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PM to youth: Study what's good for your job

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The Straits TimesSunday, Aug 24, 2014
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PM to youth: Study what's good for your job
PM Lee Hsien Loong dialogue with youth at a post National Day Rally forum’, organised by Ang Mo Kio GRC and Sengkang West SMC Youth Executive Committees(YEC).
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Young people peppered Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong with questions about a new national push to enhance job opportunities for polytechnic and ITE graduates at a post-rally dialogue in Ang Mo Kio yesterday.
The first question was on how the Government planned to stop the paper chase, and change attitudes in the public sector.
That was swiftly followed by one from a Nanyang Technological University undergraduate who introduced himself as Suhaimi. He wanted to know what better opportunities for diploma holders would mean for those who took the degree route and whether the latter would still be "worthwhile".
He was one of about 350 young Singaporeans aged 12 to 35 who attended the dialogue, organised by the Youth Executive Committees of Ang Mo Kio GRC and Sengkang West, and held at St Nicholas Girls' School.
Mr Lee explained that the Government is not discouraging people from pursuing degrees but it wants young people to study what would be useful and valuable to them when they went to work.
Later, he also said that young people need to be aware that they have choices. They can head straight for university after school or work first and study part-time.
Right now, many do not know the menu of choices before them. That is why the Applied Study in Polytechnic and ITE Review Committee has recommended better career guidance for students, he said.
Mr Lee and Ang Mo Kio GRC MP Inderjit Singh also highlighted the problem of some young people and their parents paying large sums for degree courses at institutions where the quality of education was suspect.
Mr Singh said that as an employer, he would prefer to hire a diploma holder, rather than someone with a degree from an unknown university that offered two-year degree courses, for example.
Turning to hiring decisions, Mr Lee tackled concerns about the public sector, which is known to consider only graduates for many jobs. He said that the Civil Service had to make sure it hired people who could do the jobs it needed them to do.
That is why a Maths teacher, for example, needs to have a Maths degree or one in a related subject such as physics.
Someone hired to be a doctor should have passed his medical exams.
But in hiring an SAF officer, for example, there was no need for a specific academic qualification as what was needed was a man "who knew his business in the SAF, who has the right spirit and the right values and who can fight", he said.
A student from ITE College East by the name of Nicholas said he hoped to join the police but heard that diploma holders could only hope to move up to the rank of staff sergeant while a graduate would immediately be appointed assistant inspector.
Mr Lee said a degree gives a sense of what someone has accomplished but should only be a "starting point", as how a person advances in his career should depend on his performance and abilities.
Two of the young participants also asked Mr Lee about conserving nature and green places in Singapore. One expressed concern that the planned cross-island MRT line would cut through the Central Catchment Reserve.
Mr Lee said that has not been finalised and that first, the agencies in charge need to do an Environmental Impact Assessment. He also explained that if the line were to cut through the reserve, it would do so underground, and it might be possible to do so without harming the trees and animals above ground.

This article was first published on August 24, 2014.
Get a copy of The Straits Times or go to straitstimes.com for more stories.
- See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/news/edvantage/pm-youth-study-whats-good-your-job#sthash.NSn44Rjg.dpuf
 

laksaboy

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The fucked up PM gives fucked up study/career advice, what a surprise! :rolleyes:

Study or do what you are interested in. Forget about how 'marketable' the skills are.

If you don't like numbers, don't torment yourself and study accountancy.

If you don't like meeting people, don't torture yourself and do sales.

P.S: I wonder what Lee Hsien Loong had studied at Nanyang Girl's High School to make him a PM? Obviously he had studied something that's good for his job. :wink:
 

jw5

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Poor fellow. :(

Papa told him the opposite, otherwise now he may be a maths lecturer married to a chiobu. :wink:

Study or do what you are interested in. Forget about how 'marketable' the skills are.
 

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Source: Diary of A Singaporean Mind

Monday, September 05, 2011
Wikileaks : Govt does not want more Singaporeans to have university education...

In the next few postings, I'll go through the wiki-leaks revelations and explain each one in greater detail.

Govt does not want more Singaporeans to have degrees[Link]
¶9. (C) Singapore boasts a highly competitive and
well-regarded primary and secondary education system, but the
number of Singaporeans completing a tertiary education is
relatively low. Only 23 percent of Singaporean students
entering primary school complete a degree at a local
four-year university. In other knowledge-economies such as
Japan's, around 50 percent of students complete a university
degree. However, according to Cheryl Chan, Assistant
Director of the Planning Division at the Ministry of
Education (MOE), the government does not plan to encourage
more students to get a higher education. The university
enrollment rate will continue to be maintained at 20-25
percent
because the Singaporean labor market does not need
everyone to get a four-year degree, she asserted.

This is an important revelation because the PAP govt has promised openly to develop every Singaporean to his full potential. If what Cheryl Chan said is true that there is some kind of quoto to be maintained, this promise is bogus. This promise was again repeated in the PAP's 2011 election campaign manifesto:

education.JPG


We know that hundreds(( if not thousands?) of Singaporeans have to go overseas for further education because they cannot get a place in our universities. Yet the PAP govt educates the children of foreigners for free by giving out scholarships. Singaporean children from lower income families miss out on a university education because they are too poor to go overseas when local universities reject them in favor of foreigners who are granted scholarships. This makes the PAP promise to go all out to develop Singaporeans to the fullest bogus and if anything, there are fewer opportunities here than in elsewhere because of the tight quotas imposed on the number of Singaporeans getting university degrees.
 

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The Straits TimesSunday, Aug 24, 2014
20140824_postrallydialogue.jpg
PM to youth: Study what's good for your job
PM Lee Hsien Loong dialogue with youth at a post National Day Rally forum’, organised by Ang Mo Kio GRC and Sengkang West SMC Youth Executive Committees(YEC).
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Young people peppered Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong with questions about a new national push to enhance job opportunities for polytechnic and ITE graduates at a post-rally dialogue in Ang Mo Kio yesterday.
The first question was on how the Government planned to stop the paper chase, and change attitudes in the public sector.
That was swiftly followed by one from a Nanyang Technological University undergraduate who introduced himself as Suhaimi. He wanted to know what better opportunities for diploma holders would mean for those who took the degree route and whether the latter would still be "worthwhile".
He was one of about 350 young Singaporeans aged 12 to 35 who attended the dialogue, organised by the Youth Executive Committees of Ang Mo Kio GRC and Sengkang West, and held at St Nicholas Girls' School.
Mr Lee explained that the Government is not discouraging people from pursuing degrees but it wants young people to study what would be useful and valuable to them when they went to work.
Later, he also said that young people need to be aware that they have choices. They can head straight for university after school or work first and study part-time.
Right now, many do not know the menu of choices before them. That is why the Applied Study in Polytechnic and ITE Review Committee has recommended better career guidance for students, he said.
Mr Lee and Ang Mo Kio GRC MP Inderjit Singh also highlighted the problem of some young people and their parents paying large sums for degree courses at institutions where the quality of education was suspect.
Mr Singh said that as an employer, he would prefer to hire a diploma holder, rather than someone with a degree from an unknown university that offered two-year degree courses, for example.
Turning to hiring decisions, Mr Lee tackled concerns about the public sector, which is known to consider only graduates for many jobs. He said that the Civil Service had to make sure it hired people who could do the jobs it needed them to do.
That is why a Maths teacher, for example, needs to have a Maths degree or one in a related subject such as physics.
Someone hired to be a doctor should have passed his medical exams.
But in hiring an SAF officer, for example, there was no need for a specific academic qualification as what was needed was a man "who knew his business in the SAF, who has the right spirit and the right values and who can fight", he said.
A student from ITE College East by the name of Nicholas said he hoped to join the police but heard that diploma holders could only hope to move up to the rank of staff sergeant while a graduate would immediately be appointed assistant inspector.
Mr Lee said a degree gives a sense of what someone has accomplished but should only be a "starting point", as how a person advances in his career should depend on his performance and abilities.
Two of the young participants also asked Mr Lee about conserving nature and green places in Singapore. One expressed concern that the planned cross-island MRT line would cut through the Central Catchment Reserve.
Mr Lee said that has not been finalised and that first, the agencies in charge need to do an Environmental Impact Assessment. He also explained that if the line were to cut through the reserve, it would do so underground, and it might be possible to do so without harming the trees and animals above ground.

This article was first published on August 24, 2014.
Get a copy of The Straits Times or go to straitstimes.com for more stories.
- See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/news/edvantage/pm-youth-study-whats-good-your-job#sthash.NSn44Rjg.dpuf

一技在身 still is applicable in today's world.
 

borom

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" But in hiring an SAF officer, for example, there was no need for a specific academic qualification as what was needed was a man "who knew
his business in the SAF, who has the right spirit and the right values and who can fight
"

Is that the reason why most of the top position goes to scholars none of whom seems to have any actual combat experience ?
 

Bigfuck

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You know how tutors they needed for the Lee genetic cesspool and how much backdoor was required to make their toilet paper stick? How one of the he-she man could not even make it with all this help. This excludes the help of Ministry of Eradication from getting rid of people who would problems for them in the elite world. Actually, most of the so called elites come from gun runners, drug dealers, crooked construction jokers, pimps, swindlers and gangsters
 

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" But in hiring an SAF officer, for example, there was no need for a specific academic qualification as what was needed was a man "who knew
his business in the SAF, who has the right spirit and the right values and who can fight"

Is that the reason why most of the top position goes to scholars none of whom seems to have any actual combat experience ?

He is about the fastest general ever..... he is talking about this without blushing?????
 

ginfreely

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The PM should apply what he preached to the foreigner kids first and stop giving scholarships for foreigners to study for free straight all the way from secondary to university; while Singaporeans are told of so called option to work first and study part time.

"Mr Lee explained that the Government is not discouraging people from pursuing degrees but it wants young people to study what would be useful and valuable to them when they went to work.
Later, he also said that young people need to be aware that they have choices. They can head straight for university after school or work first and study part-time."
 
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