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Recent PAP's Mistakes - Singapore's disgrace

uglyloser

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Loyal
I know the pap. To kick out a known evil is right

bro, the only sensible way out is to have true independence among all the important institutions so that no one entity becomes too powerful. The best example of this is the USA.

keeping the typical asian way of governance where power is concentrated in the hands of a few individuals, things will get fucked over and over again no matter who u vote in.

just look at Egypt, Thailand, etc.

Asians are generally more corrupt than westerners and do not care about integrity.
 

johnny333

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
I wish u well if u think the opposition parties are going to be angels.


You are making an assumption based on how badly PAP is behaving :biggrin:
To be fair it has taken 50 years for LKY to become emperor of Spore. His son is just as bad because he has never known what it is to be a "lesser mortal".

Simple minded Sporeans trusted him so they gave him the mandate. LKY has had 50+ years to consolidate his power by putting all his people into the key positions of power in Spore. Any future opposition may try to do the same but after their bad experience with LKY I doubt that they will be so trusting in the future.
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
bro, the only sensible way out is to have true independence among all the important institutions so that no one entity becomes too powerful. The best example of this is the USA.

keeping the typical asian way of governance where power is concentrated in the hands of a few individuals, things will get fucked over and over again no matter who u vote in.

just look at Egypt, Thailand, etc.

Asians are generally more corrupt than westerners and do not care about integrity.

Agree. State Institutions must be independent. That's not so in SG. Fault is the pap
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
You are making an assumption based on how badly PAP is behaving :biggrin:
To be fair it has taken 50 years for LKY to become emperor of Spore. His son is just as bad because he has never known what it is to be a "lesser mortal".

Simple minded Sporeans trusted him so they gave him the mandate. LKY has had 50+ years to consolidate his power by putting all his people into the key positions of power in Spore. Any future opposition may try to do the same but after their bad experience with LKY I doubt that they will be so trusting in the future.

Yes, yes, yes
 

freedalas

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Loyal
These are minor issues. All countries face similar problems periodically. The Swiss and HK bourses have suffered technical glitches in recent years too.


True, but Switzerland and HK don't pay their ministers astronomically out of this world salaries. But we do. And since we do, we expect much much higher standards than what we are experiencing now. The Old Fart had said if we want A standard governing, we must pay A standard salaries. We are paying A standard salaries but getting D or E grade governing.
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
True, but Switzerland and HK don't pay their ministers astronomically out of this world salaries. But we do. And since we do, we expect much much higher standards than what we are experiencing now. The Old Fart had said if we want A standard governing, we must pay A standard salaries. We are paying A standard salaries but getting D or E grade governing.

good points...
 

freedalas

Alfrescian
Loyal
Failure is the mother of success.

Sure.

When vandals first grattified our trains, SMRT vowed to use it as a lesson to overcome its security failure. But did that security failure brought success in rectifying the security gaps. NO!!! Another vandalism happened soon after. And following that, SMRT again declared to the whole world it will absolutely address all security issues. Was it successful? A 100% NO!!! It just happened again recently, the FOURTH time. And mind you, it was PAP very own MPs who hollered in parliament that such repeated security breaches will not do.

In PAP run Singapore, failure is not a mother of success; failure is the mother of further failures!
 

Papsmearer

Alfrescian (InfP) - Comp
Generous Asset
sinkies are so spoilt by excellent levels of service in sg for so long that 0.001% of downtime (compared to a 99.999% of uptime per year) causes sinkies to kpkb. no service in the world today can run on 100% uptime. :rolleyes:

Yes, sinkies so spoilt by decades of great football played on that grass pitch at the old National Stadium. So spoilt that when the new grass pitch at the new $1.3 billion stadium looks like desert sand and is unplayable, their expectation is unrealistically high? They are unreasonable to expect a good football game played on great grass? U are such a retard.
 
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