Crime Suppression Division, told AFP at the unit's Bangkok headquarters.

A key step would be for the government to set up a database containing the "ballistic fingerprints" of all over the counter weapons.

KILLERS STILL ON THE LOOSE

In late July, AFP accompanied Pol Col Akaradet and 200 of his commandos on a dawn raid in Uthai Thani, a central province renowned for its crime syndicates.

Their target were two suspects in a 2011 gun murder in which a policeman was killed. His officers took no chances, arming themselves with assault rifles, shotguns and body armour.

But by the time the convoy reached a series of mansions on the outskirts of town there was no sign of the main suspects -- although 20 guns, ammunition and bullet proof vests were seized.

The killers are still on the loose.

Back on Koh amui, an island where tourism is a crucial mainstay of the economy, police also responded forcefully to the killing of the local businessman Panas, arresting the alleged gunmen and conducting a series of raids that netted almost 100 weapons, Akaradet said.

At the streetside restaurant where the killing took place, the tables are filled once more with tourists oblivious to the violence that occurred there three months ago.

Laurent Haroutinian, the French manager of the restaurant where the shooting took place, said they reopened after just two days.

"It was the first time I saw anything like this," he said. "And I hope it is the last"

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/spe...let-and-a-body-thailand-troubling-gun-murders

My bad for misreading cambodia as columbia, but everything else remains true.
 
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garlic

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"The estimated total number of guns (both licit and illicit) held by civilians in Thailand is 10,000,0001"

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/thailand

For a population of 67m+, 10m guns are held by them, that is astonishing to say the least.

Thailand is on the list of top ten countries with the Most Guns in Private Hands

Every wonder which countries have the most firepower in private hands? This article lists off those nations. Unlike most lists that cover this subject, ours will be based on total amount of privately-owned firearms rather than guns per capita.

Data is taken from Small Arms Survey.

Honorable mentions that didn’t make the top 10 include Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Serbia, and Finland.

10. Canada

Estimated private firearms: 9,950,000
31 guns per 100 residents
We expected Canada to be a lot higher on this list but the True North barely squeezed by into the top 10. Canada does have a long and rich history of gun ownership, and experts say that more and more young people are getting involved in shooting sports. However, a lengthy and complicated process to purchase firearms dissuades many from buying their own.

Check out our list of guns that are available in Canada but not the United States here.


9. Thailand

Estimated private firearms: 10,000,000
16 guns per 100 residents
On a single road in Bangkok, over 80 gun shops fight and jostle for customers to enter their shops or check their stalls. This is indicative of the reverent gun culture in Thailand—one that is a match for the United States. Actually purchasing a firearm is still a long and demanding process, but that does not stop residents from being armed. Firearms are much more expensive in Thailand than in the States, and the same brand-name guns that are widely available elsewhere can cost up to five times higher in the Asian nation. This is due to the fact that there are few gun manufacturers in Thailand and most weapons are imported. Most of the guns there are American or Chinese-made.

“Consumers for firearms in Thailand are mostly middle to upper class,” Firearms Association of Thailand’s Polpatr Tanomsup told CNN. “They want better quality, because if they imported China-made guns, it would not be much cheaper than American-made firearms, and the quality for American is much higher. It is collectible, easy to sell, easy to buy, easy to get parts.”

8. Yemen

Estimated private firearms: 11,500,000
55 guns per 100 residents
If there is a country that can outmatch the United States in gun ownership, it might be Yemen. It is nearly mandatory for residents to own at least one firearm, and almost wherever you go, you will find guns up for grab. Uncertain about their future, the people of Yemen rely on their trusty firearms for protection.

“In Yemen, no matter if you’re rich or poor, you must have guns. Even if it’s just one piece,” Abdul Wahab al-Ammari, a tribal sheikh from Yemen’s Ibb province, told The Atlantic. “I have maybe 14 high powered weapons, and 3 handguns [at home].”

7. Brazil

Estimated private firearms: 14,840,000
8 guns per 100 residents
Unlike Yemen, one of the world’s poorest nations, Brazil is a rising star on the global stage. Like most of the nations on this list, gun ownership is not a legal right in Brazil. Residents have to be at least 25 years old to apply for a ownership permit, which must be renewed every three years, and actual carry permits are hard to obtain. Despite these hurdles, gun ownership remains popular in Brazil and being home to notable manufacturers like Taurus makes the country the second-largest gun-producing nation in the Western Hemisphere.

6. Mexico

Estimated private firearms: 15,500,000
15 guns per 100 residents
Previously, Mexico’s constitution guaranteed the right to bear arms. The current version limits that right to only keeping arms, and in practice, gun ownership is heavily restricted. In some of Mexico’s more dangerous areas, security forces are spread thin and residents are called upon to defend themselves with their own firearms.

5. Pakistan

Estimated private firearms: 18,000,000
12 guns per 100 residents
Home of the notorious Khyber Pass and its gun “industry,” it comes as no surprise that Pakistan made it onto this list. Amateur and experienced gunsmiths alike work in the Khyber Pass region, producing unlicensed and, in many cases, homemade-quality firearms from materials like railway rails and scrap metal.

4. Germany

Estimated private firearms: 25,000,000
30 guns per 100 residents
Whether it’s for hunting wild boar or sport shooting, guns are very popular in Germany. Commonplace though they might be, Germany has severe restrictions on what kind of guns one can buy, and applicants for gun ownership must prove a need before being issued a permit. Self-defense isn’t necessarily an accepted reason. Nonetheless, German gun owners say that such regulations are expected.

“On the one hand, we think, ‘Oh, it’s very restrictive, and we don’t like that,’” sport shooter Friedrich Gepperth told NPR. “On the other hand, each case of misuse by a legal gun owner is very bad for us, so we are not going against the restrictions very much.”

3. China

Estimated private firearms: 40,000,000
5 guns per 100 residents
Surprised to see this country on the list? Despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the world—a blanket ban on private firearm ownership—gun culture seems to be taking hold. How is this possible? With a multitude of shooting and hunting clubs, guns are once again finding their place back into Chinese hands. According to some, it’s hard not to romanticize firearms due to their popularity in film and television.

“In the 1960s, shooting was for national defense,” Xie Xianqiao, a former shooting coach, told The Wall Street Journal. “These days, shooting is entertainment.”

That said, private ownership without the proper permits can still lead to a hefty fine and lengthy prison sentence. Crimes committed with a firearm often receive the death penalty.

2. India

Estimated private firearms: 45,000,000
5 guns per 100 residents
Guns in the world’s most populous democracy are both protection and a status symbol. Proper firearms are expensive—enough to be included in dowries—and a single 1911 pistol can sell for several times its asking US price. Domestically-produced guns are available, but lack the reliability and style of foreign-made firearms. Concern over sexual attacks have also led to guns becoming more popular among women—as well as fathers.

Bank manager Jagdeep Singh says he keeps a pistol on his hip to fight off bandits during long car rides, but it also gives him safety of mind when he’s home.

“I have two good-looking daughters,” he told The Los Angeles Times, “another reason I keep a gun.”

1. United States of America

Estimated private firearms: 270,000,000
89 guns per 100 residents
Was there ever really any doubt that we’d be number one on this list? The United States of America is by far the best country in the world to be in if you want to own guns. The constitutional right to keep and bear arms (where it isn’t infringed upon by local law), combined with large popular support for gun ownership and easy availability, make the United States a gun collector’s dream.

http://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2015/08/26/10-countries-guns-private-hands/
 
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frenchbriefs

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in thailand u are allowed to beat up white man,in japan u are allowed to march and protest and shout "whitto piggu go home!!!"when will be the day sinkies are allowed to speak their minds?
 

garlic

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Regardless, thailand is still my no.1 choice for retiring... just have to bring one's wits about when going out..
 

Emmanuel

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Only consider thailand if u can live with the fact that the murder rate is 3 times that of colombia, matches the US and gun ownership is one of the highest in the world.

Wrong! murder rate definitely doesn't match central or south american countries which even beats South Africa. US also wins thailand by a mile in gang violence and gun violence. Try living in camden new jersey. It's true a lot of thais own guns but surprisingly gun violence isn't really as widespread as say in the US.
 

garlic

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Wrong! murder rate definitely doesn't match central or south american countries which even beats South Africa. US also wins thailand by a mile in gang violence and gun violence. Try living in camden new jersey. It's true a lot of thais own guns but surprisingly gun violence isn't really as widespread as say in the US.

Yeah, already said i read wrongly in my previous post. It should be Cambodia...
 
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