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M'sian islamic party youth leader: Mh17 was god's punishment for serving alcohol on p

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A youth leader said Malaysia Airlines' disasters were the wrath of Allah for its flight attendants' uniforms (pictured)

A Malaysian youth leader has been slammed after he suggested the MH17 tragedy was God's punishment for the airline serving alcohol on-board.
The leader of the youth off-shoot of the Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party, Ahmad Tarmizi Sulaiman, said the airline had provoked Allah's wrath 'in the bellies of the planes' because it mocked Islamic rule.

'In serving alcohol [which is prohibited by Islam] and the dressing of [MAS flight attendants] which cross the boundaries of Islam,' Mr Sulaiman told independent online newspaper Malaysiakini.

His comments come just six days after Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile over the Ukraine-Russia border.
At the same time, Mr Sulaiman expressed his party's condolences for the victims of the crash and their families.

But he said the party felt that it was time the government and the airline looked at the tragedies plaguing the airline as springing from 'the element of God and his creation', and its failure to fully embrace the teachings of the Koran.
'Flying in a MAS plane does not give passengers the feeling of an airline operated by a country which organises the annual Koran recital competition and in fact, even winning the competition,' Mr Sulaiman said.

But political commentators were quick to hit back at Mr Sulaiman's comments, with some saying they were 'disgraceful'.

Malaysian Chinese Association youth deputy secretary-general Tee Hooi Ling said Mr Sulaiman's remarks were to 'gain cheap publicity from the deaths of 298 people aboard MAS Flight MH17'.

'It is disgraceful that he is insinuating that this tragedy is a punishment from God against MAS for serving alcohol and allowing its crew to wear Malaysia’s traditional costume which he deems as indecent dressing,' she said in a statement.

'Time and time again PAS has always seen women as a scapegoat to be blamed for many crimes, thus causing disrespect for womenfolk and the creation of restrictions against women rights, but to blame a woman’s uniform for what happen to Flight MH17 is pushing things too far.'

- See more at: M'SIAN ISLAMIC PARTY YOUTH LEADER: MH17 WAS GOD'S PUNISHMENT FOR SERVING ALCOHOL ON PLANE | All Singapore Stuff (ASS)
 

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We here like to talk about their choi bu minahs.

Minah actually very attractive look. See one like to fuck one.

Sorry Mat, your minah bery chio got boobs some more, size also big sama young coconut, and juicy.

Pantak lagi nice, big and round, see one like to fuck one from behind ...... hehehe




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A youth leader said Malaysia Airlines' disasters were the wrath of Allah for its flight attendants' uniforms (pictured)

A Malaysian youth leader has been slammed after he suggested the MH17 tragedy was God's punishment for the airline serving alcohol on-board.
The leader of the youth off-shoot of the Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party, Ahmad Tarmizi Sulaiman, said the airline had provoked Allah's wrath 'in the bellies of the planes' because it mocked Islamic rule.

'In serving alcohol [which is prohibited by Islam] and the dressing of [MAS flight attendants] which cross the boundaries of Islam,' Mr Sulaiman told independent online newspaper Malaysiakini.

His comments come just six days after Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile over the Ukraine-Russia border.
At the same time, Mr Sulaiman expressed his party's condolences for the victims of the crash and their families.

But he said the party felt that it was time the government and the airline looked at the tragedies plaguing the airline as springing from 'the element of God and his creation', and its failure to fully embrace the teachings of the Koran.
'Flying in a MAS plane does not give passengers the feeling of an airline operated by a country which organises the annual Koran recital competition and in fact, even winning the competition,' Mr Sulaiman said.

But political commentators were quick to hit back at Mr Sulaiman's comments, with some saying they were 'disgraceful'.

Malaysian Chinese Association youth deputy secretary-general Tee Hooi Ling said Mr Sulaiman's remarks were to 'gain cheap publicity from the deaths of 298 people aboard MAS Flight MH17'.

'It is disgraceful that he is insinuating that this tragedy is a punishment from God against MAS for serving alcohol and allowing its crew to wear Malaysia’s traditional costume which he deems as indecent dressing,' she said in a statement.

'Time and time again PAS has always seen women as a scapegoat to be blamed for many crimes, thus causing disrespect for womenfolk and the creation of restrictions against women rights, but to blame a woman’s uniform for what happen to Flight MH17 is pushing things too far.'

- See more at: M'SIAN ISLAMIC PARTY YOUTH LEADER: MH17 WAS GOD'S PUNISHMENT FOR SERVING ALCOHOL ON PLANE | All Singapore Stuff (ASS)
 

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Stupidity of Islam. That's why Malaysia is doomed to fail because it's a country that believes in stupid ideology.
 

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Seriously????

I thought it is the pilot's pious pursuit of religious perfection by not eating on that day and he can't think well and coordinate well , then fly to the route and challenge the missile.


respiration = eating food + oxygen = energy to do work... Maybe religion is so fucking important that science can be ignored.
 

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3. Engineered obedience training.

Religions are authoritarian hierarchies designed to dominate your free will. They’re power structures that aim to convince you to give away your power for the benefit of those who enjoy dominating people. When you subscribe to a religion, you enroll in a mindless minion training program. Religions don’t market themselves as such, but this is essentially how they operate.

Religions are very effective at turning human beings into sheep. They’re among the most powerful instruments of social conditioning. They operate by eroding your trust in your own intellect, gradually convincing you to put your trust into some external entity, such as a deity, prominent figure, or great book. Of course these instruments are usually controlled by those who administrate the minion training program, but they don’t have to be. Simply by convincing you to give your power away to something outside yourself, religion will condition you to be weaker, more docile, and easier to control. Religions actively promote this weakening process as if it were beneficial, commonly branding it with the word faith. What they’re actually promoting is submission.

Religions strive to fill your head with so much nonsense that your only recourse is to bow your head in submission, often quite literally. Get used to spending a lot of time on your knees because acts of submission such as bowing and kneeling are frequently incorporated into religious practice. Canine obedience training uses similar tactics. Now say, “Yes, Master.”

Have you ever wondered why religious teachings are invariably mysterious, confusing, and internally incongruent? This is no accident by the way — it’s quite intentional.

By putting forth confusing and internally conflicting information, your logical mind (i.e. your neocortex) is overwhelmed. You try in vain to integrate such contradictory beliefs, but it can’t be done. The net effect is that your logical mind disengages because it can’t find a pattern of core truth beneath all the nonsense, so without the help of your neocortex, you devolve to a more primitive (i.e. limbic) mode of thinking. You’re taught that this faith-based approach is a more spiritual and conscious way to live, but in reality it’s precisely the opposite. Getting you to distrust your own cerebral cortex actually makes you dumber and easier to manipulate and control. Karl Marx was right when he said, “Religion is the opiate of the people.”

For example, the Old Testament and the New Testament in the Bible frequently contradict each other with various rules of conduct, yet both are quoted during mass. Church leaders also behave in direct violation of the Church’s teachings, such as by covering up criminal and immoral activities by their own priests. Those who try to mentally process such glaring contradictions as coherent truth invariably suffer for it. A highly conscious person would reject membership in such an organization as patently ridiculous. So-called divine mysteries are engineered to be incomprehensible. You aren’t meant to ever make sense of them since that would defeat the whole purpose. When you finally wake up and realize it’s all B.S., you’ve taken the first step towards freedom from this oppressive system.

The truth is that so-called religious authorities don’t know any more about spirituality than you do. However, they know how to manipulate your fear and uncertainty for their own benefit. How nice of you to let them.

Although the most popular religions are very old, L. Ron Hubbard proved the process can be replicated from scratch in modern times. As long as there are large numbers of people who fear the responsibility of their own power, religions will continue to dominate the landscape of human development.

If you want to talk to God, then communicate directly instead of using third-party intermediaries. Surely God has no need of an interpreter. Don’t fall into the trap of becoming a mindless minion. It’s a mistake to think that turning off your neocortex and practicing mindless “faith” will bring you closer to God. In truth it will only bring you closer to dog.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2008/05/10-reasons-you-should-never-have-a-religion/
 

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Seriously????

I thought it is the pilot's pious pursuit of religious perfection by not eating on that day and he can't think well and coordinate well , then fly to the route and challenge the missile.


respiration = eating food + oxygen = energy to do work... Maybe religion is so fucking important that science can be ignored.

similarly, those who eat grass also have the tendency to think and act likewise
 

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A youth leader said Malaysia Airlines' disasters were the wrath of Allah for its flight attendants' uniforms (pictured)

Oh i have to say this again:

Tell Allah to go and fuck himself
 

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7. Idiocy or hypocrisy – pick one.

When you subscribe to an established religion, you have only two options. You can become an idiot, or you can become a hypocrite. If you’ve already chosen the former, I’ll explain why, and I’ll use small words so that you’re sure to understand.

First, there’s the idiocy route. You can willingly swallow all of the contrived, man-made drivel that’s fed to you. Accept that the earth is only 10,000 years old. Believe stories about dead bodies coming back to life. Learn about various deities and such. Put your trust in someone who thinks they know what they’re talking about. Eat your dogma. Good boy!

Congratulations! You’re a moron believer. You’ll be saved, enlightened, and greeted with tremendous fanfare when you die… unless of course all the stuff you were taught turns out not to be true. Nah… if the guy in the robe says it’s true, it must be true. Ya gotta have faith, right?

Next, we have the hypocrisy option. In this case your neocortex is strong enough to identify various bits of utter nonsense in the religious teachings that others are trying to ram down your throat. You have a working B.S. detector, but it’s slightly damaged. You’re smart enough to realize that earth is probably a lot older than 10,000 years and that pre-marital (or non-marital) sex is a lot of fun, but some B.S. still gets through. You don’t swallow all the bull, but you still identify yourself as a follower of a particular religion, most likely because you were raised in it and never actually chose it to begin with.

To you it’s just a casual pursuit. You’re certainly not a die-hard fundamentalist, but you figure that if you drink the wine and chew the wafer now and then, it’s good enough to get you a free ride into a half-decent afterlife. You belong to the pro-God club. Surely there’s safety in numbers. Two people can’t be wrong… although 4-1/2 billion supposedly can.

In this case you become an apologist for your own religion. You don’t want to be identified with the extreme fanatics, nor do you want to be associated with the non-believers. You figure you can straddle both sides. On earth you’ll basically live as a non-practitioner (or a very sloppy and inconsistent practitioner), but when you eventually die, you’ve still got the membership card to show God.

Do you realize how deluded you are?

Perhaps if you have to throw out so much of the nonsense to make your chosen belief system palatable, you shouldn’t be drinking the Kool Aid in the first place. Free yourself from the mental baggage, stop looking to others for permission to live, and start thinking on your own. If your God exists, he’s smart enough to see through your fake ID.

From time to time, some of my readers take a stab at converting me to their religion. Most of them come across as total loons, but I can at least respect their consistency. I’ve no idea why they bother to read my site (which is about raising, not lowering, consciousness). Perhaps some of them are getting ready to convert from fundamentalism to common sense.

You’d think I’d be quite a prize for any serious religion. With 2.4 million monthly readers, that’s a lot of people I could potentially enslave convert, not to mention how much I could fill the Church coffers by soliciting indulgences donations on their behalf. Henceforth I expect a much better conversion effort. If you won’t do it for the money, then do it for the souls. You can’t let so many of us go to hell without trying in earnest to save us, can you?

Just keep those conversion emails below 10,000 words if possible, with no more than 9,000 of them quoted from your favorite great book.


the idiocy route or the hypocrisy route,
Oh yeah, then it lead to the missile route....
 
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Seriously????

I thought it is the pilot's pious pursuit of religious perfection by not eating on that day and he can't think well and coordinate well , then fly to the route and challenge the missile.


respiration = eating food + oxygen = energy to do work... Maybe religion is so fucking important that science can be ignored.

Tonychat, Malaysia is your country. There is no point trying to distance yourself from your country based on race and religion.

Whether they are Malay/Muslims and you are Chinese is not important. The fact is that you and your family are Malaysians!! 马来西亚人!

You are the same as all Malaysians, regardless of race and religion!! Sama sama!!


 

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one more :

10. Faith is fear.

Religion is the systematic marketing of fear.

Blessed are the poor (donate heavily). Blessed are the meek (obey). Blessed are the humble (don’t question authority). Blessed are the hungry (make us rich while you starve). Blessed are the merciful (if you catch us doing something wrong, let it go). Blessed are the pure of heart (switch off your brain). Blessed are the timid, the cowardly, the fearful. Blessed are those who give us their power and become our slaves. Muahahaha!

That’s the kind of nonsense religion pushes on people. They train you to turn your back on courage, strength, and conscious living. This is stupidity, not divinity.

Religion will teach you to fear being different, to fear standing up for yourself, and to fear being an independent thinker. It will erode your self-trust by explaining why you’re unable to successfully manage life on your own terms: You are unworthy. You’re a sinner. You’re unclean. You belong to a lesser caste. You are not enlightened. Of course the solution is always the same — submit to the will of an external authority. Believe that you’re inadequate. Give away your power. Follow their rules and procedures. Live in fear for the rest of your life, and hope it will all turn out okay in the end.

When you practice faith instead of conscious living, you live under a cloak of fear. Eventually that cloak becomes so habitual you forget it’s even there. It’s very sad when you reach the point where you can’t even remember what it feels like to wield creative freedom over your own life, independent of what you’ve been conditioned to believe.

Faith is the coward’s substitute for courage. It’s also really good marketing if you’re the one who controls the faith. If you’re afraid or unwilling to assume total responsibility for your life, you’re a perfect match for religion.

Fear in one part of your life invariably spreads to all other parts — you can’t compartmentalize it. If you find yourself frustrated because you’re too afraid to follow your dreams, to talk to members of the opposite sex, to speak up for yourself, etc., then a good place to start is to rid your life of all religious nonsense. Don’t let fear get a foothold in your consciousness.

Stop trying to comfort yourself by swallowing religious rubbish. If you really need something to believe in, then believe in your own potential. Put your trust in your own intellect. Stop giving away your power.

Dump the safety-in-numbers silliness. Just because a lot of people believe stupid stuff doesn’t mean it isn’t stupid. It just means that stupidity is popular on this planet. When people are in a state of fear, they’ll swallow just about anything to comfort themselves, including the bastion of stupidity known as religion.
 

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Dump the safety-in-numbers silliness. Just because a lot of people believe stupid stuff doesn’t mean it isn’t stupid. It just means that stupidity is popular on this planet.

i have another way of saying it:

Just because a lot of people is fucking ball-less, it doesn't mean it is alright to be ball-less. It just means that ball-lessness is popular in sinkieland.
 
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