Putin's deadly war machine production line PRC bought such a line from him

nkfnkfnkf said:

5 pages of pics from a Russian SU-30 production line. Chinese purchased one such production line from Putin.

The combat performance specifications of SU-30 far exceeds Obama's ultra expensive F-22 n F-35. Russian war machines are always cheap and effective.

Philosophically, American makes expensive machines aiming to keep their own ass alive in wars. Russian make cheap effective killing machines aimed to effectively kill instead of trying to just stay alive.


Obama will get a great taste of death toll when these machines spins to work.


http://englishrussia.com/2014/09/30/awesome-production-of-su-30/

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eatshitndie said:

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eatshitndie said:

u.s. learned to value, protect and recover their pilots (after being shot down) in ww2. pilots with combat experience are many times more valuable and battle-worthy than newbies or rookies. in the pacific theater, the japs wasted away their veteran pilots by sacrificing them in kamikaze attacks or not recovering them when they went down in the ocean. not the u.s.. one of the reasons why the tide turned in the pacific theater with aircraft carrier battles was the exponential effectiveness of experienced naval pilots. experienced and battle-hardened pilots learned the tricks and tactics of the enemy in flight and dogfights and created their own tricks and tactics to counter them, and these were hard to pass down to newbies in the heat of war. only squadrons with veterans among newbies did some new tactics were passed down. adjustments, improvisation and counters on a day-to-day basis are necessary in all warfare for success and victory. by 1944, the japs still had planes, but they lacked veteran pilots, as most of them perished in the pacific. the u.s. would sent out long-ranged catalina's with floats to search and rescue downed pilots, and recovering every downed pilot was a critical mission in itself. it was understood that even ace pilots would lose their aircraft over time, and aircraft could be replaced, but they could not afford to lose pilots.

in the age of drone warfare, all those obsessive care and concern about preserving pilots go out the window. the sea change at the pentagon started with robert gates. the u.s. are now willing and capable of throwing every piece of unmanned hardware at the enemy, as the old doctrine of pilot preservation is now.......old and history.

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eatshitndie said:

u.s. learned to value, protect and recover their pilots (after being shot down) in ww2. pilots with combat experience are many times more valuable and battle-worthy than newbies or rookies. in the pacific theater, the japs wasted away their veteran pilots by sacrificing them in kamikaze attacks or not recovering them when they went down in the ocean. not the u.s.. one of the reasons why the tide turned in the pacific theater with aircraft carrier battles was the exponential effectiveness of experienced naval pilots. experienced and battle-hardened pilots learned the tricks and tactics of the enemy in flight and dogfights and created their own tricks and tactics to counter them, and these were hard to pass down to newbies in the heat of war. only squadrons with veterans among newbies did some new tactics were passed down. adjustments, improvisation and counters on a day-to-day basis are necessary in all warfare for success and victory. by 1944, the japs still had planes, but they lacked veteran pilots, as most of them perished in the pacific. the u.s. would sent out long-ranged catalina's with floats to search and rescue downed pilots, and recovering every downed pilot was a critical mission in itself. it was understood that even ace pilots would lose their aircraft over time, and aircraft could be replaced, but they could not afford to lose pilots.

in the age of drone warfare, all those obsessive care and concern about preserving pilots go out the window. the sea change at the pentagon started with robert gates. the u.s. are now willing and capable of throwing every piece of unmanned hardware at the enemy, as the old doctrine of pilot preservation is now.......old and history.

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frenchbriefs said:

u know why russian technology is so cheap and effective?russia has always been a poor country,they had to find solutions that were just as good as the west,yet sensible and durable and cost effective..........thats why legends like AK47 were born,and their legendary missile doctrine from the 1950s.......solutions that were so simplistic yet so ingenuity.......already so efficient and powerful without having to spend millions and billions to make it so........look at how effective the missile is,because it did not require carrying a pilot,tons of electronic equipment,radars,fuel tanks in order for it to work,the missile could fly multiple times faster,more menuevuerable,reach greater heights,and huge distances(up to 300km,the distance between singapore and kuala lumpur),had huge ass modern radar solutions that were literally unjammable.compare that to the limitations of a fighter jet...every pilot's nightmare is to be locked on by a russian sam,tried and tested from the korean and vietnam war and the middle east.....naval warfare is already obsolete thanks to cruise missiles......israeli billion dollar stealth warship brought down by earlier version of chinese adapted cruise missile......imagine what a bunch of these aircraft carrier killer missiles could do.....launch a bunch of them simultaneously and watch a aircraft carrier go up in smoke......

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