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PM Lee asks for 'very high award of damages' in defamation case against Roy Ngerng
By Kyle Malinda
POSTED: 01 Jul 2015 08:41 **UPDATED: 01 Jul 2015 23:32

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SINGAPORE: "I am sorry. I had no intent to defame you," defendant Roy Ngerng Yi Ling told plaintiff Lee Hsien Loong*in the Supreme Court on Wednesday (Jul 1), at the start of a three-day hearing to assess damages the blogger has to pay after he was found to have defamed the Prime Minster.

"I'm so sincere, I've apologised to you so many times that I've lost count," Mr Ngerng added, saying that he had sent his apologies about seven to eight times.

But the apology was "not sincere", said Mr Lee. "The record contradicts that," he added, citing recent blog posts by Mr Ngerng. PM Lee also said that Mr Ngerng did not have "wholehearted acceptance of judgement", as the blogger had accepted the ruling, but insisted he did not intend to defame.

"All*I wanted was one apology and a follow-through. You went on to do other things. Your conduct shows that you have no intention of closing the matter properly," said PM Lee, who took the stand for about six hours for cross-examination by Mr Ngerng.

The blogger was unrepresented in court on Wednesday, having discharged his lawyer last week. When he questioned the Prime Minister on whether the facts cited in the offending blog post were true, Mr Lee answered: "The quotes are factual but the article on your blog is not."*

"We're not here to play games. There's no point going through it again other than to aggravate damages," Mr Lee said when Mr Ngerng went through the blog post in question.

However, Supreme Court Justice Lee Seiu Kin permitted the line of questioning, allowing Mr Ngerng's bid to prove that he did not display malice with the blogpost –*a factor that the court said could be aggravating in deciding costs for damages. Mr Ngerng later explained that his intent to clarify the facts does not negate the defamatory effect his blogpost had.

OFFER TO SETTLE REJECTED

The court heard that on May 30, Mr Ngerng had offered to settle the damages for a sum of S$10,000. However, this was rejected by PM Lee as "derisory", due to a series of posts the blogger had published recently claiming he was being persecuted by Mr Lee and the Singapore judiciary.

Mr Ngerng later said it was the best he could offer given his financial situation, which Justice Lee acknowledged. However, PM Lee said that for Mr Ngerng to cast doubt on the judicial system meant the blogger was "not serious" about his apology.

"From the very first, the defendant set out to wound. He knowingly and maliciously published a false and vicious libel against the plaintiff to inflict maximum injury. He then cynically capitalised on, and continues to exploit, that libel and the ensuing lawsuit to promote himself as a champion of free speech," said lawyers acting on behalf on Mr Lee in their opening statement.

"He would say one thing but do another: He publicly apologised for the libel but he continued to defame the plaintff; he undertook not to repeat the libel but broke his promise; and he claims that he is sincere about wanting to resolve matters but he continues to aggravate this injury."

The Prime Minister also pointed out that even though Mr Ngerng published an apology, he acted inconsistently by publishing a YouTube video saying he*was “disappointed that the Prime Minister has chosen to use the law against an ordinary citizen like [him] who believe[d] in speaking up for what is right in Singapore”. This was his way of implying that the defamatory allegation was “the truth”, Mr Lee said.

The Prime Minister stated that he had conveyed to Mr Ngerng that he would not claim aggravated damages if he removed the YouTube video, but instead of doing so, the blogger turned its settings to "private" and made it available to some people. Even after his apologies, he also emailed members of the local and international media to point out where they could read about the libel.

Mr Ngerng had invited Mr Lee to a dialogue following his blog posts, but the Prime Minister rejected the offer. "After defamation has been committed, I don't think my answer is to have an open dialogue," said PM Lee. "In my view, I want the courts to settle the matter."



Mr Lee Hsien Loong arriving at the Supreme Court on Jul 1. (Photo: TODAY)
DETERMINING DAMAGES

In November 2014, Justice Lee issued a summary judgment that Mr Ngerng's posts on his blog The Heart Truths were considered to have given the impression that Mr Lee was misappropriating Central Provident Fund (CPF) monies.

In the opening statement, Mr Lee's lawyers from Drew & Napier said: "Such an allegation undermines the plaintiff's ability to lead the country, sustain the confidence of the electorate and discharge his functions as Prime Minister and Chairman of GIC. The defendant's allegations, unless challenged head-on, demolished in a court of law and met with a substantial award of damages, would seriously erode the plaintiff's reputation and moral authority."

The hearing was scheduled to assess the amount of damages to be paid by Mr Ngerng, after a summary judgment was filed by Mr Lee on Jul 11, 2014. A summary judgment is one that is issued without going to trial, as the judge agrees with the applicant that the defence has no grounds to support his or her case.


Mr Lee's lawyers called for "a very high award of damages", on account of Mr Ngerng's "malice and continuing attacks".

Previous awards in defamation cases involving top Government ministers in Singapore have ranged from S$100,000 to S$400,000, the lawyers noted, suggesting that a higher quantum should be awarded in this case.

"The court has consistently awarded substantial damages in cases where false allegations of criminal conduct were made in the office of Prime Minister," said Mr Lee's lawyers in their opening statement.

"The plaintiff respectfully asks that the court expresses, in the strongest terms, its indignation at the defendant's conduct. The case for a very high award of damages, including aggravated damages, is compelling."

FREEDOM OF SPEECH VS DEFAMATION LAWS

Justice Lee had previously noted that the constitutional right to freedom of speech is restricted by defamation laws, citing earlier cases in a similar vein, such as in the legal disputes between late opposition politician Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam and former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew.

Mr Ngerng was ordered to pay Mr Lee S$29,000 for legal fees and related expenses that were borne leading up to the application for the summary judgment.

The Prime Minister’s press secretary Chang Li Lin had earlier told media that Mr Lee "stands ready to be cross-examined, a position he has earlier communicated to the court".

The blogger, a former healthcare programme coordinator at Tan Tock Seng Hospital, had written a blogpost last May comparing the Prime Minister's usage of CPF monies to the City Harvest Church leaders' alleged misuse of church funds. In his blog, he charged that Mr Lee did so via the Government’s investment arms, Temasek Holdings and GIC.

Mr Ngerng was ordered by the court to no longer publish any assertions that Mr Lee was misappropriating CPF monies. The blogger later wrote in a blogpost that although the injunction was in place, he would continue to speak up for CPF and other issues.

The blogger's application for a Queen's Counsel to take on his case was also rejected by the High Court on Jun 11, after Justice Steven Chong said that the appointed QC had no expertise in Singapore-specific defamation issues. Mr Ngerng was ordered to pay costs of S$6,000 for the dismissed application.

The hearing on Wednesday was adjourned till 10am on Thursday. Speaking to the media after the day's proceedings wrapped, Mr Ngerng said to the media:*"I accept the judgment that the statement was defamatory. On hindsight I would not make the same statement".
- CNA/cy
 

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See what a talent Ordinary Roy is ...he could cross-examined the PM, supposedly the brightest in peesai and come out ahead.

So PM doesn't think the apology is sincere ...well, it is up to the judge to decide. Hopefully, this judge has some guts.

LHL's definition of sincere apology is the Ordinary Roy says and does nothing. How is that possible?

The issue is whether Ordinary Roy intended to defame LHL. It wasn't the intent but the expensive lawyers of LHL are trying to frame it as such.

This question has yet to be answered ...is the taxpayers paying LHL's legal bills because he claims that he is suing in his capacity as PM. If the taxpayers are paying, then the question is why does he need to use expensive private lawyers? Why can't the Attorney General Office handle this like they did for MINDEF?
 

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Highest paid PM anywhere spends 6 hours wasting your money. How much is that worth?
Motherfucking lee hsien loong cancer faster relapse.....
 

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Loong demands a skyhigh sum which he would like in the past CSJ CSC SDP cases $donate$ to NKF or Commchest. But his fucking purposes politically is to deprive so called supporters to bail Roy out by donations, when figure reaches beyond what you can donate.


He is FINANCIALLY driving politics. Deprive huis opponets from politics via $$$$$$$.

Understand?
 

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See what a talent Ordinary Roy is ...he could cross-examined the PM, supposedly the brightest in peesai and come out ahead.

So PM doesn't think the apology is sincere ...well, it is up to the judge to decide. Hopefully, this judge has some guts.

LHL's definition of sincere apology is the Ordinary Roy says and does nothing. How is that possible?

The issue is whether Ordinary Roy intended to defame LHL. It wasn't the intent but the expensive lawyers of LHL are trying to frame it as such.

This question has yet to be answered ...is the taxpayers paying LHL's legal bills because he claims that he is suing in his capacity as PM. If the taxpayers are paying, then the question is why does he need to use expensive private lawyers? Why can't the Attorney General Office handle this like they did for MINDEF?

Even if the MF uses "his" money, it is still ultimately taxpayer's money because the farker is employed in public office which is funded by taxpayers. Where you think he gets his "pay" from? Heaven? Who upkeeps him and his "royal family"? God? In a democracy, the PM serves the people not the other way around.
 

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Even if the MF uses "his" money, it is still ultimately taxpayer's money because the farker is employed in public office which is funded by taxpayers. Where you think he gets his "pay" from? Heaven? Who upkeeps him and his "royal family"? God? In a democracy, the PM serves the people not the other way around.

so who are the stupid one who vote him in the govt???

A PM suing the citizen he should be serving..what a joke..

what wrong did Roy do? Whatever he has posted are all truth.
 

Narong Wongwan

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To make comparison of these two, son and father, i have to write it this way...

The father is "something" while his son is SHIT :biggrin:

The father was also shit.....dun forget his suing ways.....
Just that back then most of us did not know how shit smells like and were hookwinked
 

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How about 8 billion dollars? Here's a leegal tender note for compensating Ah Loong's sullied reputation.

8 billion. Count the zeroes.


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Knn gong so much jiao wei for fuck? :rolleyes: Same as cigarettes price hike, citing health concerns but it is to fatten their coffers.

PM Lee's lawyers seek 'very high' damages in defamation case against Roy Ngerng

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Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong arriving at court. Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong arriving at court.ST PHOTO: WONG KWAI CHOW

Published Jul 1, 2015, 2:33 pm SGT
Tham Yuen-C
Assistant Political Editor

SINGAPORE - The lawyers of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong have asked the High Court for a very high award of damages in the defamation case against blogger Roy Ngerng, saying that Mr Ngerng's actions have been deeply and intensely malicious.

Mr Ngerng also remains determined to damage Mr Lee's reputation, the lawyers added in an opening statement submitted to the court on Wednesday, at the start of a three-day hearing.

Justice Lee Seiu Kin had ruled last November that Mr Ngerng, 34, defamed PM Lee in a blog post on his blog The Heart Truths on May 15 last year by suggesting the Prime Minister misappropriated Central Provident Fund (CPF) savings.

This week's hearing is to to assess the amount of damages Mr Ngerng has to pay Mr Lee.

Mr Lee's lawyers noted that previous awards in defamation cases involving top government ministers ranged from $100,000 to $400,000, and argued that a higher quantum should be awarded in this case given, among others, the extensive republication of the libel, Mr Ngerng's egregious conduct, and his malice and continuing attacks against Mr Lee.

"From the very first, the defendant set out to wound," PM Lee's lawyers said of Mr Ngerng and his initial blog post.

"He knowingly and maliciously published a false and vicious libel against the plaintiff to inflict maximum injury. He then cynically capitalised on, and continues to exploit, that libel and the ensuing lawsuit to promote himself as a champion of free speech."

In the process, Mr Ngerng has misled Singaporeans, Mr Lee and even his own lawyers, by apologising and taking down the defamatory statements, then posting them online again, the statement said.

He undertook not to repeat the libel but broke his promise, and claims he is sincere about wanting to resolve matters but continues to aggravate the injury, it added.

In his post, Mr Ngerng juxtaposed a Channel NewsAsia chart detailing the relationship among City Harvest Church (CHC) leaders, against his own chart of the purported ties between the CPF and PM Lee and sovereign wealth fund GIC.

Six current and former CHC leaders are facing prosecution for the alleged misuse of $50 million in church funds.

After receiving a letter of demand, Mr Ngerng had removed the blog and posted an apology. But he later sent the blog post to the media and repeated his defamatory allegations in other online articles and interviews.

Said Mr Lee's lawyers: "This case stands out for the depth and intensity of the defendant's malice toward the plaintiff and his resolve to damage the plaintiff's reputation."

The lawyers cited previous defamation cases to argue that allegations of corruption and criminal conduct "are grave charges", especially if made against the Prime Minister of a country.

They further said that Mr Lee's "life, reputation and ability to lead Singaporeans and GIC are all founded on his unflinching fidelity to integrity".

"It is therefore an extremely serious matter for the defendant to accuse the plaintiff of criminally misappropriating the monies paid by Singaporeans to the CPF," they said.

"Such an allegation undermines the plaintiff's ability to lead the country, sustain the confidence of the electorate and to discharge his functions as Prime Minister and chairman of GIC."

In addition to making the defamatory statements, Mr Ngerng had sought to rally people to his cause, by promising to speak the truth and to speak up for them, the lawyers added.

He had also jumped at the opportunity to use the ensuing lawsuit to promote himself, and advance his political agenda, they said.

For instance, Mr Ngerng had posted on his blog the entire letter of demand sent to him by Mr Lee's lawyers, to attract more attention, the lawyers said. This was despite knowing that the letter had described the offending words and images he was asked to take down.

The lawyers said: "If the defendant's actions have proved anything, it is that he harbours a deep seated hatred of the plaintiff. That is the only explanation for the venom in his continuing attacks and his relentless aggravation."

They urged the court to "express, in strongest terms, its indignation" at Mr Ngerng's conduct.

"The case for a very high award of damages, including aggravated damages, is compelling," they added.



 

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  • (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.

    • informal
      destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.




 

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How come when PM Lee say sorry we have to take his word for it and not ask follow up questions,but when Roy say sorry its unsincere?is it because Roy broke his heart?

 

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kar·ma
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noun: karma

  • (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.

    • informal
      destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.





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