US State Dept: Flame and Smoke of WW3 already began

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Russian Incursion in Ukraine ‘Likely Underway,’ US Says
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By Ali Weinberg
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Aug 27, 2014 10:57pm

The United States is concerned that a Russian-directed counteroffensive is “likely underway” in Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Wednesday, citing Russian troops and equipment pushing into Ukraine, shelling in residential towns near the border and heavy fighting near the airport in Donetsk.

“These incursion — incursions — indicate a Russian-directed counteroffensive is likely underway in Donetsk and Luhansk. Clearly, that is of deep concern to us,” she said.

One potential consequence of Russia’s advance is its ability to create a land bridge between eastern Ukraine and the region of Crimea, which Russia officially claimed as its own in March.

“It’s hard for us to ascribe what the motivation is, but certainly we’re closely watching this incursion and any steps [Russia] is taking in southeastern Ukraine, whether it’s next to Crimea or not,” she said.

Psaki said the U.S. is also troubled by the fact that Russian soldiers have been found 30 miles inside Ukraine, and, according to videos released by the Ukrainian government, were not told where they were going by their commanders.

“Russia is sending its young men into Ukraine, but [is] not telling them where they’re going or telling their parents what they’re doing,” she said.

News of Russian troops and equipment entering Ukraine is only the latest development in fighting that sprouted from protests over the previous, pro-Russian government that was later ousted. Pro-Russian separatists have sought to take over parts of eastern Ukraine, but in recent weeks have been pushed back by the Ukrainian military.

Russia’s actions over the past 24 hours could be an indication it’s trying to shift the balance toward the rebels in the east against the central Ukrainian government.

Despite voicing these concerns, Psaki did not announce any plans by the United States to further punish Russia on top of economic sanctions already imposed since Russia began its move on eastern Ukraine.

She said President Obama would likely discuss Russia’s actions next week at a NATO leaders’ summit in Wales.

US will just stand by and watch Ukraine get overrun. Russians have all the advantages, short supply line, secure logistic assembly points, backing of the people, black sea a Russian lake et etc..

US will be fighting in unknown terrorities, unfamiliar langague, extended supplies line, unwilling allies (Germany) and most important, US is broke.

US got rich by supplying war materials to Allies countries in both world wars and only enter the fray when the original participants exhausted their strengths. If I remember correctly, Britain only finish paying the instalments for the Lend-Lease war supplies incurred in WW2 to US during Tony Blair era as PM.

sleaguepunter said:

US will just stand by and watch Ukraine get overrun. Russians have all the advantages, short supply line, secure logistic assembly points, backing of the people, black sea a Russian lake et etc..

US will be fighting in unknown terrorities, unfamiliar langague, extended supplies line, unwilling allies (Germany) and most important, US is broke.

US got rich by supplying war materials to Allies countries in both world wars and only enter the fray when the original participants exhausted their strengths. If I remember correctly, Britain only finish paying the instalments for the Lend-Lease war supplies incurred in WW2 to US during Tony Blair era as PM.

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during the WW2 the fucking US Ass did nothing when germany was invading the european countries.
in fact US Ass companies were supplying oil and essential materials to the german.
all these companies made huge profits during the war.
It was only at a later stage that US Ass got involved in the war.
and with the successful testing of the H bomb , it began to act like a big bully.

Go Team Russia! Go Putin!

Fucking Ukrainian Jews trying to stir shit in Russia's backyard, as they do too in other parts of the world. Too bad for them, Putin has balls.

laksaboy said:

Go Team Russia! Go Putin!

Fucking Ukrainian Jews trying to stir shit in Russia's backyard, as they do too in other parts of the world. Too bad for them, Putin has balls.

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turn them into soap
then go to Middle East and turn the rest of the jews into soap or soup.
Matters not the slightest bit to me
Soup can be given to pigs to enjoy

China has given her approval to Russia.

"Own time, own target, Fire!!!"

why hasnt USA invaded russia yet?i thought russia has weapons of mass destruction and chemical warfare?GOGOGO USA!!!!!!Osama might be hiding in moscow!!!!

frenchbriefs said:

why hasnt USA invaded russia yet?i thought russia has weapons of mass destruction and chemical warfare?GOGOGO USA!!!!!!Osama might be hiding in moscow!!!!

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USA is fucking Bankrupt and Chicken.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81204776/


Russian armored invasion of Ukraine confirmed by NATO, separatists
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People hold placards reading, from right, "Putin get out!", "Putin go home, there is no vodka!" and "Death for enemies!" during a rally in the center of the southern Ukrainian city of Mariupol on Aug. 28.
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August 29, 2014, 3:22 a.m.
Russian tanks and troops fired their way into eastern Ukraine on Thursday and seized a strategic gateway town on the road to the heavily militarized Crimean peninsula that Moscow annexed in March, Ukrainian and NATO officials reported.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization released satellite photos of Russia's recent troop and armor buildup on its border with Ukraine, and images showing columns of tanks and armored vehicles entering Ukraine from Russia's Rostov region.

The Western military alliance evidence was bolstered by a pro-Russia separatist leader who told Russian state television that at least 3,000 Russian gunmen, many of them retired military or active-duty Kremlin troops on leave, have been fighting alongside the Ukrainian separatists since their uprising began five months ago.

"They are fighting with us, understanding that it is their duty," said*Alexander Zakharchenko, the self-styled leader of the breakaway Donetsk People's Republic, undermining Russian President Vladimir Putin's insistence that Russia has no role in the Ukrainian conflict.

Ukrainian security officials reported a major expansion of the armored incursion into Novoazovsk that began Wednesday. The report by Col. Andriy Lysenko of the National Security and Defense Council that two armored columns had crossed into Ukraine after firing rockets over the border prompted Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to cancel a trip abroad and summon the government's security council for an emergency meeting.

"I have made a decision to cancel my working visit to the Republic of Turkey due to sharp aggravation of the situation in Donetsk region," Poroshenko said. "Today the president’s place is in Kiev."

A report from the security council said the Russian armored incursion, which has opened up a new front in Kiev's battle against separatists, was carried out by regular Russian military forces replacing local militants and nationalists who had lost significant territory last month to Ukrainian troops.

Government forces were overwhelmed by the armored columns and ordered to withdraw, the security council statement said, leaving Novoazovsk for the invading Russians to take.

Ukrainian troops were reinforcing their positions on the seaside road leading to Mariupol, a city of nearly 500,000 that is a key shipping terminus and steelmaking venue. The same road leads eventually to the Crimean peninsula, where Russia's Black Sea Fleet and about 25,000 troops are based.

The Russian deployments onto the Sea of Azov road have heightened fears that the Kremlin is planning to seize the corridor to provide a land bridge from the Russian mainland to Crimea.

At NATO's military headquarters in Mons, Belgium, a Dutch general in charge of the alliance crisis management center released satellite images captured over the last two weeks and said they confirmed Russia's military intrusion.

"Over the past two weeks we have noted a significant escalation in both the level and sophistication of Russia’s military interference in Ukraine,” said Brig. Gen. Nico Tak.

"Russia is reinforcing and resupplying separatist forces in a blatant attempt to change the momentum of the fighting, which is currently favoring the Ukrainian military," Tak told journalists at a news conference.

He also said NATO estimates that there are at least 1,000 Russian military personnel directly engaged in fighting in Ukraine, and that 20,000 battle-ready troops and hundreds of tanks and armored vehicles are amassed in Russia just across the border.

Tak said the Russian action was aimed at freezing the conflict and confronting Ukraine with a permanent security crisis.

"It’s likely that the situation will end in a stalemate," he said. "The foothold that has been created will be expanded and secured so that the separatists will not suffer a defeat."

French President Francois Hollande said the presence of Russian troops in eastern Ukraine was unacceptable. "If the escalation continues, European Union sanctions [against Russia] will remain and could even be strengthened,” he warned.*

German Chancellor Angela Merkel called Putin on Wednesday to demand an explanation of reports that Russian troops had invaded Ukraine, according to a statement released by her office.

Ukrainian government forces last month recovered more than half of the territory seized by pro-Russia separatists in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of eastern Ukraine in early spring, a rebellion inspired by the Kremlin's invasion and annexation of the Crimea region.

Putin has so far ignored appeals by the separatists to annex their territory to the Russian Federation it borders.

Special correspondent Butenko reported from Kiev and staff writer Williams from Los Angeles. Special correspondent Isabel Gorst in Moscow also contributed to this report.

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Vladimir Putin Ramps Up His Postmodern Non-Invasion Invasion of Ukraine
By Joshua Keating

This is not a tank.
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The Russian government and the pro-Russian rebels in Eastern Ukraine used to deny that they were cooperating. All that advanced weaponry, including tanks and anti-aircraft systems, were simply captured from Ukrainian government forces, the explanations went. The Russians fighting with the rebels were simply private citizens and the Russian government had no control over them.


JOSHUA KEATING
Joshua Keating is a staff writer at Slate focusing on international affairs and writes the World blog.*

In the last few days, however, we’ve seen an escalation in both Russia’s military involvement in Eastern Ukraine and the creativity of the explanations for this involvement. You see, the thousands of current Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine aren’t an invading army—they’re just on vacation. Here’s the New York Times:

[T]he leader of the main separatist group in southeastern Ukraine said that up to 4,000 Russians, including active-duty soldiers currently on leave, had been fighting against Ukrainian government forces, Russian television reported.
“There are active soldiers fighting among us who preferred to spend their vacation not on the beach, but with us, among their brothers, who are fighting for their freedom,” Aleksandr Zakharchenko, a rebel commander and the prime minister of the self-declared Donetsk People’s Republic, said in an interview on Russian state-run television.
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You can see satellite imagery of what NATO says are Russian military convoys here, as well as video here. The Russian government continues to deny that Russian forces are crossing the border or that the government is arming the rebels. One can only imagine what creative explanations they’ll come up with next.

Just a few weeks ago, in the wake of the MH17 crash, the conflict seemed on the verge of being snuffed out with Ukrainian forces rapidly regaining rebel-held territory. Now, even as Ukrainian forces close in on the rebel strongholds of Donetsk and Luhanks, Russian troops appear to have opened a new front of the battle along the southeastern portion of the border.

Incredibly, this has been done in such a way that President Vladimir Putin can continue denying that Russia is playing a direct military role in the conflict while holding talks this week with Ukrainian President Poro Petroshenko.

For now, my prediction made in the wake of the MH17 crash still holds. Russia’s government will continue to supply the rebels with enough help to keep the conflict going, prevent Ukraine’s new government from asserting control over the country’s territory, deny that it’s doing anything of the sort, and—at least publicly—continue to push for a negotiated solution to the conflict as if it’s not doing anything to prolong it.

This strange postmodern war, in which the two sides are operating not only from different points of view but from entirely different versions of reality, isn’t ending any time soon.

fucking humji american hypocrites!!!!!!ukraine is the perfect opportunity for a proxy war and show off ur military might just like vietnam and korea isnt it?so what are u waiting for?

frenchbriefs said:

fucking humji american hypocrites!!!!!!ukraine is the perfect opportunity for a proxy war and show off ur military might just like vietnam and korea isnt it?so what are u waiting for?

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Israel is also good. Supply Arabs the whole WW3 stocks of modern arsons now and Israel will be ash at once. Supply tactical nukes is a must. Without which USA wouldn't realize that whole new age had began.

lionsoup said:

Israel is also good. Supply Arabs the whole WW3 stocks of modern arsons now and Israel will be ash at once. Supply tactical nukes is a must. Without which USA wouldn't realize that whole new age had began.

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israel is stolen land,why nuke their own country?better to build ovens for the jews.

Beijing and Moscow are both dealing business with US in too civilized ways for any good. They just have to ditch all of the Western value rules for once and for all. Settle everything in pure brute force and sea of blood not bit by bit like this. Wasting time.


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Nato: Russia is pouring 1,000 troops into Ukraine
At least 100 Russian soldiers have been killed in battle inside Ukraine, it was claimed on Thursday, as Nato accuses the Kremlin of pouring more than 1,000 troops into the east of the country

Pro-Russian rebels hold their guns as they patrol the Lenin square in the town of Donetsk, eastern Ukraine*Photo: Mstislav Chernov/AP
By Tom Parfitt in Moscow and Ben Farmer10:14PM BST 28 Aug 2014
At least 100 Russian soldiers have been killed in battle inside Ukraine, it was claimed on Thursday, as Nato accused the Kremlin of pouring tanks, artillery and more than 1,000 troops into the east of the country.
Two members of Russia’s presidential human rights commission said that 100 servicemen died and 300 were injured in fighting with Ukrainian forces near Snizhnye, a fiercely contested town in the Donetsk region.
The report emerged as the war in Ukraine lurched into a dangerous new phase, with Moscow prompting international condemnation by launching a new incursion into its neighbour in support of pro-Russian separatists.
This caused an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council last night and forced Petro Poroshenko, Ukraine’s president, to cancel a trip to Turkey.
He said that Russian troops had “actually been brought into Ukraine” and the world should “respond to a sharp deterioration of the situation” in the country.
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The US said it was considering a range of possible responses, including increased sanctions. Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the UN, told the meeting that Russia “has manipulated. It has obfuscated. It has outright lied”.
Andriy Lysenko, a spokesman for Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council, said there had been a “direct invasion” from Russia along the coast of the Sea of Azov in southern Ukraine.
Vitaly Churkin, the Russian ambassador, responded that Kiev “is waging war against its own people”.
The council announced that conscription, abandoned last year, would be reintroduced this autumn in response to the crisis.
Ella Polyakova and Sergei Krivenko, who work for a quasi-independent Russian human rights body which advises Vladimir Putin, claimed that 100 Russian soldiers had been killed in Ukraine, citing eyewitness accounts and relations of the dead for an incident on Aug 13.
They told Reuters news agency that the large number of casualties was caused by a column of trucks carrying ammunition being hit by a volley of Grad rockets. Nato said yesterday that at least 1,000 Russian troops had poured into eastern Ukraine, as it released new satellite photographs of the build-up of armour and artillery on both sides of the border.
Moscow faced a growing international backlash over the reports which came two days after Mr Putin promised regional leaders meeting in Minsk, Belarus, that Russia was playing no part in Ukraine’s “internal conflict”.
In a statement, David Cameron, said it was “simply not enough to engage in talks in Minsk while Russian tanks continue to roll over the border into Ukraine”. If Russia did not “pursue a different path” there would be “further consequences”, he said.
François Hollande, the president of France, described the possible presence of Russian troops in eastern Ukraine as “intolerable and unacceptable”.
Geoffrey Pyatt, the US ambassador to Kiev, wrote on Twitter: “Russian-supplied tanks, armoured vehicles, artillery and multiple rocket launchers have been insufficient to defeat Ukraine armed forces. So now an increasing number of Russian troops are intervening directly in fighting on Ukrainian territory.”
Russia continued to deny involvement in the crisis, with a defence ministry spokesman describing reports of Russian troops in Ukraine as a “canard”.
Andrey Kelin, Russia’s representative to the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe, said the only Russian servicemen on Ukrainian territory were 10 paratroopers taken captive when they crossed the border “by accident” on Monday. Kiev has said those men were sent on a “special mission”.
Despite the Kremlin’s denial of support for the separatists, yesterday Alexander Zakharchenko, the prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, told a Moscow television station that they had been joined by 3,000 to 4,000 fighters from Russia, many of whom were soldiers who were “on holiday”.
“Among us are fighting serving soldiers who would rather take their vacation not on a beach but with us, among brothers, who are fighting for their freedom,” said Mr Zakharchenko.