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500 DBSS flat-buyers up in arms over finished product

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[h=1]500 DBSS flat-buyers up in arms over finished product[/h][h=2]TODAY reports: Damaged sanitary pipes and scratched floor tiles are among some of problems faced by residents at Trivelis.[/h]

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Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS) property Trivelis in Clementi. (Photo: TODAY/Low Weixin)








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SINGAPORE: His Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS) flat was supposed to be of a higher design quality than a regular public housing unit, but Mr Andy Tan told TODAY he found his three-room unit at Trivelis in Clementi a “total disappointment”.
Two sanitary pipes and a water heater, which were not depicted in the project’s showflats, were exposed and clearly visible in his kitchen, Mr Tan said. The living room floor tiles were scratched, and even after replacing a few of them, contractors were unable to polish out the scratches on the remaining tiles.
Mr Tan is among nearly 500 Trivelis residents who are up in arms over various problems with the development, such as shattered shower glass panels and narrow common corridors that are prone to flooding. Most of the residents were issued their keys in January.
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A group of residents, who come from almost half of the 888 units that make up the project, have formed a committee to present their concerns to the developer, EL Development (ELD), and other relevant authorities.
In a circular to residents, which was received by TODAY on Wednesday (May 13), the committee listed other problems that residents have faced, such as kitchen cabinet dimensions that do not allow for a standard-sized oven to be fitted, pole-system wardrobes that lack shelves, defective stove knobs, stain-prone kitchen countertops and rusty dish racks.
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The committee has accused ELD of being slow to respond to their emails and refusing the team’s request to meet the managing director in person. “When the committee met (the managing director’s) representatives on April 12, (they said) ELD’s position remained that ELD’s designs and building works are cleared by the relevant authorities and (they) meet all minimum (requirements). It is, therefore, not obligated to entertain our requests for redress,” the committee said in its circular.
The committee, which has also been recognised as a pro tem Residents’ Committee since March, is organising a second dialogue session Friday evening to update Trivelis residents.
TODAY understands that Minister of State (Education and Communications and Information) and Member of Parliament for Holland-Bukit Timah GRC Sim Ann, who has been working closely with the committee, may be attending the session.
Invitations had also been sent out to ELD and representatives from other agencies, such as the Housing and Development Board and the Ministry of National Development.
When contacted by TODAY, an ELD spokesperson said they will not be attending the dialogue session as they prefer to address residents’ concerns individually. “We all know that (at) dialogue sessions … people can get emotional and heated up ... If any of the residents have strong opinions about these things, they are always free to email or call us, and we will address them individually.”
As for the complaints, the ELD spokesperson said the company is in the process of resolving some of the issues that are not restricted by technical or regulatory restrictions, such as replacing three shower screens that shattered due to impurities in the glass, and clearing chokes in drainage pipes to ease ponding in corridors.
However, there are some issues that the developer will be unable to resolve, such as the sanitary pipes that were initially planned to be placed at the air-conditioning ledge outside of the unit, as originally depicted in the showflats.
“However, during construction stage, our contractor and consultants informed us that due to technical and regulatory constraints, the sanitary pipes … have to be placed at the service yard (inside the unit),” said ELD.
Acknowledging that these constraints should have been factored in during the mock-up of its showflats, the ELD’s spokesperson said they had apologised to residents. They had also tried to rectify the situation by offering a smaller front-load washing machines at discounted prices for residents struggling with the tight space.


Read the original TODAY report here.


-TODAY/fs
 

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[h=1]500 DBSS flat-buyers up in arms over finished product[/h][h=2]TODAY reports: Damaged sanitary pipes and scratched floor tiles are among some of problems faced by residents at Trivelis.[/h]

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Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS) property Trivelis in Clementi. (Photo: TODAY/Low Weixin)








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SINGAPORE: His Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS) flat was supposed to be of a higher design quality than a regular public housing unit, but Mr Andy Tan told TODAY he found his three-room unit at Trivelis in Clementi a “total disappointment”.
Two sanitary pipes and a water heater, which were not depicted in the project’s showflats, were exposed and clearly visible in his kitchen, Mr Tan said. The living room floor tiles were scratched, and even after replacing a few of them, contractors were unable to polish out the scratches on the remaining tiles.
Mr Tan is among nearly 500 Trivelis residents who are up in arms over various problems with the development, such as shattered shower glass panels and narrow common corridors that are prone to flooding. Most of the residents were issued their keys in January.
shattered-shower-glass-data.jpg


A group of residents, who come from almost half of the 888 units that make up the project, have formed a committee to present their concerns to the developer, EL Development (ELD), and other relevant authorities.
In a circular to residents, which was received by TODAY on Wednesday (May 13), the committee listed other problems that residents have faced, such as kitchen cabinet dimensions that do not allow for a standard-sized oven to be fitted, pole-system wardrobes that lack shelves, defective stove knobs, stain-prone kitchen countertops and rusty dish racks.
rusty-lift-buttons-data.jpg


The committee has accused ELD of being slow to respond to their emails and refusing the team’s request to meet the managing director in person. “When the committee met (the managing director’s) representatives on April 12, (they said) ELD’s position remained that ELD’s designs and building works are cleared by the relevant authorities and (they) meet all minimum (requirements). It is, therefore, not obligated to entertain our requests for redress,” the committee said in its circular.
The committee, which has also been recognised as a pro tem Residents’ Committee since March, is organising a second dialogue session Friday evening to update Trivelis residents.
TODAY understands that Minister of State (Education and Communications and Information) and Member of Parliament for Holland-Bukit Timah GRC Sim Ann, who has been working closely with the committee, may be attending the session.
Invitations had also been sent out to ELD and representatives from other agencies, such as the Housing and Development Board and the Ministry of National Development.
When contacted by TODAY, an ELD spokesperson said they will not be attending the dialogue session as they prefer to address residents’ concerns individually. “We all know that (at) dialogue sessions … people can get emotional and heated up ... If any of the residents have strong opinions about these things, they are always free to email or call us, and we will address them individually.”
As for the complaints, the ELD spokesperson said the company is in the process of resolving some of the issues that are not restricted by technical or regulatory restrictions, such as replacing three shower screens that shattered due to impurities in the glass, and clearing chokes in drainage pipes to ease ponding in corridors.
However, there are some issues that the developer will be unable to resolve, such as the sanitary pipes that were initially planned to be placed at the air-conditioning ledge outside of the unit, as originally depicted in the showflats.
“However, during construction stage, our contractor and consultants informed us that due to technical and regulatory constraints, the sanitary pipes … have to be placed at the service yard (inside the unit),” said ELD.
Acknowledging that these constraints should have been factored in during the mock-up of its showflats, the ELD’s spokesperson said they had apologised to residents. They had also tried to rectify the situation by offering a smaller front-load washing machines at discounted prices for residents struggling with the tight space.


Read the original TODAY report here.


-TODAY/fs

Was thinking all these dbss scheme, is it still under the purview of hdb, or the developer. If it's only the developer, then it is hard to find recourse.

Especially if they cite regulatory and building constraint, the developer reserves the right to amend the design to comply.

The are screwed, if you ask me.
 

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This company developed Trivelis. :biggrin:


http://www.eldev.com.sg/

About Us
Corporate Profile

EL Development Pte Ltd first started as a small business unit within one of Singapore's leading builders, Evan Lim & Co. Pte Ltd. In late 2006, the company achieved success in its first high end residential project, Rhapsody on Mount Elizabeth, with the project selling out in merely 6 weeks. In early 2007, the company launched its first industrial development, Nordix, a multi-user strata titled terrace factories in Woodlands, and also achieved excellent results with the project sold out within a period of 2 months.

As the unit grew in stature, the management decided that there is a need to create a recognizable branding to focus on property segment. Hence, the business unit, EL Development Pte Ltd was officially incepted as a separate company and property arm of Evan Lim Group in June 2007.


Vision

To be the property developer of choice in the region with an emphasis on the delivery of high-quality products, complete with well thought-out and highly efficient designs.


Mission

To create optimised living and work spaces through constant innovation, efficient design, and delivery of high quality products so as to bring true value and satisfaction to our clients.


Core Values

Excellence. Leadership. Commitment. Competency. Creativity. Challenge-orientedness. Customer Satisfaction. Compassion.


HR Core Values

To be humane, treating every staff with respect and dignity while maximising their potential and caring for their personal well being and career development.
To support, nurture and develop the potential of each employee.
To improve each employee's morale and improve productivity.
To create a harmonious working relationship in the company, encouraging mutual trust and responsibility.
To promote staff loyalty, formulate and offer remuneration and conditions of service conducive to retain the best available staff.
 

laksaboy

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Oh, and the '5 minute walk' to the MRT station is a lie. You need 10-15 minutes at least. Trust me.

Drive, take the feeder bus or cycle.
 

Papsmearer

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Sinkies are truly brain washed by the PAP and pyschoed until they don't know if they are coming or going. Go to the developer and kpkb for fuck? They are the tenants. If their DBSS flats got problem, they go to the landlord what? Why go to the developer? Any tenant who rents a flat or condo in singapore will contact the owner or owner's agent if there are issues with their accomodation. In this case, these 500 fucktards should have marched down to HDB Head Office and complain there. The developer simply answered a bid put out by HDB, and the DBSS flats are build according to the design and plans put there by HDB. Its also the job of HDB to inspect the flats and hire QS to make sure the flats are build to spec. If they are not, again, its the HDB's fault. Also, there is usually some kind of warranty given to the owner of the flats by the developer. In this case, since the owner is HDB, they should still have gone to HDB to get them to exercise the warranty and make the developer rectify the problems. The fucking developer is doing a divide and conquer strategy, by claiming to address each individual unit's problems as they come up. Well, guess what, HDB has 10,000 times more clout with the developer then any individual unit holder has. If HDB wants to solve this issue quickly and efficiently they can easily lean on the developer to do it. Usually, HDB will withold some money from the developer for a set period of time to be used as leverage for the developer to rectify these problems. And in the worst case scenario, they can blacklist the developer in singapore. If he ever wants to do business again, he better buck up.

HDB is strangely silent on this..............once again and shows that they have once again taken bribes from the developer, and approved shoddy work not performed to spec. How else can you explain their passiveness in this situation? HDB should have set up a special section to enable all the unit holders to register and help them document the deficiencies in their units. This unit should then work with the developer to fix all the problems and inspect the completed work to make sure that its done right the second time. Instead HDB is hanging out the unit holders to dry. Your unit got problem, your taichee, not HDB's.

Pre-pay the fucking landlord for 99 years of rent and get no support at all? This is highest paid first world performance by a 3rd world govt?
 
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GOD IS MY DOG

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Oh, and the '5 minute walk' to the MRT station is a lie. You need 10-15 minutes at least. Trust me.

Drive, take the feeder bus or cycle.



5 min walk is true..............for those Olympic athletes...........anyway, good news..........i reckon opposition just gained 500 votes.............
 

JohnTan

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Don't worry. The grassroots will work with your MP and the government to resolve this issue. Lucky the WP not in charge. If not, the problem would be many times worse.
 

makapaaa

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60%: OK lah!

Sinkies are truly brain washed by the PAP and pyschoed until they don't know if they are coming or going. Go to the developer and kpkb for fuck? They are the tenants. If their DBSS flats got problem, they go to the landlord what? Why go to the developer? Any tenant who rents a flat or condo in singapore will contact the owner or owner's agent if there are issues with their accomodation. In this case, these 500 fucktards should have marched down to HDB Head Office and complain there. The developer simply answered a bid put out by HDB, and the DBSS flats are build according to the design and plans put there by HDB. Its also the job of HDB to inspect the flats and hire QS to make sure the flats are build to spec. If they are not, again, its the HDB's fault. Also, there is usually some kind of warranty given to the owner of the flats by the developer. In this case, since the owner is HDB, they should still have gone to HDB to get them to exercise the warranty and make the developer rectify the problems. The fucking developer is doing a divide and conquer strategy, by claiming to address each individual unit's problems as they come up. Well, guess what, HDB has 10,000 times more clout with the developer then any individual unit holder has. If HDB wants to solve this issue quickly and efficiently they can easily lean on the developer to do it. Usually, HDB will withold some money from the developer for a set period of time to be used as leverage for the developer to rectify these problems. And in the worst case scenario, they can blacklist the developer in singapore. If he ever wants to do business again, he better buck up.

HDB is strangely silent on this..............once again and shows that they have once again taken bribes from the developer, and approved shoddy work not performed to spec. How else can you explain their passiveness in this situation? HDB should have set up a special section to enable all the unit holders to register and help them document the deficiencies in their units. This unit should then work with the developer to fix all the problems and inspect the completed work to make sure that its done right the second time. Instead HDB is hanging out the unit holders to dry. Your unit got problem, your taichee, not HDB's.

Pre-pay the fucking landlord for 99 years of rent and get no support at all? This is highest paid first world performance by a 3rd world govt?
 

makapaaa

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Asset
No one ask yet?

Who did the 500 morons vote for?

60%: If we donch vote for the incumbent, scaly they my property value drop how? You responsible ah? *chey*

40%: Are you now and since then better off voting for them?

60%: KNN! You are causing me headache! Mai gar lee gong liao!

40%: *shake head*
 

winnipegjets

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ELD’s position remained that ELD’s designs and building works are cleared by the relevant authorities and (they) meet all minimum (requirements). It is, therefore, not obligated to entertain our requests for redress

This is PAP-speak indeed!
 

winnipegjets

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Asset
Don't worry. The grassroots will work with your MP and the government to resolve this issue. Lucky the WP not in charge. If not, the problem would be many times worse.

If the MP and grassroot were tackling this problem, it would not have made it to the news. You bunch of useless idiots!

If the WP was running the country, HDB would be whacking the developer inside out and making sure the end product was delivered as sold.
 

songsongjurong

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Loyal
nonchalant authority aint gonna upset developer for sure as they are pro business biased. HDB to buyers of slum grade cattle class pigeon shithole :"did we put a gun against your head to buy?"


such incident were rarity donkey years back...PAP tive any F?!they give no F!

HDB to slum dwellers :"compare to punggol shithouse,you should be thankful!now go suck thumbs peasants!!!"
 

virus

Alfrescian
Loyal
Don't worry. The grassroots will work with your MP and the government to resolve this issue. Lucky the WP not in charge. If not, the problem would be many times worse.

With glassloot leaders like NEO gim huah, residents will not only get a earful but another 2 tight slap.
Then the glassloot will work with their mp to set up offices and karaoke rooms to enjoy themselves with the MP and leave the residents more incense then ever. WP will never resort to such underhand tactics.
 

JohnTan

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Generous Asset
This is such a generous offer by the developer, who is under no legal or moral obligation to offer such a goodwill packages. The developer is doing this out of the kindness and love from the heart. I hope the residents would be grateful and vote for PAP. After all, the MP and grassroots leaders put in a lot of effort to resolve the demands of the residents.

SINGAPORE: The developer of the Trivelis Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS) flats at Clementi is considering offering a "goodwill package" to residents, said the estate's interim residents committee on Thursday (May 14).

This comes after close to 500 residents had complained about defects in their homes, with about 413 out of 888 units affected.
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While the committee said details of the package have not been confirmed, residents Channel NewsAsia spoke to said they hope for monetary compensation. About 200 residents attended a dialogue session on the issue on Thursday evening. The area's Member of Parliament, Sim Ann, was also present.

Among the complaints raised were rusty dish holders and the laundry area being too small to fit in standard sized washing machines.

Some residents told the media that sanitation pipes were fitted in the kitchen and left exposed. They were supposed to be fitted at the air-conditioning ledge outside the units as depicted in showflats. Some added that they found defects as soon as they moved into their homes.



During the dialogue session, some also asked about the recourse they can take while others questioned whether the Housing Development Board (HDB) would provide assistance on this issue.

Meanwhile, Ms Sim stressed that she is behind the residents and that offering the package would be a step in the "right direction".

"When it comes to issues within the units, my view is that defects must be rectified," she said. "At the same time, there are some issues which may or may not be considered as defects but which, nevertheless, have caused our residents quite a bit of heartache. And they have shared this with me. And I think our residents have a point."

She added that the committee has collated the residents' feedback and will be working closely with the developer to address them.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/trivelis-developer-may/1848234.html?cid=fbsg
 
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