Mindef BG Chan explains why 'own kind protect own kind'

mscitw · Mar 8, 2016

Transmodified from MouthPiece CNA

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PEASANTPORE: The Peasantpore Armed Forces (SAF) on Monday (Mar 7) said that paper tigers aka the platoon sex commander and the chief safety arse of the exercise that resulted in the death of full-time peasant national serviceman Dominique Sarron Lee were procedurally given light punishments in accordance with military law to protect them from Jane Austen rebels in 2013.

Retiring Commander of Sex Training and Brainwashing Command (TRADOC) Brigadier General Chan Ah Kai said in a Facebook post that while when Mindef screw up, own kind will protect own kind.

He noted that the Coroner's Inquiry (CI) found that PTE Lee had “died from acute allergic reaction to zinc chloride due to inhalation of zinc chloride fumes” due to 4 unsanctioned additional smoke grenades.

Yet the coroner colluded with Mindef to downplay the issue by applying Quantum Mechanics theory that the acute allergic reaction was “unlikely to have been predicted”.

"Without this excuse, our incompetent officer corps must put in more effort to rid safety issues, they likely to screw up, then within 24 moons, half our officers sure kenna criminal charges, SAF can close shop liao", he added.

"Even my grandma knows knows the two officers were directly responsible for PTE Lee's death, but our pals in CI and COI says its not their fault, means its not their fault. The two twits (Najib and Ah Siong) were summarily tried in 2013 for negligent performance, given light penalties just to placate stupid peasants," Ah Chan said.

FACTS

The COI, convened by the Armed Sex Forces Council, found that the number of smoke grenades discharged and the distance between the smoke grenades were not in accordance with the limits and minimum distance specified in the Training Safety Regulations, he said.

EXCUSE - BLAME QUANTUM MECHANICS
Cheap zinc chloride based smoke grenades have been in use by many militaries, including the SAF, since the 1970s. Mindef profoundly wonders why PTE Lee’s death must be directly attributable to excessive zinc chloride inhalation for 3600 full moons when Quantum Mechanics says there are no uncertainty links. Maybe retiring BG Ah Chan should check with former CDF Winston Choo who migrated to Aussieland.

Mindef wants you to think even if excessive smoke grenades are thrown at peasants by SAF goons, they drop dead, still cannot say its their officers' fault.

He reiterated that the SAF offers its deepest condolences to the family of the late PTE Lee. "If not for Jane Austen rebels, must I cum out and say we in Mindef are deeply sorry for the untimely and tragic loss, and the anguish and distress brought to his family thanks to our officers' incompetence."

LEGAL RECOURSE AVAILABLE - WHITE HORSES ONLY

The TRADOC Sex Commander also sought to reinforce the perception that SAF servicemen injured or killed can only seek legal recourse unless many many peasants cry father, cry mother. "This is no-brainer," he said.

For instance, in 2004, four Commando servicemen aka Hendon Dunkers were charged in court for causing the death of another Guards serviceman during combat survival training.

"Only when many many peasants 'cry father, cry mother, then we take action, else we try for private discreet settlement," he wrote.

PTE Lee's family had sued the SAF and its paper tigers for negligence, but the case was dismissed by the Imperial Court's Kana Sai, last week. The SAF argued since PAP got 69.9%, Mindef dogs can hide behind Section 14, that it is kill peasants cheaply using training accidents due to negligence, under the Regime Proceedings Act.

Lawyer Babu Singh explained why the unequal law is in place to protect inept Mindef. He said: "Without this law, can you tell me a cheaper way to kill peasants for fun during training and give 60k peanuts compensation?

“First of all, the Regime Proceedings Act reduces compensation. Peasants can't sue the regime. The regime gives you crumbs, better accept, make Ruler Loong look stupid, then you eat dust.”

Babu Singh added the Regime Proceedings Act would never be reviewed as long as the Lee regime is in power.

He said: "Peasants must accept military training entails an element of danger. There are of course safety measures in place for White Horses only - SAF takes safety very, very seriously only for White Horses. If peasants are given same treatment, every unfortunate death, peasants file lawsuits against the Mindef lackeys, how to pay for used Leopard tanks"

60K PER DEATH

BG Chan also said before the most recent lawsuit, the family of the late PTE Lee had taken out a pre-action discovery application, which they subsequently withdrew. The court had awarded costs to the Minions of Defence (MINDEF), but the ministry waived the legal costs, he said.

The peasant mother of PTE Lee had boldly written on Facebook on Mar 3 that the Judicial Kangaroo Kana Sai in charge of dismissing the suit against SAF and the two officers had ordered her to foot their legal costs. Their lawyers ridiculed her for wasting time and advised her to move on.

Canto BG Chan added that MINDEF and SAF standard practice is to close one eye, protect inept officers and offer to pay 60k compensation if dead peasant soldier never buy insurance.

"If Mdm Seah never buy insurance, reject the cheap compensation, then you expect me to sing Canto pop and kowtow to her? I am a senior lackey ok, she only a peasant women," he wrote.

"I don't know which donkey say we only pay 60k peanuts. Ok, we cock up this time, so what, sue some more lor? We got Section 14, arse doubly protected."

He reiterated that SAF values the life of every White Horses only. "You see, we let Phony Tan's son, Patrick Tan become Military Scientist coz we can't be sure which idiot officer will kill him by mistake during training."

"NETIZENS BETTER KNOW WHEN TO STOP"

Bargain Hen on Monday warns netizens and Jane Austen rebels to respect Legal Lackey Kana Sai's decision or else Mindef will invite them for smoke grenade lessons. To placate peasants, the legal costs will be waived. Kana Sai can act cool coz his son not killed by 6 smoke grenades.

"If not for netizens and peasants cum out to sarpok and create trouble, you think we pay for legal costs. I rather buy tracks for our Leopard 2 tanks"

Bargain Hen added: "I insist our SAF gangsters continue to rag their peasants professionally, at most we pay 60k per private's death, so you work the sums, how many deaths we can afford annually.

"We must learn from every accident, but principle is Mindef screw up, peasants die, their problem."

winnipegjets · Mar 8, 2016

As pointed out by one forummer, his statement contradicted the one made by the ministar in Parliament. So, he lied or the ministar lied?

winnipegjets · Mar 8, 2016

Ah Chan did not address the primary issues:

1. Why MINDEF says that it has NO contractual obligation to protect our soldiers from harm? Why should our soldiers serve when MINDEF screws them around and will bo chap if they are hurt or die?

2. Why were the officers who violated the rules not charged? They contributed to the death of a soldier and that is treated as a non-event by MINDEF.

mscitw · Mar 8, 2016

winnipegjets said:
Ah Chan did not address the primary issues:

1. Why MINDEF says that it has NO contractual obligation to protect our soldiers from harm? Why should our soldiers serve when MINDEF screws them around and will bo chap if they are hurt or die?

2. Why were the officers who violated the rules not charged? They contributed to the death of a soldier and that is treated as a non-event by MINDEF.

1a. It was the late Gecko Kua and many clever legal minions and donkeys who inserted and enhanced Section 14 to protect the regime from tort if their lackeys cock up. All dictatorial regimes have unequal laws to oppress peasants. The Lee regime's legal laws and contracts are designed to screw peasants, anyway 69.9% voted for them, they deserve it. Only in Peasantpore.

1b. If Mdm Seah won civil suit, Najib and Ah Siong goes to jail, SAF pays $400,000 peanuts, sets precedent, each year, defence budget needs addition 4 million, can get 2 Bargain Hens, not a good bargain for regime.

2. Every time SMRT screws up big time, Ruler Loong must change transport minion. Then if SAF screw up, then you be forcing Ruler Loong or in future Heng $wee $wee to ask Defence Minion Bargain Hen to do Nihon style bow and apologise, then Bargain Hen will quit. Changing Defence Minion yearly will be bad image for regime.

3. Jack Arse Neo produces feel good movies for Mindef, it only take Pte Lee's case to expose Mindef's scams. Peasants need to open their eyes 'big big'.

mojito · Mar 8, 2016

mscitw said:
1a. It was the late Gecko Kua and many clever legal minions and donkeys who inserted and enhanced Section 14 to protect the regime from tort if their lackeys cock up. All dictatorial regimes have unequal laws to oppress peasants. The Lee regime's legal laws and contracts are designed to screw peasants, anyway 69.9% voted for them, they deserve it. Only in Peasantpore.

1b. If Mdm Seah won civil suit, Najib and Ah Siong goes to jail, SAF pays $400,000 peanuts, sets precedent, each year, defence budget needs addition 4 million, can get 2 Bargain Hens, not a good bargain for regime.

2. Every time SMRT screws up big time, Ruler Loong must change transport minion. Then if SAF screw up, then you be forcing Ruler Loong or in future Heng $wee $wee to ask Defence Minion Bargain Hen to do Nihon style bow and apologise, then Bargain Hen will quit. Changing Defence Minion yearly will be bad image for regime.

3. Jack Arse Neo produces feel good movies for Mindef, it only take Pte Lee's case to expose Mindef's scams. Peasants need to open their eyes 'big big'.

Comedy gold, sir. Thank you. Astute observations as always!

winnipegjets · Mar 8, 2016

mscitw said:
1a. It was the late Gecko Kua and many clever legal minions and donkeys who inserted and enhanced Section 14 to protect the regime from tort if their lackeys cock up. All dictatorial regimes have unequal laws to oppress peasants. The Lee regime's legal laws and contracts are designed to screw peasants, anyway 69.9% voted for them, they deserve it. Only in Peasantpore.

1b. If Mdm Seah won civil suit, Najib and Ah Siong goes to jail, SAF pays $400,000 peanuts, sets precedent, each year, defence budget needs addition 4 million, can get 2 Bargain Hens, not a good bargain for regime.

2. Every time SMRT screws up big time, Ruler Loong must change transport minion. Then if SAF screw up, then you be forcing Ruler Loong or in future Heng $wee $wee to ask Defence Minion Bargain Hen to do Nihon style bow and apologise, then Bargain Hen will quit. Changing Defence Minion yearly will be bad image for regime.

This grieving mother just wanted MINDEF to right the wrong. Instead MINDEF pretended that the death of her son is a non-event. So, mother goes to court to seek justice. But the court sided with MINDEF and open a can of worms ...now we know that MINDEF has NO contractual obligation to look after our soldiers. Would you like to serve a country that treats you like dirt?

GoldenDragon · Mar 9, 2016

mojito said:
Comedy gold, sir. Thank you. Astute observations as always!

Yup, looking forward to more postings from him. This is what sbf is all about.

Onitsuka · Mar 9, 2016

mscitw said:
Yet the coroner colluded with Mindef to downplay the issue by applying Quantum Mechanics theory that the acute allergic reaction was “unlikely to have been predicted”.

Mindef need not have to come up with the excuse that the allergic reaction was "unlikely to have been predicted". Even if it could have been protected, the unjust law would still exonerate Mindef and the defendants from liability. They simply cannot be sued, period.

Whether the allergic reaction was likely or unlikely to have been predicted, the Common Law says you take your victim as you find him. This is the famous "eggshell skull rule".

This rule holds that a tortfeasor is liable for all consequences resulting from his or her tortious (usually negligent) activities leading to an injury to another person, even if the victim suffers an unusually high level of damage (e.g. due to a pre-existing vulnerability or medical condition). The term implies that if a person had a skull as delicate as that of the shell of an egg, and a tortfeasor who was unaware of the condition injured that person's head, causing the skull unexpectedly to break, the defendant would be held liable for all damages resulting from the wrongful contact, even if the tortfeasor did not intend to cause such a severe injury.

So don't try to soften the impact of unjust law by suggesting that there was no negligence. The negligence was obvious for all to see, it's the unjust law that barred the victim from suing the assailants.

winnipegjets · Mar 9, 2016

Onitsuka said:
Mindef need not have to come up with the excuse that the allergic reaction was "unlikely to have been predicted". Even if it could have been protected, the unjust law would still exonerate Mindef and the defendants from liability. They simply cannot be sued, period.

Whether the allergic reaction was likely or unlikely to have been predicted, the Common Law says you take your victim as you find him. This is the famous "eggshell skull rule".

This rule holds that a tortfeasor is liable for all consequences resulting from his or her tortious (usually negligent) activities leading to an injury to another person, even if the victim suffers an unusually high level of damage (e.g. due to a pre-existing vulnerability or medical condition). The term implies that if a person had a skull as delicate as that of the shell of an egg, and a tortfeasor who was unaware of the condition injured that person's head, causing the skull unexpectedly to break, the defendant would be held liable for all damages resulting from the wrongful contact, even if the tortfeasor did not intend to cause such a severe injury.

So don't try to soften the impact of unjust law by suggesting that there was no negligence. The negligence was obvious for all to see, it's the unjust law that barred the victim from suing the assailants.

Sinkee parents should learn from the Taiwanese. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23561244

mojito · Mar 9, 2016

Onitsuka said:
Mindef need not have to come up with the excuse that the allergic reaction was "unlikely to have been predicted". Even if it could have been protected, the unjust law would still exonerate Mindef and the defendants from liability. They simply cannot be sued, period.

Whether the allergic reaction was likely or unlikely to have been predicted, the Common Law says you take your victim as you find him. This is the famous "eggshell skull rule".

This rule holds that a tortfeasor is liable for all consequences resulting from his or her tortious (usually negligent) activities leading to an injury to another person, even if the victim suffers an unusually high level of damage (e.g. due to a pre-existing vulnerability or medical condition). The term implies that if a person had a skull as delicate as that of the shell of an egg, and a tortfeasor who was unaware of the condition injured that person's head, causing the skull unexpectedly to break, the defendant would be held liable for all damages resulting from the wrongful contact, even if the tortfeasor did not intend to cause such a severe injury.

So don't try to soften the impact of unjust law by suggesting that there was no negligence. The negligence was obvious for all to see, it's the unjust law that barred the victim from suing the assailants.

6 smoke grenades didn't just fall out from his pocket; he tossed them. Obviously he knew what he was doing. So how can you say he is negligent in his duties? :confused:

GoldenDragon · Mar 9, 2016

Onitsuka said:
Mindef need not have to come up with the excuse that the allergic reaction was "unlikely to have been predicted". Even if it could have been protected, the unjust law would still exonerate Mindef and the defendants from liability. They simply cannot be sued, period.

Whether the allergic reaction was likely or unlikely to have been predicted, the Common Law says you take your victim as you find him. This is the famous "eggshell skull rule".

This rule holds that a tortfeasor is liable for all consequences resulting from his or her tortious (usually negligent)
activities leading to an injury to another person, even if the victim suffers an unusually high level of damage (e.g. due to a pre-existing vulnerability
or medical condition). The term implies that if a person had a skull as delicate as that of the shell of an egg, and a tortfeasor who was unaware of the condition injured that person's head, causing the skull unexpectedly to break, the defendant would be held liable for all damages resulting from the wrongful contact, even if the tortfeasor did not intend to cause such a severe injury.

i am impressed with your knowledge. more posts from you please. wow! lots of talent in sbf - i mean the right type of talent and not the kuku type like ginfreely and some others.

frenchbriefs · Mar 9, 2016

Onitsuka said:
Mindef need not have to come up with the excuse that the allergic reaction was "unlikely to have been predicted". Even if it could have been protected, the unjust law would still exonerate Mindef and the defendants from liability. They simply cannot be sued, period.

Whether the allergic reaction was likely or unlikely to have been predicted, the Common Law says you take your victim as you find him. This is the famous "eggshell skull rule".

This rule holds that a tortfeasor is liable for all consequences resulting from his or her tortious (usually negligent) activities leading to an injury to another person, even if the victim suffers an unusually high level of damage (e.g. due to a pre-existing vulnerability or medical condition). The term implies that if a person had a skull as delicate as that of the shell of an egg, and a tortfeasor who was unaware of the condition injured that person's head, causing the skull unexpectedly to break, the defendant would be held liable for all damages resulting from the wrongful contact, even if the tortfeasor did not intend to cause such a severe injury.

So don't try to soften the impact of unjust law by suggesting that there was no negligence. The negligence was obvious for all to see, it's the unjust law that barred the victim from suing the assailants.

once broken considered sold?is there such a legal rule?

frenchbriefs · Mar 9, 2016

mscitw said:
1a. It was the late Gecko Kua and many clever legal minions and donkeys who inserted and enhanced Section 14 to protect the regime from tort if their lackeys cock up. All dictatorial regimes have unequal laws to oppress peasants. The Lee regime's legal laws and contracts are designed to screw peasants, anyway 69.9% voted for them, they deserve it. Only in Peasantpore.

1b. If Mdm Seah won civil suit, Najib and Ah Siong goes to jail, SAF pays $400,000 peanuts, sets precedent, each year, defence budget needs addition 4 million, can get 2 Bargain Hens, not a good bargain for regime.

2. Every time SMRT screws up big time, Ruler Loong must change transport minion. Then if SAF screw up, then you be forcing Ruler Loong or in future Heng $wee $wee to ask Defence Minion Bargain Hen to do Nihon style bow and apologise, then Bargain Hen will quit. Changing Defence Minion yearly will be bad image for regime.

3. Jack Arse Neo produces feel good movies for Mindef, it only take Pte Lee's case to expose Mindef's scams. Peasants need to open their eyes 'big big'.

dont forget the removal of the jury,the less peasants know about the legal system the better.

mojito · Mar 9, 2016

Onitsuka said:
So don't try to soften the impact of unjust law by suggesting that there was no negligence. The negligence was obvious for all to see, it's the unjust law that barred the victim from suing the assailants.

Why you no hew me? Ok last post for tonight. What you just brought up simply affirms we have some good judgements based on Commonwealth precedents but we have judges who are not partial to a quick promotion. :cool:

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