Which Rubber Is The Best - how to choose a good and suitable rubber

Froggy · Jul 9, 2014

My rubber had done 36,000km so far and I am planning to change them. How does one choose a good tyre? Currently this Dunlop comes with the car and I am not so happy with it as during rain and wet condition I tend to have this "don't feel safe and no confidence while cornering" feeling. I guess it slipped a few times when condition was wet.

I have been using Michelin PS2 and Primacy 2 previously and I have to say I like them, now Michelin has PS3 and Primacy 3. However since I am planning to change I thought I like to hear from some of your views. My concern to choose a new type is good road holding in wet condition (its raining season now and most of you know how its like here when it rains) and the other thing I am looking for is quietness. I know from past experience good road holding will be noise while quiet rubber are not good in wet condition as there is a tradeoff. So far I find PS2 is very well balanced and I liked it but if there is another choice I will go for it.

One thing for sure I have no idea now to read the specs:

Michelin PS3 - http://www.michelin.co.th/then/Products-Services/Car-SUV-LT/passenger_car/PILOT_SPORT_3.html

Michelin Primacy 3 - http://www.michelin.co.th/then/Products-Services/Car-SUV-LT/passenger_car/PRIMACY_3_ST.html

KNNBGCB · Jul 9, 2014

No horse run. But raw still the best. Like eating sashimi :biggrin:

krafty · Jul 9, 2014

here is a list of rubber that you can choose from:

http://www.durex.com/en-lat/products/condoms/pages/condomhomepage.aspx

:biggrin:

Froggy · Jul 9, 2014

This is a serious thread. Its raining season now and its time to change to a nice set of rubber. Please be serious!

(can upz my points later if you had benefited from this thread)

KNNBNCB · Jul 9, 2014

KNN, was just going to post something like this but you beat me to it by a cockhair's breadth.

KNNBGCB said:
No horse run. But raw still the best. Like eating sashimi

Leongsam · Jul 9, 2014

joetys said:
This is a serious thread. Its raining season now and its time to change to a nice set of rubber. Please be serious!

(can upz my points later if you had benefited from this thread)

Joe, when it comes to rubber, it is always a compromise. If you want wet grip, you'll sacrifice in other areas eg road noise, longevity and dry handling.

erection2015 · Jul 9, 2014

so what would be the happy medium?.....i'm interested too. Cant compromise on tyres and safety.

Leongsam said:
Joe, when it comes to rubber, it is always a compromise. If you want wet grip, you'll sacrifice in other areas eg road noise, longevity and dry handling.

greenies · Jul 9, 2014

My first impression of rubber comes with Pappies' rubber skins and faces.

Froggy · Jul 9, 2014

Leongsam said:
Joe, when it comes to rubber, it is always a compromise. If you want wet grip, you'll sacrifice in other areas eg road noise, longevity and dry handling.

Thank you boss. Any particular brand and model you like and the reason? The car is a quiet sedan.

Leongsam · Jul 9, 2014

erection2011 said:
so what would be the happy medium?.....i'm interested too. Cant compromise on tyres and safety.

Based on my experience, the best wet tyre that I have used is the Dunlop SP Sport. The wet weather grip was fantastic.

http://www.dunlop.eu/dunlop_euen/tires/passenger/sp-fastresponse/

However, they lasted only about 25,000 km before the tread was no longer effective.

The worst wet weather tyre is ANY tyre that has less than 50% of tread left so the best advice for Joe is to install NEW tyres in wet weather regardless of what make or model. The tread depth is at its maximum and water displacement at speed is therefore at its most effective.

KNNBGCB · Jul 9, 2014

joetys said:
This is a serious thread. Its raining season now and its time to change to a nice set of rubber. Please be serious!

(can upz my points later if you had benefited from this thread)

This is serious. Raw means war! If never use rubber, can result in STDs or unwanted pregnancies. Then go home spread to innocent family members. My rubber is more important than your rubber. If your rubber fails, at most lang gar :biggrin:

Leongsam · Jul 9, 2014

joetys said:
Thank you boss. Any particular brand and model you like and the reason? The car is a quiet sedan.

Answered above.

Froggy · Jul 9, 2014

Leongsam said:
Based on my experience, the best wet tyre that I have used is the Dunlop SP Sport. The wet weather grip was fantastic.

http://www.dunlop.eu/dunlop_euen/tires/passenger/sp-fastresponse/

However, they lasted only about 25,000 km before the tread was no longer effective.

The worst wet weather tyre is ANY tyre that has less than 50% of tread left so the best advice for Joe is to install NEW tyres in wet weather regardless of what make or model. The tread depth is at its maximum and water displacement at speed is therefore at its most effective.

Thank you and that's a very unbiased comment above, I like it.

KNNBGCB · Jul 9, 2014

joetys said:
Thank you and that's a very unbiased comment above, I like it.

You should not sell screws, should sell shoe polish, sure make it big :biggrin:

Leongsam · Jul 9, 2014

joetys said:
Thank you and that's a very unbiased comment above, I like it.

As the host, it is my responsibility to make the most well informed and balanced comments in this forum on all subjects.

When it comes to politics, my lack of bias is legendary. I stick to the facts and make level headed judgements and avoid allowing emotions to cloud my responses.

Froggy · Jul 9, 2014

KNNBGCB said:
You should not sell screws, should sell shoe polish, sure make it big

It's soccer season so this is for you

jubilee1919 · Jul 9, 2014

I used Michelin and they are good all-weather tyres.

hornylee · Jul 9, 2014

This post will soon be inducted into the hall of fame in the 'not blue pill ' thread.

Leongsam said:
As the host, it is my responsibility to make the most well informed and balanced comments in this forum on all subjects.

When it comes to politics, my lack of bias is legendary. I stick to the facts and make level headed judgements and avoid allowing emotions to cloud my responses.

NoOnEsAwMe · Jul 9, 2014

my opinion

Worst - dunlop , feels less grip in wet weather

Best - michelin , best grip but a little bit noisy

Personal preferred - continental & hankook , not so noisy and decent grip

Leongsam · Jul 9, 2014

NoOnEsAwMe said:
my opinion

Worst - dunlop , feels less grip in wet weather

Best - michelin , best grip but a little bit noisy

Personal preferred - continental & hankook , not so noisy and decent grip

It has nothing to do with tyre brands. It's about the tread pattern and the compound.

You need to be more specific. Which Michelin tyre model are you referring to?

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