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The POLITICAL PERSECUTION Of Amos Is FUCKING CRUEL
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Source: asia Sentinel
Posted on June 29, 2015 By Our Correspondent Headline, Politics, Singapore
Here come de judge…
Why does the Singapore government fear freedom?
Singapore this week is in the middle of two controversial cases that demonstrate that despite the March 22 passing of Lee Kuan Yew, the patriarch and founder of modern Singapore, the government has lost none of its appetite for using the legal system to bring down those it considers enemies.
One of the cases involves a 16-year-old who made an obscenity-filled eight-minute YouTube post insulting Lee Kuan Yew shortly after Lee’s death. The youth, Amos Yee Pang Sang, has been spending the past two weeks in a psychiatric ward to determine if he is autistic, a tactic that smacks of the old Soviet Union on its worst days. When he was brought to court for trial in May, he was handcuffed, had his legs shackled, and was wearing a prison-supplied t-shirt with “prisoner” emblazoned across the back.
Yee apparently was strapped to a bed in the prison’s medical facility for a day and a half after he expressed suicidal thoughts. On April 30, on his way to court, he was assaulted outside the courthouse by an assailant who punched him in the face, raising concerns about the authorities’ obligation to ensure Yee’s safety. Yee has also been subjected to a rash of threats of physical violence, which the authorities do not appear to have adequately investigated, according to Human Rights Watch.
Working for the clamp down
“Amos Yee’s conviction and jail time sends a clear message that Singapore is continuing on the path it has followed for decades – one which clamps down on dissent and freedom of expression. Amos Yee’s edgy criticism falls far short of the level required for criminal proceedings,” said Margaret John, the Malaysia-Singapore Coordinator for Amnesty International of Canada.
The second case involves a young blogger and activist named Roy Ngerng Yi Ling, who faces a Supreme Court hearing beginning July 1 to determine how much money he will have to pay Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong after being found guilty last October of defaming the premier in a blog post questioning the operations of Singapore’s Central Provident Fund. Ngerng and others expect that it will be a lot.
Neither Ngerng nor Lee could be considered a threat to the Singapore government. Ngerng, a gay rights activist, lives with his father, a noodle seller, and his mother, a retired factory worker, in a Housing Development Board flat. Yee lives with his parents. His mother is a mathematics teacher. Nor are they alone. In May, an independent news website, The Real Singapore, was shut down and its editors, Singaporean Yang Kaiheng and his Australian girlfriend Ai Takagi, with seven counts of sedition and other charges for allegedly what the government called printing racially inflammatory and inaccurate stories. Local Singaporeans, however, told Asia Sentinel that the stories were hardly inflammatory enough to warrant the charges and potential fines up to S$200,000 [US$150,330] and speculated that the authorities were setting out to make an example of the website.
Nonetheless, the full weight of the island republic’s legal system has fallen on all three. Ngerng, a slight, bespectacled Chinese who blogs at thehearttruths.com, became the first blogger in Singapore to be sued under laws passed last year after he drew links between Lee’s leadership of the sovereign wealth fund and a megachurch’s ongoing trial for alleged misappropriation of funds. First Ngerng sought to mollify the prime minister by offering to pay S$5,000 [US$3,699] in settlement, which Lee rejected as derisory. Ngerng then cloud-funded S$70,000 or more to pay off his libel lawsuit from ordinary Singaporeans using social media. As expected, he lost in the Singapore court. In addition to the S$70,000 he received from his crowdfunding effort, he had to pay another S$29,000 in legal fees to the prime minister.
“When the damages come, it is likely that I would be made bankrupt,” Ngerng told the Committee to Protect Journalists. “For me, it has been an enduring time of ups and downs, sometimes of hope and sometimes of dismay, at why your writing does not garner and harness the effect that it has [as in other places]. I do at times feel helpless and lost as to what I should do.”
These are threats?
The case against Amos Yee has drawn a good deal more adverse publicity, with Human Rights Watch demanding that authorities exonerate the youth, who faces up to three years in prison or 18 months in a juvenile detention center for uploading the allegedly obscene image and making remarks deemed “insulting to religion.”
Whether he is autistic seems to be rather questionable, since he scored an starred A for mathematics and science and an A in English and Chinese in his primary school leaving exam, then completed his O levels with “good results,” the equivalent of a US high school diploma, but chose not to go on to university because, according to the Straits Times, he wanted to pursue a career in film and videos.
“Nothing that Amos Yee said or posted should ever have been considered criminal – much less merit incarceration,” said Phil Robertson, the Bangkok-based deputy Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “The dismal state of Singapore’s respect for free expression can be seen in the decision to impose the criminal justice system on outspoken 16-year-olds.”
The government has gone to extraordinary lengths to restrict Yee’s free expression rights, Human Rights Watch said. Bail conditions set on March 31 included a gag order that Yee not post any content or comments online while his case was ongoing. After he posted a note seeking donations to support his cause, as Ngerng did earlier, the court immediately called him for violating his bail, and jailed him from April 17-21. On April 29, he again posted content online, and the next day was jailed at Changi Prison until his trial.
Lighten up
Under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, whose provisions are widely recognized as customary international law, Robertson said, “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes the freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media.” As a person under 18, Yee is protected by the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which Singapore ratified in 1995. The convention guarantees children’s rights to freedom of expression.
In the Yee case, Singapore authorities have violated other rights protected under the Child Rights Convention, Human Rights Watch said. Under the convention, children are only to be detained “as a measure of last resort and for the shortest appropriate period of time.” Moreover, in all government actions concerning children, “the best interests of the child shall be the primary consideration.”
“Any further incarceration of Yee will just compound the damage to Singapore’s already poor reputation on basic freedoms,” Robertson said. “Nothing short of Yee’s release and the dismissal of all charges will vindicate Singapore’s justice system.”
“While bloggers like Yee may have thought that Lee Kuan Yew’s death in March could present an opportunity for the country to turn over a new leaf, it appears little has changed,” said the Committee to Protect Journalists.
Posted on June 29, 2015 By Our Correspondent Headline, Politics, Singapore
Here come de judge…
Why does the Singapore government fear freedom?
Singapore this week is in the middle of two controversial cases that demonstrate that despite the March 22 passing of Lee Kuan Yew, the patriarch and founder of modern Singapore, the government has lost none of its appetite for using the legal system to bring down those it considers enemies.
One of the cases involves a 16-year-old who made an obscenity-filled eight-minute YouTube post insulting Lee Kuan Yew shortly after Lee’s death. The youth, Amos Yee Pang Sang, has been spending the past two weeks in a psychiatric ward to determine if he is autistic, a tactic that smacks of the old Soviet Union on its worst days. When he was brought to court for trial in May, he was handcuffed, had his legs shackled, and was wearing a prison-supplied t-shirt with “prisoner” emblazoned across the back.
Yee apparently was strapped to a bed in the prison’s medical facility for a day and a half after he expressed suicidal thoughts. On April 30, on his way to court, he was assaulted outside the courthouse by an assailant who punched him in the face, raising concerns about the authorities’ obligation to ensure Yee’s safety. Yee has also been subjected to a rash of threats of physical violence, which the authorities do not appear to have adequately investigated, according to Human Rights Watch.
Working for the clamp down
“Amos Yee’s conviction and jail time sends a clear message that Singapore is continuing on the path it has followed for decades – one which clamps down on dissent and freedom of expression. Amos Yee’s edgy criticism falls far short of the level required for criminal proceedings,” said Margaret John, the Malaysia-Singapore Coordinator for Amnesty International of Canada.
The second case involves a young blogger and activist named Roy Ngerng Yi Ling, who faces a Supreme Court hearing beginning July 1 to determine how much money he will have to pay Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong after being found guilty last October of defaming the premier in a blog post questioning the operations of Singapore’s Central Provident Fund. Ngerng and others expect that it will be a lot.
Neither Ngerng nor Lee could be considered a threat to the Singapore government. Ngerng, a gay rights activist, lives with his father, a noodle seller, and his mother, a retired factory worker, in a Housing Development Board flat. Yee lives with his parents. His mother is a mathematics teacher. Nor are they alone. In May, an independent news website, The Real Singapore, was shut down and its editors, Singaporean Yang Kaiheng and his Australian girlfriend Ai Takagi, with seven counts of sedition and other charges for allegedly what the government called printing racially inflammatory and inaccurate stories. Local Singaporeans, however, told Asia Sentinel that the stories were hardly inflammatory enough to warrant the charges and potential fines up to S$200,000 [US$150,330] and speculated that the authorities were setting out to make an example of the website.
Nonetheless, the full weight of the island republic’s legal system has fallen on all three. Ngerng, a slight, bespectacled Chinese who blogs at thehearttruths.com, became the first blogger in Singapore to be sued under laws passed last year after he drew links between Lee’s leadership of the sovereign wealth fund and a megachurch’s ongoing trial for alleged misappropriation of funds. First Ngerng sought to mollify the prime minister by offering to pay S$5,000 [US$3,699] in settlement, which Lee rejected as derisory. Ngerng then cloud-funded S$70,000 or more to pay off his libel lawsuit from ordinary Singaporeans using social media. As expected, he lost in the Singapore court. In addition to the S$70,000 he received from his crowdfunding effort, he had to pay another S$29,000 in legal fees to the prime minister.
“When the damages come, it is likely that I would be made bankrupt,” Ngerng told the Committee to Protect Journalists. “For me, it has been an enduring time of ups and downs, sometimes of hope and sometimes of dismay, at why your writing does not garner and harness the effect that it has [as in other places]. I do at times feel helpless and lost as to what I should do.”
These are threats?
The case against Amos Yee has drawn a good deal more adverse publicity, with Human Rights Watch demanding that authorities exonerate the youth, who faces up to three years in prison or 18 months in a juvenile detention center for uploading the allegedly obscene image and making remarks deemed “insulting to religion.”
Whether he is autistic seems to be rather questionable, since he scored an starred A for mathematics and science and an A in English and Chinese in his primary school leaving exam, then completed his O levels with “good results,” the equivalent of a US high school diploma, but chose not to go on to university because, according to the Straits Times, he wanted to pursue a career in film and videos.
“Nothing that Amos Yee said or posted should ever have been considered criminal – much less merit incarceration,” said Phil Robertson, the Bangkok-based deputy Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “The dismal state of Singapore’s respect for free expression can be seen in the decision to impose the criminal justice system on outspoken 16-year-olds.”
The government has gone to extraordinary lengths to restrict Yee’s free expression rights, Human Rights Watch said. Bail conditions set on March 31 included a gag order that Yee not post any content or comments online while his case was ongoing. After he posted a note seeking donations to support his cause, as Ngerng did earlier, the court immediately called him for violating his bail, and jailed him from April 17-21. On April 29, he again posted content online, and the next day was jailed at Changi Prison until his trial.
Lighten up
Under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, whose provisions are widely recognized as customary international law, Robertson said, “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes the freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media.” As a person under 18, Yee is protected by the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which Singapore ratified in 1995. The convention guarantees children’s rights to freedom of expression.
In the Yee case, Singapore authorities have violated other rights protected under the Child Rights Convention, Human Rights Watch said. Under the convention, children are only to be detained “as a measure of last resort and for the shortest appropriate period of time.” Moreover, in all government actions concerning children, “the best interests of the child shall be the primary consideration.”
“Any further incarceration of Yee will just compound the damage to Singapore’s already poor reputation on basic freedoms,” Robertson said. “Nothing short of Yee’s release and the dismissal of all charges will vindicate Singapore’s justice system.”
“While bloggers like Yee may have thought that Lee Kuan Yew’s death in March could present an opportunity for the country to turn over a new leaf, it appears little has changed,” said the Committee to Protect Journalists.
End of Article
Anyone in Sinkieland that rock the pot of gold that belongs to the Familee will be severely dealt with, young at 16 or old over 80, no one will be spared.
Vast majority of sinkies couldn't care less about Amos Yee, including die-hard supporters of the opposition. The only supporters Amos has are foreigners who don't really understand what sort of liar and attention-seeker Amos Yee really is. This shows that while sinkies are stupid, people from HK and Taiwan are more stupid. There might be some hope for sinkies.
You are hallucinating. The tide now has changed.
With such blatant abuse of the law to oppress a kid whose only offence is to post a Youtube video, alot of the people has now seen the light.
Especially the women folks who are mothers themselves.
I have a friend who enjoys poking fun at others and make others cry.
Some of the practical jokes he did on others were cruel. Made even grown ups cry. He says to me these people are wimps. Can't take jokes.
One day, a joke was played on him. Guess what ... he cried. He said to me he was bullied... i asked him ... Why are you not a sportsman ? You can make fun of others , but you cannot take it when others are now making fun of you. He told me it was not the same... It was not fun at all.
Some of the practical jokes he did on others were cruel. Made even grown ups cry. He says to me these people are wimps. Can't take jokes.
One day, a joke was played on him. Guess what ... he cried. He said to me he was bullied... i asked him ... Why are you not a sportsman ? You can make fun of others , but you cannot take it when others are now making fun of you. He told me it was not the same... It was not fun at all.
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She can look after children well knowing that this twerp who insulted Vincent Law is not in prison for a while.
Because your grass loots are still busy spreading propaganda on your ah gong's achievements on social medias?
LKY musical - KNN disgusting
I was staying at Toa Payoh in the 80s and remembered a Gangster who always pick fight with anyone smaller than him, he use to wack the smaller guys like no tomorrow. Than one day he met the wrong smaller guy who was prepared, the smaller guy took out a bearing scaper and poke the Gangster in the stomach, a lesson well taught to the bully never to take on a person just bcos he is small in size.
Your grassroot antenna doesn't work lah; that's why you are reading the ground wrongly. Too much of waygu beef and lamb? Don't identify yourself as PA executive okay as there is a lynch mob waiting to cut you up for bbq. You ate their meat, they are going to eat you up.
have you die hard "I hate Vincent Law" supporters asked the UN to blockade Singapore yet? Sanctions? Bombing?
when you make fun of someone who's trying to help you, you deserve what you get.
There was a guy in this forum who used to be like that. Got exposed and had to retire the bullying moniker(s). Now using various monikers to whine and bitch. 
There is two sides to a story. Why take only one side of the story as the truth?
Source: The Online Citizen
2 groups in M’sia and Hong Kong to call for Amos Yee’s release
JUNE 30, 2015 BY ANDREW LOH IN NEWS · 20 COMMENTS
Amos Yee surrounded by media when he left state court. Photo – Straits Times.
Two events are being scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday in Malaysia and in Hong Kong in support of Singapore teenager, Amos Yee.
Civil society groups in Penang, Malaysia, are organising a rally in Penang Square on Wednesday, 1 July, at 6pm “to remind that Singapore is a party to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC).”
“In conjunction of International Day in Support of Victims of Torture, NGOs around the world organised rally to protest against the continued detention of Amos Yee,” the group said on its Facebook page.
The group says it “hopes] the Singapore authorities can respect the regulations of the CRC and release Amos Yee immediately.”
Amos Yee is currently being held, by order of the court, in the Institute of Mental Health (IMH), Singapore, for assessment to determine if he is suitable to be issued a Mandatory Treatment Order (MTO).
He is being held for two weeks there.
The 16-year old had just completed a three-week remand at Changi Prison when he was ordered to the IMH.
During those three weeks, he was assessed for suitability for reformative training (RTC). The psychiatrist who did the review, Dr Munidasa Winslow, concluded that Amos Yee was mentally and physically suitable for RTC, but he also said that the young boy may have autistic spectrum disorder (ASD).
The court then ordered the current assessment at the IMH to confirm this.
In total, Amos Yee has been held, and continues to be held, for more than 40 days in remand, although he has not yet been sentenced by the court for uploading a video on Youtube which the court said “wounded the religious feelings of Christians”.
The video, released on the funeral of Singapore’s former prime minister, Lee Kuan Yew, was critical of the latter, calling him “a horrible person”, and compared him to the Christian religious icon, Jesus Christ.
However, there have been no official complaints or statements from any Christian organisations in Singapore expressing offence at the video.
Instead, a Christian had started an online petition which said that they were “not offended by Amos Yee’s statements”. That peititon has garnered more than 4,500 signatures so far. (See here.)
Another petition calling for the release of Amos Yee has also attracted almost 4,000 signatures. (See here.)
In another show of support from the international community, the Hong Kong University Students’ Union (HKUSU) is organising a petition “to demand the Singaporean government to release Amos Yee and stop any sentence due to one’s speech.”
Posting on its Facebook page, it noted that the teen is being held at the IMH.
HKUSU said, “Any act of trampling human rights and manipulating the freedom of thought must be condemned.”
The petition is supported by 10 other students’ unions in Hong Kong.
In the past one week or so, several international organisations have spoken up and called for the release of Amos Yee. These included the United Nations, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International.
“While Amos himself has refused the option of probation, OHCHR appeals to the Singapore authorities to give special consideration to his juvenile status and ensure his treatment is consistent with the best interests of the child, the principle that lies at the heart of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which Singapore is a party,” the United Nations Human Rights Office for South-East Asia (OHCHR) said in a statement on 22 June.
Also, a protest was held in Taiwan on Friday in support for the teen, with protesters handing over a letter to an officer of the Singapore consulate there.
And a few days ago, prominent Hong Kong acitvist, James Hon, released a video to add his voice to the call for Amos Yee’s release.
Expressing disbelief at the way the teen is being treated, Mr Hon said, “The boy is only 16!”
“Please, please,” he said, referring to Singapore’s Prime Minister, who is also the son of the late Mr Lee, “do not follow your father’s footsteps. Do not become another horrible person.”
In Singapore, an event is being organised by the Community Action Network group on 5 July at Hong Lim Park to call for the Singapore Government to release Amo Yee. (See here.)
2 groups in M’sia and Hong Kong to call for Amos Yee’s release
JUNE 30, 2015 BY ANDREW LOH IN NEWS · 20 COMMENTS
Amos Yee surrounded by media when he left state court. Photo – Straits Times.
Two events are being scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday in Malaysia and in Hong Kong in support of Singapore teenager, Amos Yee.
Civil society groups in Penang, Malaysia, are organising a rally in Penang Square on Wednesday, 1 July, at 6pm “to remind that Singapore is a party to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC).”
“In conjunction of International Day in Support of Victims of Torture, NGOs around the world organised rally to protest against the continued detention of Amos Yee,” the group said on its Facebook page.
The group says it “hopes] the Singapore authorities can respect the regulations of the CRC and release Amos Yee immediately.”
Amos Yee is currently being held, by order of the court, in the Institute of Mental Health (IMH), Singapore, for assessment to determine if he is suitable to be issued a Mandatory Treatment Order (MTO).
He is being held for two weeks there.
The 16-year old had just completed a three-week remand at Changi Prison when he was ordered to the IMH.
During those three weeks, he was assessed for suitability for reformative training (RTC). The psychiatrist who did the review, Dr Munidasa Winslow, concluded that Amos Yee was mentally and physically suitable for RTC, but he also said that the young boy may have autistic spectrum disorder (ASD).
The court then ordered the current assessment at the IMH to confirm this.
In total, Amos Yee has been held, and continues to be held, for more than 40 days in remand, although he has not yet been sentenced by the court for uploading a video on Youtube which the court said “wounded the religious feelings of Christians”.
The video, released on the funeral of Singapore’s former prime minister, Lee Kuan Yew, was critical of the latter, calling him “a horrible person”, and compared him to the Christian religious icon, Jesus Christ.
However, there have been no official complaints or statements from any Christian organisations in Singapore expressing offence at the video.
Instead, a Christian had started an online petition which said that they were “not offended by Amos Yee’s statements”. That peititon has garnered more than 4,500 signatures so far. (See here.)
Another petition calling for the release of Amos Yee has also attracted almost 4,000 signatures. (See here.)
In another show of support from the international community, the Hong Kong University Students’ Union (HKUSU) is organising a petition “to demand the Singaporean government to release Amos Yee and stop any sentence due to one’s speech.”
Posting on its Facebook page, it noted that the teen is being held at the IMH.
HKUSU said, “Any act of trampling human rights and manipulating the freedom of thought must be condemned.”
The petition is supported by 10 other students’ unions in Hong Kong.
In the past one week or so, several international organisations have spoken up and called for the release of Amos Yee. These included the United Nations, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International.
“While Amos himself has refused the option of probation, OHCHR appeals to the Singapore authorities to give special consideration to his juvenile status and ensure his treatment is consistent with the best interests of the child, the principle that lies at the heart of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which Singapore is a party,” the United Nations Human Rights Office for South-East Asia (OHCHR) said in a statement on 22 June.
Also, a protest was held in Taiwan on Friday in support for the teen, with protesters handing over a letter to an officer of the Singapore consulate there.
And a few days ago, prominent Hong Kong acitvist, James Hon, released a video to add his voice to the call for Amos Yee’s release.
Expressing disbelief at the way the teen is being treated, Mr Hon said, “The boy is only 16!”
“Please, please,” he said, referring to Singapore’s Prime Minister, who is also the son of the late Mr Lee, “do not follow your father’s footsteps. Do not become another horrible person.”
In Singapore, an event is being organised by the Community Action Network group on 5 July at Hong Lim Park to call for the Singapore Government to release Amo Yee. (See here.)
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Funny that it's only those who have been indoctrinated with the pappy mentality (including some former scholars and civil servants in this forum) who don't get the crux of this issue. Those who have not been indoctrinated (including some foreigners) seem to get it readily.
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