Is This The Beginning of The END?

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

1. US and EU's sanctions may hurt and weaken Russia
2. Israel's air and artillery strikes have killed more than 1000 innocent civilians
3. World opinions may be against Israel
4. Violence in Gaza may escalate resulting in more civilian deaths
5. USA is becoming increasingly weak

Will the above make Russia attack Israel?
Will it cause Armageddon?

Is this the beginning of The END?

Cestbon · Jul 30, 2014

Here my opinion

1. US is the most happy if US and EU go thru sanction Russia. Europe need to get Oil and gas from another source at higher price mostly will be from US. Winner US losser EU. Russia lost small sum they will sell to other like China and India. EU need to think more carefull before sanction.

2. 1000 or 10k is a small life compare to more than half century conflict. Both side Israel and Gaza will lost. Because Israel will never able to kill off all Hama/Muslim. Conflict will never end.

3. There will be always both side supporter, support Israel because Hamas the one who shot 1st. And condemn Isreal because use too must force.

4. Definitely conflict in Gaza will kill more civilian. It will continue untill both side really cannot take the damage anymore. Even at killing ratio 10 to 1 Hamas have nothing to lose.

5. USA already weak. World trade shift to other currency EU$ and China RMB. I will become more weak. Now is BRIC economy.

Unlikely Russia will attack Israel. Russia have nothing to gain to attack Israel.

Poomer · Jul 30, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
1. US and EU's sanctions may hurt and weaken Russia
2. Israel's air and artillery strikes have killed more than 1000 innocent civilians
3. World opinions may be against Israel
4. Violence in Gaza may escalate resulting in more civilian deaths
5. USA is becoming increasingly weak

Will the above make Russia attack Israel?
Will it cause Armageddon?

Is this the beginning of The END?

No mention of the civil war in Iraq and Syria?
Or the Ebola Virus?

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

Cestbon said:
Here my opinion

1. US is the most happy if US and EU go thru sanction Russia. Europe need to get Oil and gas from another source at higher price mostly will be from US. Winner US losser EU. Russia lost small sum they will sell to other like China and India. EU need to think more carefull before sanction.

2. 1000 or 10k is a small life compare to more than half century conflict. Both side Israel and Gaza will lost. Because Israel will never able to kill off all Hama/Muslim. Conflict will never end.

3. There will be always both side supporter, support Israel because Hamas the one who shot 1st. And condemn Isreal because use too must force.

4. Definitely conflict in Gaza will kill more civilian. It will continue untill both side really cannot take the damage anymore. Even at killing ratio 10 to 1 Hamas have nothing to lose.

5. USA already weak. World trade shift to other currency EU$ and China RMB. I will become more weak. Now is BRIC economy.

Unlikely Russia will attack Israel. Russia have nothing to gain to attack Israel.

Good analysis.

1. US's weakness encourages Russia.
2. Russia's annexation of Crimea is significant.
3. How Ukrainne crisis plays out is important
4. Russia may seek to exert its influence in the middle east
5. Russia may want to show its influence to Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran

Will Russia attack Israel? If it does, I believe it will be the beginning of the END

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

Poomer said:
No mention of the civil war in Iraq and Syria?
Or the Ebola Virus?

Ebola will not cause Russia to attack Israel
Iraq and Syria will remotely affect Russia's plan of action

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

Cestbon said:
Here my opinion

1. US is the most happy if US and EU go thru sanction Russia. Europe need to get Oil and gas from another source at higher price mostly will be from US. Winner US losser EU. Russia lost small sum they will sell to other like China and India. EU need to think more carefull before sanction.

2. 1000 or 10k is a small life compare to more than half century conflict. Both side Israel and Gaza will lost. Because Israel will never able to kill off all Hama/Muslim. Conflict will never end.

3. There will be always both side supporter, support Israel because Hamas the one who shot 1st. And condemn Isreal because use too must force.

4. Definitely conflict in Gaza will kill more civilian. It will continue untill both side really cannot take the damage anymore. Even at killing ratio 10 to 1 Hamas have nothing to lose.

5. USA already weak. World trade shift to other currency EU$ and China RMB. I will become more weak. Now is BRIC economy.

Unlikely Russia will attack Israel. Russia have nothing to gain to attack Israel.

USA and EU have severely misjudged Russia. The tougher their sanctions against Russia, the more resolute will Russia be. This will create a dangerous situation and may drive Russia to take greater risks

GramStroker · Jul 30, 2014

Russia has no reason to attack Israel.
Don't forget they have their fair share of problems from Chechen rebels, religion of peace, and sunnis too - just like Hamas.

Cestbon · Jul 30, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
Good analysis.

1. US's weakness encourages Russia.
2. Russia's annexation of Crimea is significant.
3. How Ukrainne crisis plays out is important
4. Russia may seek to exert its influence in the middle east
5. Russia may want to show its influence to Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran

Will Russia attack Israel? If it does, I believe it will be the beginning of the END

Russia hate Ukraine. Because is the most influence state that causing USSR split. And also always blackmail Russia that Ukraine will shut off gas pipeline running thru Ukraine soil. Russia have been waiting for this change Ukraine economy in very bad situation to revenge and take advantage of it.
Ukraine crisis we can see how world leader talk cock only.
NATO/US dare not supply weapon for Ukraine to protect from rebel. And Russia supply weapon to rebel.
US/NATO worry if they supply weapon to Ukraine to fight rebel, then maybe Russia will supply weapon to Syria/Iran/Irag/Lebonan to fight Israel.
Of course when fighting both Russia/US/Nato troop will not involve.
Just like when Russia attack Afganistan US supply weapon.

To my opinion. Ukraine is on it own. No one really will dare to directly involve in the conflict. Ukraine it own people also want the gov change. Their internal citizen already lost will to fight Russia . Instead want to join Russia. Ukraine gov already lost.

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

GramStroker said:
Russia has no reason to attack Israel.
Don't forget they have their fair share of problems from Chechen rebels, religion of peace, and sunnis too - just like Hamas.

Some possible reasons:
1. Show of support for Gaza, Palestinians, Turkey, Iraq, Iran
2. Economic considerations
3. Political reasons
4. Retaliation for US and EU actions
5. Deflect attention
etc

Agoraphobic · Jul 30, 2014

1. Sanctions or no sanctions, Russia can and will get by. They've been getting by without anybody's help.
2. And will kill more yet.
3. Doesn't bother nor affect the Jewish state.
4. What else is new?
5. Will still be the mightiest for some time to come.

Why would Russia attack Israel?
If you live in a war zone, it already is Armageddon.

No. What is the END?

Cheers!

TracyTan866 said:
1. US and EU's sanctions may hurt and weaken Russia
2. Israel's air and artillery strikes have killed more than 1000 innocent civilians
3. World opinions may be against Israel
4. Violence in Gaza may escalate resulting in more civilian deaths
5. USA is becoming increasingly weak

Will the above make Russia attack Israel?
Will it cause Armageddon?

Is this the beginning of The END?

GramStroker · Jul 30, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
Some possible reasons:
1. Show of support for Gaza, Palestinians, Turkey, Iraq, Iran
2. Economic considerations
3. Political reasons
4. Retaliation for US and EU actions
5. Deflect attention
etc

For these reasons, attack a nuclear armed state? And risk all out war with zionists USA?

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

Cestbon said:
Russia hate Ukraine. Because is the most influence state that causing USSR split. And also always blackmail Russia that Ukraine will shut off gas pipeline running thru Ukraine soil. Russia have been waiting for this change Ukraine economy in very bad situation to revenge and take advantage of it.
Ukraine crisis we can see how world leader talk cock only.
NATO/US dare not supply weapon for Ukraine to protect from rebel. And Russia supply weapon to rebel.
US/NATO worry if they supply weapon to Ukraine to fight rebel, then maybe Russia will supply weapon to Syria/Iran/Irag/Lebonan to fight Israel.
Of course when fighting both Russia/US/Nato troop will not involve.
Just like when Russia attack Afganistan US supply weapon.

To my opinion. Ukraine is on it own. No one really will dare to directly involve in the conflict. Ukraine it own people also want the gov change. Their internal citizen already lost will to fight Russia . Instead want to join Russia. Ukraine gov already lost.

Great insights! Russia must prevent Ukraine from leaning towards Western Europe. Russia's action is paying dividends. Obama doesn't want to confront Putin. EU is afraid because of oil Ukraine's PM has fallen. All these have embolden Russia.

The question is will Russia eventually attack Israel?

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

GramStroker said:
For these reasons, attack a nuclear armed state? And risk all out war with zionists USA?

Power and politics are not about logic. If logic and reasons prevail, there wld be no world conflicts nor war.

Who would have reasoned that Bush and Blair would cook up a lie abt saddam having weapons of mass destruction and because of that lie, invaded Iraq and causing much misery and caused many to die?

So I am not ruling out the possibility of Russia attacking Israel.

Do you completely rule it out?

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

Agoraphobic said:
1. Sanctions or no sanctions, Russia can and will get by. They've been getting by without anybody's help.
2. And will kill more yet.
3. Doesn't bother nor affect the Jewish state.
4. What else is new?
5. Will still be the mightiest for some time to come.

Why would Russia attack Israel?
If you live in a war zone, it already is Armageddon.

No. What is the END?

Cheers!

You are right. For now, there is no reason for Russia to attack Israel.

But the conditions are precarious now and anything can happen

The beginning of The END will be when some country like Russia attacks Israel

eatshitndie · Jul 30, 2014

you're delving in manly macho military megalomaniac subjects, which are out of your league. please go back to your romantic cruises, pillow talk, and gynae topics, which you are fond of. thank you.

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

eatshitndie said:
you're delving in manly macho military megalomaniac subjects, which are out of your league. please go back to your romantic cruises, pillow talk, and gynae topics, which you are fond of. thank you.

this is not military. It's world affairs, politics, strategic planning, economics, business, etc.

Have you heard Hillary Clinton views on CNN and her views on Ukraine, Middle East, Benghazi fiasco, etc.

World affairs are not restricted to males :smile:

eatshitndie · Jul 30, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
this is not military. It's world affairs, politics, strategic planning, economics, business, etc.

Have you heard Hillary Clinton views on CNN and her views on Ukraine, Middle East, Benghazi fiasco, etc.

World affairs are not restricted to males

any world affairs handled by estrogen-laden ladies end up in disaster and disarray.

Thick Face Black Heart · Jul 30, 2014

TracyTan866 said:
1. US and EU's sanctions may hurt and weaken Russia
2. Israel's air and artillery strikes have killed more than 1000 innocent civilians
3. World opinions may be against Israel
4. Violence in Gaza may escalate resulting in more civilian deaths
5. USA is becoming increasingly weak

Will the above make Russia attack Israel?
Will it cause Armageddon?

Is this the beginning of The END?

All these world events are just passing phases. Don't worry too much.

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

eatshitndie said:
any world affairs handled by estrogen-laden ladies end up in disaster and disarray.

The world under male leaders now is in disarray and chaos.

The world's problems are unprecedented.

As I said, "Is This The Beginning of The End?"

No thanks to men like Obama, Putin, etc

TracyTan866 · Jul 30, 2014

Thick Face Black Heart said:
All these world events are just passing phases. Don't worry too much.

Thank you for your comforting words.

But the problems the world is facing are unprecedented

We are indeed in perilous times

Is This The Beginning of The END?

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