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Hongkie tycoon uses his resources
To support democracy movement
Sinkie billionaire throws his money
At football club to show off

Jimmy Lai has hope for the Fragrant Harbour
 
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Hongkie tycoon uses his resources
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Sinkie billionaire throws his money
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Hong Kong tycoons build businesses and invest in people.

Singapore tycoons "do deals".
 

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Some photos and videos taken this afternoon around 3pm





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This video shows many people has shot fuse, this quarrel stems from some Cantonese speaking chinese aunties there scolding protesters, the Hongkongers responded with shouting them since they had collected their "salary" from the communist party coming here to disrupt protests they should fuck back to mainland. Women responded saying why shoud they go back to mainland as they are now also in mainland. Nevertheless they left.

Shows that the CCCP or even the Hong Kong government had troublemakers among the protesters. There was also a groud of tents manned by young hooligans pretending to be student protesters one look at them will know they are gangsters with their golden hair and tattoos. Protesters believed they are there to disrupt.
 

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The standoff







[video=youtube;5r1Eku9QkIQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r1Eku9QkIQ[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;LkBBKKkqxyE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkBBKKkqxyE[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;mcq5mbu1wIE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcq5mbu1wIE[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;LZXMPevjZ4c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZXMPevjZ4c[/video]
 

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These Cantonese hooligans are so frightening. Fortunately for Loong, Singaporeans are a reasonable lot.
 

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Protesters defiant after High Court orders them to leave Mong Kok and Admiralty sites

PUBLISHED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 7:40pm
UPDATED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 11:19pm

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Joshua Wong speaks to the crowd near Tamar Park after the High Court issued an injunction ordering protesters to clear parts of Mong Kok and Admiralty. Photo: Sam Tsang

Hong Kong's High Court has ordered pro-democracy protesters in Mong Kok and Admiralty to disperse, granting injunctions in a number of cases against the demonstrators.

Two injunctions were granted against protesters in Mong Kok at about 6.45pm to representatives of the Taxi Association and the Taxi Drivers and Operators Association in one case, and to representatives of the Chiu Luen Public Light Bus Company in another. The orders are effective immediately.

Mr Justice Jeremy Poon Shiu-chor, of the Court of First Instance, accepted the arguments of lawyers acting for the plaintiffs that the occupations in Mong Kok have continued for a long time and had caused public nuisance and “inconvenience”.

The judge also said that there had been violence at the protest sites, adding that prolonged occupation could lead to more violence between police and protesters.

The orders are imposed on “persons occupying portions of Nathan Road” but do not identify any individuals.

Hundreds of protesters remain on the streets of Mong Kok despite an initial protest camp and road blockades being cleared by police on Friday. Police have accused the demonstrators of instigating violence and charging police cordons, while the demonstrators have said that police have used excessive force and had themselves instigated chaos by charging stationary protesters.

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Police watch over the protest site in Mong Kok. A high court judge has ordered demonstrators there to leave immediately. Photo: Edward Wong

The protesters taking part in the occupation in Mong Kok, while associated with a wide variety of causes, have been united in their calls for the resignation of Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying and for the central government in Beijing to allow an open election of the next chief executive.

Beijing, through an August ruling of the national legislature, has said that the city's next leader can be elected by universal suffrage - but the shortlist of candidates must be approved by a 1,200-strong committee likely to be stacked with staunch supporters of the central government.

In the first case, the plaintiffs asked the court to order people occupying “portions of Nathan Road near to and between Argyle Street and Dundas Street” to leave. In the second case, the injunction is against those occupying the “westbound carriageway of Argyle Street between the junction of Tung Choi Street and Portland Street”.

The injunctions will be announced to protesters at the specified locations in Mong Kok and will also be published in one Chinese-language and one English-language newspaper.

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Protesters at the Admiralty site. Photo: Sam Tsang

At about 8.15pm, the High Court also issued another injunction against protesters in Admiralty, ordering them to clear fire exits, emergency vehicle exits and the entrance to the car park of Citic Tower, at the junction of Tim Mei Avenue and Lung Wui Road, adjacent to the government headquarters.

The applicant for the injunction, Golden Investment Limited, said the protests are “severely affecting the operations of commercial and retail business within the property”, and putting tenants at risk.

At the Mong Kok protest site, People Power lawmaker Albert Chan Wai-yip told demonstrators that he was talking to legal experts about ways to fight the court's decision.

"We have spoken to some barristers and solicitors and they said there is room for appeals," he said.

He also warned protesters of the raised stakes should they choose to remain. Contempt of court, he pointed out, could lead to a custodial sentence.

Scholarism convenor Joshua Wong Chi-fung said that he believed every Occupy protester respected the rule of law.

"Police have always wanted to clear [the sites] with or without the injunctions," Wong told the Post.

"The decision is an individual one whether to leave or not," he said. "I was still in police detention when [the protests] started."

However, he reiterated that anyone who joins the protests in Mong Kok should consider whether they are prepared to bear the legal consequences.

Wong advised underaged participants to stay at the back and help man supply booths, so they would not get injured if there is any violence.

Scholarism so far has no plan to call for protesters to turn themselves in en masse, he added.

In a statement, the Hong Kong Federation of Students said that it respected the court's "reasonable" decision, and advised protesters to consider the legal consequences of continuing in the civil disobedience action and to decide for themselves whether to leave or not.

"But we won't take the initiative to retreat from Mong Kok. The occupation, in itself unlawful, is an extraordinary tactic. We will shoulder the legal liability," the Federation said.

Speaking to the crowd in Admiralty ahead of planned talks with government officials, student leaders said they had met with constitutional and political experts to prepare for any questions that may be raised by Chief Secretary Carrie Lam Yuet-ngor.

"Even if the government fails to deliver anything [from the talks] tomorrow ... we cannot lose our dignity," HKFS General Secretary Alex Chow Yong-kang said to wild applause.

"At the negotiating table we will force them to face the people, force them to face reality, force them to face the truth!"

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Demonstrators work at the study area near the main Admiralty protest site. Photo: Sam Tsang

Protesters in Mong Kok were defiant. Sit in participant Larry Choi, 28, said "the injunction will not scare me away, I will wait and see the result of the meeting [between government and student groups] to decide my next plan."

If the talks come to nothing, Choi said, he will "keep joining this assembly", which has "always been illegal anyway".

Other protesters said the injunctions would make no difference.

"We will continue the sit-in peacefully and rationally," said Fun Li, adding that she would cooperate with other police instructions, provided they were reasonable.

She blamed the government for failing to take the initiative to solve the stand-off with protesters, forcing third parties to seek injunctions.

"Given the zone the government has set aside for us, it could have made better arrangements for traffic in the area," Li said.

27-year-old Eddie Tse said that "cops told us we could choose not to receive the injunction," referring to previous police advice to anti-Occupy protesters who barricaded the headquarters of the pro-democracy newspaper Apple Daily, who were also ordered to leave by the court.

Tse said he had been neutral about the Occupy movement until he and a friend were batoned by police days ago when they were passing through Mong Kok.

Thomas To, a 38-year-old who quit his job in order to join the sit-in, said the injunction applicants were acting in concert with the authorities.

"The government has been trying to depict us as rioters and lay the blame on several parties over the past weeks," To said.

Reporting by Joyce Ng, Thomas Chan, Chris Lau, Samuel Chan, Danny Mok


 

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Mong Kok ‘on the verge of a riot’: police spokesman


PUBLISHED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 6:44pm
UPDATED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 7:37pm

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Protesters remained in the streets of Mong Kok on Monday. Photo: KY Cheng

Police said the situation in Mong Kok, where hundreds of protesters remain in the streets despite efforts to clear them, is “on the verge of a riot”.

"We are very worried about the situation in Mong Kok and consider the unlawful situation [there] to be moving towards a riot," police spokesman Steven Hui Chun-tak told reporters at a regular press conference.

When asked whether any deadline had been set to clear demonstrators from the protest site, Hui repeated that the area remains “very high-risk” and appealed for children and students to leave for their own safety.

"Apparently these people come prepared," Hui said, referencing "radical protesters and troublemakers" who he said made attempts to charge police cordon lines armed with umbrellas, plastic foam, helmets and goggles.

"They jeered and scolded our police officers, and incited others to charge the police cordon lines to create chaos.

"Although no major confrontation took place, a crisis could have broken out any moment in that situation."

Children were being used as “human shields” between Occupy protesters and police officers, Hui said, adding that such behaviour was “extremely selfish and reckless and totally unacceptable to the public”.

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Police said the area is "on the verge of a riot". Photo: KY Cheng

Three men aged between 31 and 52 years old were arrested in Mong Kok on Sunday night for assault, possession of offensive weapons, possession of a poisonous substance and misconduct in a public place.

No police officer sustained any injuries.

Regarding Ken Tsang Kin-chiu, the Civic Party member who was filmed being beaten by several police officers last week, Hui said an investigation into the case is pending, and that police would seek the Department of Justice’s advice on how to proceed.

Asked why there was a delay during Tsang’s processing by police on Sunday, he said that it was “unavoidable” because the three lawyers representing Tsang “repeatedly asked questions regarding the investigation or procedures, which took time for colleagues to explain in detail.”

Hui refused to comment further on the case, on the grounds that it might jeopardise a future trial.

For those who "incite others to join unlawful assemblies" online, he said more arrests would be made once sufficient evidence is gathered.

Asked how police would respond to calls online to remove Occupy protesters’ barricades or join unlawful anti-Occupy assemblies, Hui said that police would act if the law was being broken.


 

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US hits back at claims that ‘external forces’ are backing Occupy Central


Spokesman for US consulate general rejects accusation Washington is manipulating activities of protesters in Hong Kong


PUBLISHED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 5:20pm
UPDATED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 7:19pm

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Lines of police standing behind the barricades monitor protesters in Mong Kok on Monday. Photo: K.Y. Cheng

Those who accuse foreign countries of backing protests in Hong Kong are “distracting from the issues at hand”, the United States said as it hit back at claims that Washington is meddling in the city’s internal affairs.

The remarks made by the US consulate in Hong Kong come just one day after Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying noted that “external forces from different countries from different parts of the world” had taken part in the Occupy movement, which entered its 23rd day today.

“This is not entirely a domestic movement and it is getting out of hand,” Leung told ATV’s Newsline on Sunday.

Scott Robinson, spokesman for the US consulate general, rejected the accusation that Washington is manipulating the activities of any person, group, or political party in Hong Kong.

“What is happening in Hong Kong is about the people of Hong Kong, and any assertion otherwise is an attempt to distract from the issue at hand, which is the people of Hong Kong expressing their desire for universal suffrage and an election that provides a meaningful choice of candidates representative of the voters’ will,” Robinson wrote in an email to the South China Morning Post.

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An anti-Occupy protester shows a placard saying "Support police" in Mong Kok. Photo: K.Y. Cheng

US diplomats regularly meet with a broad cross-section of Hong Kong society both in the city and in Washington and do not support any particular political party or person, Robinson said.

The statement also reiterated Washington’s support towards Hongkongers’ aspirations and backed the city to implement universal suffrage in accordance with the Basic Law.

“We believe that an open society, with the highest possible degree of autonomy and governed by the rule of law, is essential for Hong Kong’s stability and prosperity,” Robinson said.

Meanwhile on Monday, police condemned parents for allowing their children to participate in democracy protests in Mong Kok, calling the act “extremely irresponsible and dangerous”.

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Protesters' helmets and floor mats on the street behind the barricades and police in Mong Kok. Photo: K.Y. Cheng

“As some protesters act more and more radical, anyone bringing young children to high-risk areas may put their safety at risk in case of confrontation,” police said in a statement.

“The parents or adults concerned may have breached the laws of Hong Kong.”

Police said they would take “appropriate action to protect children from unnecessary harm”, without elaborating on what actions would be taken.

The stand-off between protesters and police in Mong Kok remained largely peaceful on Monday afternoon.

An unarmed pro-democracy protester who was allegedly kicked and hit by police officers will ask for a court order requiring the disclosure of the officers’ names this week after police failed to respond to his written request, his lawyer said.

Michael Vidler, lawyer for Civic Party member Ken Tsang Kin-chiu, said he wrote to the Police Commissioner at High Court Judge Thomas Au Hing-cheung’s suggestion last Thursday. Earlier, Vidler had said that they would give police until this morning to reply to the request for disclosure.

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A man takes photos of paper umbrellas in the protest area of Mong Kok. Photo: K.Y. Cheng

“Despite having the suggestion of the court, and having referred to that fact, the [police] commissioner and his legal representatives don’t have the courtesy to extend a reply,” Vidler said.

He also criticised Commissioner of Police Andy Tsang Wai-hung for worsening the damage to the reputation of the force brought about by the alleged assailants. “[He] compounded that with his apparent attempt to cover up their behaviour,” he said.

Vidler said that Tsang’s legal team would ask for the judicial review hearing to take place as early as possible, adding that they would also ask for interim relief, namely the provision of the officers’ names. He said that Tsang would need the names to pursue private prosecution against individual officers.

Meanwhile, Chan Cho-kwong, chairman of the Junior Police Officers’ Association, said his organisation had set up a concern group with the Police Inspectors’ Association to provide financial aid, counselling or legal advice to any colleagues who needed help due to their recent heavy workload.

There were no plans to raise funds for the seven officers involved in Tsang’s case yet, Chan said. Chan dismissed rumours that funds were being raised to hire lawyers for the officers. Financial aid would only cover living expenses, he said.

Jeffie Lam, Thomas Chan, Joyce Ng

 

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Chinese iCloud user information targeted in cyberattacks amid Hong Kong protests

PUBLISHED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 5:39pm
UPDATED : Monday, 20 October, 2014, 6:07pm

Patrick Boehler [email protected]

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A man holds his new iPhone 6 in front of an Apple store in Shanghai on Friday. Photo: AFP

Chinese authorities appear to have expanded a large Internet eavesdropping campaign this month to Apple services, targeting private users’ passwords, emails, photos and contacts, a censorship watchdog has said.

iCloud accounts in China were targeted in a so-called “man-in-the-middle” attack, in which hackers trick users into believing that they are accessing online services through an encrypted connection, GreatFire.org wrote in a blogpost on Monday. The attacker then gains unrestricted access to user accounts.

The attack appears to coincide with the release of Apple’s new iPhone 6 in China on Friday. Apple in Hong Kong and Beijing did not immediately reply to requests for comments on Monday.

GreatFire had earlier suggested that Chinese users of Google and Yahoo services had come under “man-in-the-middle” attacks.

The blog post suggests that the most recent attack against iCloud services could be tied to Hong Kong’s pro-democracy demonstrations which have lasted more than three weeks. The protests also triggered the largest censorship effort so far this year on Chinese social media.

Netresec, a Swedish network security software developer, analysed the attack on Yahoo and found the attack originated in China.

In a blog post earlier this month, the company said that the primary purpose of the operation appeared not to be spying on users making random searches in China, but to “'kill' their connections to Yahoo when queries like ‘Umbrella Revolution’ and ‘Tiananmen Square Protests’ are observed”.

Charlie Smith, the co-founder of GreatFire.org, says there is little doubt that Chinese authorities were to blame for the latest attack on iCloud.

"We know that the attack point is the Chinese internet backbone and that it is nationwide, which would lead us to be 100 per cent sure that this is again the work of the Chinese authorities,” he said. “Only Chinese [Internet service providers] and the government have access to the backbone.”

Smith said the recent series of attacks could also reflect an attempt by Chinese authorities to adapt their surveillance methods as more online services move to encrypted connections. “We expect that there will be more [“man-in-the-middle”] attacks in the near future and that they will increase in severity."


 

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Its all quiet in the western front

[video=youtube;RnjC3_MlyX8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjC3_MlyX8[/video]









 

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Lennon Wall

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Hong Kong's government building is designed with a big open space like an open door as its said that the government welcomes all Hong Kong people's suggestions, feedback etc etc its like an open door welcoming Hong Kong people. But then the people is saying whatever they say is like saying to deaf ears.



The building behind is their equivalent of the parliament

 

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More photos taken this morning on my way for a meeting near the site

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After all the walking time for a rub

 

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In 5 years time Singapore will celebrate our 15th year anniversary under the glorious reign of Loong, just like how HK is celebrating their handover to China today. I am rubbing my hands in anticipation of something good for the Prince!
 
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