A Potential Political Hot Potato For Lee Hsien Loong

TracyTan866 · Aug 19, 2014

zhihau said:
Imagine TCB losing by 7500+ votes

it was a very, very close shave for TT and the pap.

I suspect the pap will do away with Elected President soon

Does the pap have enough stomach to face another Presidential Election? There is a good chance that the pap endorsed candidate may lose his deposit.

zhihau · Aug 19, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
does non teaching hours affect class size?

I have this long held suspicion that it does. Class sizes remained largely the same all these years sans the primary schools in P1 & P2, there after, 40 per class is the norm.

TracyTan866 · Aug 19, 2014

zhihau said:
I have this long held suspicion that it does. Class sizes remained largely the same all these years sans the primary schools in P1 & P2, there after, 40 per class is the norm.

I think it may not

zhihau · Aug 19, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
I think it may not

Pray tell how the number of teachers increased over the decade and the student population relatively stagnant and yet class sizes remained the same? :smile:

TracyTan866 · Aug 19, 2014

zhihau said:
Pray tell how the number of teachers increased over the decade and the student population relatively stagnant and yet class sizes remained the same?

MOE increases recruitment. But MOE fails to retain the teachers. Many teachers opted for early retirement and early termination of contract.

Increased foreign students intake

I believe class size did come down a little but not significantly

Bigfuck · Aug 19, 2014

zhihau said:
An increasing number of civil servants voting for oppositions. The last PE was telling.

5 more percent in the polls and the tanks and guns must come out and we will witness self proclaimed chosen ones (thinking they are also like Israelites) will come out to slaughter the people. The key now is to cheat and make sure the figure looks like 20 percent.

zhihau · Aug 19, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
I believe class size did come down a little but not significantly

Let me break it down for you: the total number of teachers increased by 10% in the last decade from 30K to 33K, student intake per year relatively stagnant over the last decade despite the top up of foreign students after taking the falling birth rate into consideration. Class size remained the same over the last decade. Why?

zhihau · Aug 19, 2014

Bigfuck said:
5 more percent in the polls and the tanks and guns must come out

the tanks and guns to prevent the jiak liao bee MIW from fleeing the country? :biggrin:

makapaaa · Aug 19, 2014

zhihau · Aug 19, 2014

makapaaa said:

steady poon pi pi! :smile:

TracyTan866 · Aug 20, 2014

Bigfuck said:
5 more percent in the polls and the tanks and guns must come out and we will witness self proclaimed chosen ones (thinking they are also like Israelites) will come out to slaughter the people. The key now is to cheat and make sure the figure looks like 20 percent.

interesting perspective!

TracyTan866 · Aug 20, 2014

zhihau said:
Let me break it down for you: the total number of teachers increased by 10% in the last decade from 30K to 33K, student intake per year relatively stagnant over the last decade despite the top up of foreign students after taking the falling birth rate into consideration. Class size remained the same over the last decade. Why?

from your figures, then if class size was 36 students then, it would probably be 33 now. that's not a significant drop.

but class size is not just determined by teachers number alone. Buildings and infrastructure do affect the number of classes a school can accommodate. If a school can only have 50 classes and is given 1800 students, average class size will be 36 regardless of number of teachers

TracyTan866 · Aug 20, 2014

zhihau said:
the tanks and guns to prevent the jiak liao bee MIW from fleeing the country?

that will be good

TracyTan866 · Aug 20, 2014

makapaaa said:

that's what many singaporeans plan to do

jw5 · Aug 20, 2014

Involved in all sorts of CCAs and other MOE initiatives not related to classroom learning? :o :biggrin:

zhihau said:
Let me break it down for you: the total number of teachers increased by 10% in the last decade from 30K to 33K, student intake per year relatively stagnant over the last decade despite the top up of foreign students after taking the falling birth rate into consideration. Class size remained the same over the last decade. Why?

Satyr · Aug 20, 2014

kingrant said:
We have been having the wrong people in power. All these scholar idiots and dolts who have never worked a minute in the private sector have been trying to spot winners and ended up littering the place with duds. Recall Ho Ching when she ran Micropolis and you get the idea.

Right, and since they are clueless but effective they will get you into trouble faster.

zhihau · Aug 20, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
from your figures, then if class size was 36 students then, it would probably be 33 now. that's not a significant drop.

A class size is usually pegged at 40 students. Class size should rightfully be reduced by 10% but it's not even happening.

zhihau · Aug 20, 2014

jw5 said:
Involved in all sorts of CCAs and other MOE initiatives not related to classroom learning? :o

Think they called it character building :eek:

laksaboy · Aug 20, 2014

zhihau said:
A class size is usually pegged at 40 students. Class size should rightfully be reduced by 10% but it's not even happening.

Big class sizes are fun. 20-a-side soccer teams during PE lessons. :biggrin:

jw5 · Aug 20, 2014

We played semi finals 10 a team, then finals. :biggrin:

laksaboy said:
Big class sizes are fun. 20-a-side soccer teams during PE lessons.

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