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Fraudulent Charity Arms of Religious bodies

scroobal

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After the Renci and. Ciry Harvest scandals I hope the Commissioner of Charities learns some valuable lessons from these 2 scandals. The COC posts and powers were completely revamped after Durai made a fool of the. Deputy Secretary of Ministry of Health and Lim Hng Kiang was found wanting after his statement in. Parliament about the veracity of claims by NKF.

1. All new churches and religious bodies of non mainstream sects know that their charity arm pulls in more money and donations from members as well s non members. The actual expenditure and intent of donation cannot be easily reconciled. There are no public disclosures and there is regulations that stipulates this. So the sum that City. Harvest collected for the Haiti disaster on which much publicity was accorded to the Kong's wife cannot be accounted for.

2. Kong's wife has made many claims suggesting personal donations but these cannot be verified.

3. Use of multiple accounts and channel for contributions does not make it easy for anyone to be certain that their contributions are going to the right bucket as the lines are unclear.

4. A core set of individuals appear to be running the show both in an official and unofficial capacity but clearly directing actions has surfaced in the CHC trials when thy should have been kept at arms length is a concern. It completely destroys any form of governance both internally and those that are required as statutory requirements.

I am certain that the same has been going in other similar organisations and despite warnings from people like Ronald Poon the authorities are slow to act.

The fact that the prosecution refused yo reveal the FIR suggest that like the NKF where someone influential like Willy Shee had to step, in the case of CHC something similar must have occurred.
 
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sochi2014

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Secular shit like NKF scandals also happens. To say we can prevent scams is rather naive thinking. Because human greeds knows no bounds. It is ingrained into human culture since the birth of Caine and Abel.
 

Leongsam

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Religion sells false promises so it's a fraud from the onset regardless of how the accounts are kept.

The solve the problem at source, just outlaw the whole concept.
 

quelone

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Secular shit like NKF scandals also happens. To say we can prevent scams is rather naive thinking. Because human greeds knows no bounds. It is ingrained into human culture since the birth of Caine and Abel.

What you say is true but that is not his point. He is saying that perhaps some more lessons have been learnt in the light of this latest event so that further measures can be put in place to mitigate against this type of fraud.
 

scroobal

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I agree that religion is the issue and lets face it it causing a lot of the current world conflicts. But the immediate issue is the abuse of the charity status.
 

halsey02

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Religious groups do charity work to get tax breaks. All of them.


http://www.guidemesingapore.com/incorporation/other/non-profit-entity-part1

By the looks of it, our dear government, as long as it generates consumption tax (7%), which shine like gold in the sunshine...it is all right with them. These charity organises TV shows etc...call in alone generate much GST & staging the shows etc..

IT IS MONEY...when there is money to be make, our dear government gets very RELIGIOUS!!:biggrin::biggrin:
 

Faker

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If Islam is analogical to wolf, then christenity is werewolf in Santa Claus clothing. Almost always get away doing bad things in the name of 'G-o(o)-dness'.
 

scroobal

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There are too many senior govt officials and even MPs that are involved with the new churches. One of the first female PS is heavy into this shit. CHC has been become a PSP voting bloc similar to the Us bible belt.

By the looks of it, our dear government, as long as it generates consumption tax (7%), which shine like gold in the sunshine...it is all right with them. These charity organises TV shows etc...call in alone generate much GST & staging the shows etc..

IT IS MONEY...when there is money to be make, our dear government gets very RELIGIOUS!!:biggrin::biggrin:
 

lee6100

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There are too many senior govt officials and even MPs that are involved with the new churches. One of the first female PS is heavy into this shit. CHC has been become a PSP voting bloc similar to the Us bible belt.

Corporate leaders too; eg. the lady in the water business.
 

Faker

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In the western, people are abandoning this holy crap but here dumbers are picking up like holy pearls.
 

halsey02

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There are too many senior govt officials and even MPs that are involved with the new churches. One of the first female PS is heavy into this shit. CHC has been become a PSP voting bloc similar to the Us bible belt.

That was one from Whampoa who did dare to make a stand in the past, if you remember....ISD will attend his sermons...how many dare to stand up to their conviction these days..dare serve God instead of mammon ??? ...none!, for mammon had become their god!
 

scroobal

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Yes, and after she fell very ill, she became more fervent.

Kong and his cohorts have told their defence team that under no circumstances are they to reveal the identity of core donors and influential people. He knows that they are the cash cow that he needs to tide him and his wife over while he sits in Changi. More importantly they to also do not want to be identified. Note that the prosecution has not even subpeoned any of the donors of the special account which is prosecution 101. Tells you that influence has been exercised.

Corporate leaders too; eg. the lady in the water business.
 

scroobal

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Exactly. Look at the Scandinavian countries where religion is slowly dying. They have become a better and happier society. Look at London in comparison. islam huge with new mosques are built faster than you can say Allah. Go to certain places and you will spot bearded residents with skull caps than in Karqchi. Now they have their own home grown fanatics. Everyone one of the nutjobs that bombed their subway were born in the UK.


In the western, people are abandoning this holy crap but here dumbers are picking up like holy pearls.
 

Hans168

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4. A core set of individuals appear to be running the show both in an official and unofficial capacity but clearly directing actions has surfaced in the CHC trials when thy should have been kept at arms length is a concern. It completely destroys any form of governance both internally and those that are required as statutory requirements.

Taoist Federation rakes in millions from devotees and donors.There is NO core of individual running the show......... worse: it got executive chairman Tan Tiam Lye single-handedly calling the shots. Rest of his exCo just rubber stamping.....
Yes it is worrisome as I have seen FFederation donating $100,000 to another temple in what clearly is round tripping of money.
 

scroobal

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Sikhs are the same. Religions is really nasty.


Taoist Federation rakes in millions from devotees and donors.There is NO core of individual running the show......... worse: it got executive chairman Tan Tiam Lye single-handedly calling the shots. Rest of his exCo just rubber stamping.....
Yes it is worrisome as I have seen FFederation donating $100,000 to another temple in what clearly is round tripping of money.
 

halsey02

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if she gives 10% of her income, datz a lot....... praised be the lord!! Also the film making chee kor pek!

Don't forget the Butch from the fashion stores , was it "street something" also....& was that another one, the $2 stores that went bankrupt....it is quite extensive...:rolleyes:
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Remember also that religion is used within the US bible belt as means of papering over the atrocities committed by Israel.

The more scientifically advanced society has become, the more religion is incompatible with society's progress.

In Singapore the management of charity somehow is a minefield and religious charities are a double minefield. We can't seem to get our charities straight.
 
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